Hua Guofang

Wanted to get me a spot on epic page too. Always loved the letters and flow of ACHE, curse myself that I never made it my word to start off with. Achy Breaky Stone by Walid Jumblat's conviction, on Flickr

It would suck on the level of WWII. And it's highly unlikely. However when the consequences are so high and there is a distinct possibility you can't go ignoring the concept. If this is a highly sophisticated hijack, as opposed to a looney pilot who wanted to see the Indian ocean up close....., or the most bizarre mechanical ever, then you have to really reconsider what is or isn't likely. All of a sudden catastrophic attack by civilian aircraft becomes much more probable than it did two weeks back.

Worked out why my left shoulder has a horrid clunk in the anterior rotator cuff. Went for a ride, pretty rough and technical uphill climb with lots of rocky switch backs and felt my shoulder hate it right away. My right hand goes numb after a while when I'm pedaling hard on trails, it's either bad positioning or carpal tunnel syndrome. Most likely the latter given the history of my wrist. This has made me focus much more of my weight on to my left arm when riding. Not really sure if I have bad positioning on the bike or what the story is but I'm glad to have isolated the cause of the problem as it was previously just getting worse and I had no idea why.

My preferred scenario is somewhat similar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1C-cOJ9_Hs

Ha, I Was thinking how I could relate this disagreement to DAO arguments myself! lol!! I was going to go for enlarged red type,

Did you bring those rocks back? Nope, all you've got is some one telling you that they are from the moon, that's not proof. The only fact you have is that some one is telling you something. Mate, bottom line is that you can have strong confidence in some things without having absolute proof and knowing all the facts. I'm told that TV signals bounce off satellites in space. Do I have proof of that, do I know it for a fact to be true? No I don't, I have pictures on a box and people in good position telling me about satellites and shit. Is that enough inconclusive evidence for me to believe in satellites? Yep.

Nope, I'm acting like it's a hijacking because that's what the information suggests. The reason they say it's deliberate is because the aircraft conducted a complex yet text book turn. For the aircraft to have been out of control and act in that way is such a ludicrously improbable event. To not draw conclusions from this evidence would be simply mind boggling. Alex Jones type of guesses? C'mon man, really. Have you got proof that the moon isn't made out of cheese?

Absolutely. Just because a hijack has occurred doesn't always mean you will have some one claim it. As Decy says, it all depends on the motivation involved. I doubt very much that some one would carry out such a sophisticated operation to simply ransom some people. The govts won't pay anyway, they only really pay when they can deny they negotiated and paid off crims/terrorists. There's also much easier ways to get hostages, like a bus. These people wanted the aircraft, or the pilot lost the plot like that Ethiopian pilot that recently flew to Switzerland. Actually, would be very interesting to see if there are any similarities there. That may have been a dry or aborted run. The manifest has been out there for days and no one has identified people of particular interest. Wonder if there was something interesting in the cargo.

No, that's completely incorrect. They are saying that it changed direction deliberately, which is very obviously an important distinction. They are also saying that coms were dropped deliberately. They are also saying that it flew for a number of hours after coms were lost. Not sure why you're ignoring those explicit points. If you wait for 100% proof on many things you end up coming last. The common analogy given is "two cavemen are walking through long grass when they hear a noise that sounds like a lion stalking them. One caveman runs whilst the other caveman says, well, it sounds like a lion but I can't be completely sure until I see it. Which caveman do you think lived to pass on his genes?". A lot of the time you never actually get total proof. Can you actually prove that the Chinese have satellites in orbit? I know I can't but I also know that I'd be an idiot if I didn't believe they do.

It's not a guess at all. You're suggesting that you must have 100% confirmation/proof of something before you can consider one outcome more likely than another. But that's not the way it works. 99% of the time you do not get conclusive evidence either way. You have to work out what the evidence you have suggests is more likely and make working assumptions. A guess is a wild stab and being right is a matter of chance only. What we have that is new today are the conclusions being made below From the statement: Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the East coast of peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft’s transponder was switched off. From this point onwards, the Royal Malaysian Air Force primary radar showed that an aircraft which was believed – but not confirmed – to be MH370 did indeed turn back. It then flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane. Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and the Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur. According to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11AM Malaysian time on Saturday 8th March. All we had yesterday was jumbled contradictory shit from the Malaysian govt and leaks, rumour and speculation from other sources. Today we have confirmation and "high degree certainty" which is int speak for "impossible to ever confirm but we would bet our wives on it". That's a big shift from yesterday and to think that you've got a competent pilot switching coms off and flying off eslewhere in a deliberate manner I can't understand why you would think that it has "simply crashed somewhere". It may have crashed but if it has it will have been a deliberate action by whoever was flying the aircraft and it will be nowhere near where the plane was supposed to be. That's a hijack in anyone's language. I was speaking figuratively about internet cool guy points. I don't give a shit about props.

Edited my post after you posted that. Wow, I've spent years laughing at and arguing against the chemtrail, Truther, New World Order, Bilderberg, Zionist conspiracy fruit cakes on this site and still my credentials are in doubt.

Ha, did you just peg me as a "conspiracy people"? They did more than confirm what was already known. They are now saying that the communications were deliberately switched off. That was not already known. And that in and of itself would strongly suggest that there was no mechanical but a planned action. They are completely ceasing the search in the SCS, that was not previously known. They fully accept that the flight had diverted to west of Malaysia, that was under discussion but not confirmed. That has now been confirmed, another aspect not previously known. etc. etc. Things now known - - coms deliberately dropped - flight path altered deliberately - aircraft flies low over the Malay peninsula - aircraft flies through waypoints on established air corridors - aircraft flies for up to 5 hours At this point the equation flips and the easiest and most simple explanation is no longer that the plane crashed in to the ocean. So much here points towards deliberate actions by an experienced pilot. I'll easily bet 1000 internet cool guy points that the flight was highjacked.

And there we go, Flight MH370 is back on the front page again. The Malaysian PM just held a press conference where he said that it has now been fully corroborated that the coms devices were deliberately switched off, the plane did divert its course over the Malaysian peninsula, has continued on flying for up to 5 hours since the coms were dropped and it was flying along known flight corridors in a way that indicates a person with knowledge of aircraft piloting and navigation was in control. With that now confirmed (as much as things can be firm) it's very difficult to imagine a scenario where the pilots were not complicit. Either that or they were under duress of person(s) who had a very strong understanding of commercial and military aircraft and capabilities and also had a very well prepared and organised plan in place. Somalia has to be pretty high on the list here. I would imagine that there are vast areas of East Africa that are not under radar coverage. I reckon the airspace and lower atmosphere over Somalia would be a very, very busy place right now.

The focus now will be "what next". No responsibility has been claimed or demands been made for the lives of the people on board. That indicates that acquisition of the aircraft was just the first phase of the operation. The assumption has to be made that the aircraft will be used in an attack or as a method of infiltration for an attack. The game is to pre-empt the next move and get in front of the hijackers' decision making loop. However to do that their play needs to be identified. On that, I have NFI. The only thing I can think of at the moment is the pilots will be the main suspects as the coms were dropped immediately after they said "goodnight" for the handover to Vietnam. They may have already been under duress at that point but it seems unlikely given their known demeaner and the behaviour of the aircraft itself. Secondly, deeper investigation of the passengers, flight training, links to organisations and state intelligence and military groups will also be looked for. Third is the direction of the aircraft and range given the likely amount of fuel left and all possible airfields that could take that kind of aircraft. Fourth, they may look at the possiblity of a controlled ditch at sea and for this they will look for evidence of suspicious movements of boats in the region. Huge amount of ifs and from open source there's not a huge amount that can narrow things down. However security in national capitals and key military facilities will have to be heightened on the assumption that there is an aircraft with anything up to a stolen nuclear weapon aboard preparing to strike a target. The high level of competency and planning in this hijack indicates that the perpetrators may well have had state - or elements of a state - backing them. Or it was aliens. Given that no responsibility has been taken or demands made I think it's safe to assume that

And there it is - Honestly, when the way the aircraft was redirrected came out a few days back and then two days ago that it had flown for another 4-5 hours it was becoming pretty clear that there was planning behind this. Then when you add the way the coms were dropped (timing, location, etc.) AND that waypoints were navigated it's irresponsible to treat this as anything else other than a hijack. Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: investigators say jet was hijacked Date March 15, 2014 - 3:50PM A Royal Malaysian Air Force Navigator captain Izam Fareq Hassan ® talks with his team members onboard a Malaysian Air Force CN235 aircraft during a search and rescue (SAR) operation to find the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 plane over the Strait of Malacca on March 14, 2014. Malaysia confirmed on March 14 that the search for a missing Malaysia Airlines plane had been expanded into the Indian Ocean, but declined to comment on US reports that the jet had flown for hours after going missing. AFP PHOTO / MOHD RASFAN Click to play video MH370 search goes west US officials helping with the search for Flight MH370 shift focus to the Indian Ocean region but Malaysia Airlines says likelihood of finding missing plane there is very low. A Malaysian government official says investigators have concluded the missing Malaysia Airlines plane was hijacked, according to press agency Associated Press. Sky News reports the official said no motive had been established and it was not yet clear where the plane was taken, but he said hijacking was "conclusive". The official said someone with significant flying experience hijacked the jet, turned off communications and steered it off-course, according to Sky News. Advertisement Canadian media outlet Global News reported the official was involved in the investigation into the crash, but spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to brief the press. Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is expected to hold a press conference at 4.30pm AEDT. MORE TO COME

Yeah, your O & M has a swing on it but the B is rigid, screws with your flow. But it's moving in the right direction so just start pumping out the letters. Don't only stick to those ones either, play around with other odd words. And pay attention to what MEK said in trying every different lean, swing, balance, etc. of the letter. Extend this bit, drop that part a little, bend that one, etc. Most of it will look silly but you have to rule out the mistakes to help you identify the good shit. Sometimes when you're mindlessly doodling you stumble on designs that you couldn't have managed when you're trying hard. Use your left hand, cover one eye, only look at the page after you've drawn each stroke, etc. Sometimes letting go of control like this can help you break out of mindsets that constrain you (like the mindset you had about Z's recently). I see you just writing the same letters over and over again, completely change what you're doing in terms of shape and flow every week to force yourself to practice and stay out of ruts.

Fucking lol @ Castles and Crooks. I think you've cracked it, Inj!! I Think this is a bit of a stretch. It's very difficult to imagine that an aircraft like that can ditch in the ocean and not break up. I say that because if it was going to ditch due to mech failure then you'd expect that to have happened south of Vietnam and that means the plane would have been coming down from 38,000 feet. The speed of impact would be massive and the aircraft would shatter in to many pieces. There would have been debris everywhere. It is all but accpeted that the plane made a turn after the initial coms drop. This was not some wild turn of an aircraft out of control but a text book turn that an inexperienced pilot is unlikely to have pulled off. It is also likely to have flown deliberately through waypoints again indicating an experienced pilot on a pre-planned flight path. Now, the plane may have been ditched in the sea similar to the way the aircraft was ditched in the Hudson a few years back, when everyone survived the emergency landing. However, that would have given the passengers a lot of time to exit the craft with floatation devices and you would have other floating stuff like luggage, clothing, etc. make its way out of the craft as well. Likely something would have been noted by now if this was the case, depending on where it went down. If the plane was emergency landed in the middle of the Indian Ocean, where it may not have been sptted yet, then one must ask how it made it there. It's hard to say that everything leading up to the point of impact was coincidence, given the timing of the coms drop, the way the aircraft turned after that, etc. And if it was emergecny landed that indicates the pilot was in full control and you must ask why the hell he took the plane there. If it ditched out of control we would expect to see a pretty significant debris field show up at some point soon.

Flight 'disappears' at the exact point it hands over to the Vietnamese. Aircraft seems to have taken a turn only an experienced pilot could make and headed in a completely different direction, flying in a manner making tracking much more difficult. Aircraft is recorded in the air for 4-5 hours after it disappeared, flight is thought to have passed through a number of waypoints suggesting conscious and planned navigation by an experienced pilot. No wreckage has been found. Remove any number of these points and you've still got too much for coincidence. The manifest is out there as well and no one has been able to identify any person of particular interest. The cargo manifest hasn't identified any thing of obvious interest either. Working theory has to be that plane has landed in an area with weak radar coverage or where it could slip through without raising too much interest. Plane will be used for secondary purpose, passengers are dead or will be used for bargaining or protection. I don't have any more info than you cats but I'm confident this is the direction we're heading now.

Seems the world has already gotten board and is moving on from the missing aircraft. Won't be long and everyone will be right back on this again. Aircraft was very competently hijacked.

Doodling in my lecture pad and figured I'd just colour and enter it.

Isn't Crooks and Castles some kind of cheesy clothing line?

also note how the vertical bar of MEK's B was more similar in width to the rest of the B, the M and so on. That's what I was saying a few posts back, you need to get your letters complete before you get in to bells and whistles as you have been.

Probably not really the taste of most here but this has been my repeat song for the day - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1C-cOJ9_Hs

One now, another later.

I still haven't picked up on who Drue is nowadays. Gots them brane problums.