alfred Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 For all you non londoners the oyster card is a new card for travel in london.you simply charge it up with money at many convenient places and you can travel 'hassle' free on buses and the underground. The advantages are that you dont even have to take it out of your bag you just put it near the ticket barrier and it should open....WOW!!!! Also you dont have to spend a few minutes waiting in ques so that your not a second late to your precious fuking job However, when you buy it you have to give your name and address.... for all of you mugs thinking 'so what?' well I tell you what... This now means that you can be traced anytime you enter or leave the underground and they can find you on camera when they need to have visual evidence of putting you in the place at a certain time. If your still thinking so what then I'll tell you what...What if the police suspect you of doing something and they just need to prove that you were in the area at the time the crime happened? Now they can.And the oyster card will be taken as hard evidence cause computers dont make mistakes do they? But what if.......... I steal your card and leave it at the scene of a crime?? You may say well the'll look at the cameras and see that it's not me...yeah? if you've ever seen the quality of most camera footage, half the time people all look alike......So there...all you tiket buyers beware cause in 10,20,30 years this scheme will probably apply to shopping, clothing, children and any other controlling aspect of our lives. Oh yeah and for anyone that thinks im talking shit there already exists software for cctv that is being tested NOW on the underground which picks up on suspicious body language....This means that looking at too many trains as they go by, looking around you too much, nervousness in general are all things that the system highlights and brings you to the attention of the operator. Rinse the system while you can cause soon the octopus will tighten it's grip still tighter...London=Mordor :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Oh yeah and for anyone that thinks im talking shit there already exists software for cctv that is being tested NOW on the underground which picks up on suspicious body language....This means that looking at too many trains as they go by, looking around you too much, nervousness in general are all things that the system highlights and brings you to the attention of the operator. yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest de la cruz Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 OYSTERMAN i was filming some post xmas damage and some old cunt flashed one of them at me saying i werent alowed to be filming on the underground. i believed him at first thinkin he was LU, then dissed that fool coz i realised he werent even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
type R Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 because this thread isnt stupid...:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigadondappa Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 i think that the system needs to be overturned by rude buoy ghetto kidz with axes and gunz!! :king: :king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se_FOUR Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 that would be greeeeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrib139 Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 mob rule :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aowltpaowltp Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 la la la Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beestur. Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Originally posted by se_FOUR that would be greeeeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter N0rth Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 AT FIRST I WAS TURNED OFF BY THE OUTSTANDING LACK OF PHOTOGRAPHS. IMMEDIATLEY AFTER THIS, I WAS DISCUSTED TO READ YOUR A EUROPEAN. (KIDDING) NAH BUT HONESTLY, YOU SUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaterzoot Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 just dont buy the card....isnt it optional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred Posted September 25, 2003 Author Share Posted September 25, 2003 I think maybe you Americans that dont understand what this technology will mean for the human race and it's freedom should suck a shotgun. why dont you just fuk off bak to fantasy world america where europe is one country and george bush tells the truth and is not a murderer.... FUK YOU :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogie hands Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Originally posted by alfred I think maybe you Americans that dont understand what this technology will mean for the human race and it's freedom should suck a shotgun. why dont you just fuk off bak to fantasy world america where europe is one country and george bush tells the truth and is not a murderer.... FUK YOU :lol: :lol: :lol: my god...that is so poignant.... believe me guys....the british arent as retarded as they seem on this message board.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamaciaMotel Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 just leave the card at home! i hate england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reach.4 Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Originally posted by peter N0rth I WAS DISCUSTED TO READ YOUR A EUROPEAN. :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedSteel Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 to much talking, not enough posting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canibalism Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 or maybe your just way too fucking paranoid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang'eds! Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Originally posted by JamaciaMotel just leave the card at home! i hate england ENGLAND HATES YOU BITCH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Trotter Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Just tell me where I can get a bootleg card. Anyone know if the 'two year old travel card' scam still works? I had one weekly travel card from March 2000 that worked from March 2002 all the way to 31st December 2002, but then suddenly stopped working. And now none of my old 2001 cards I collected do anything. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrib139 Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 ok. heres one for yers.... go to one of them shitty newsagents which doesnt have a machine for printing travelcards.... they stamp the date on instead..so... rob a pack of blank cards... and stamp the dates on yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 naa I dont think you can get a bootleg card but I know old school writers did the travel card thing by robbing a station one night. I used to get travel cards (printed on machines) and scratch the numbers off with a pin and pencil it in, then you crease the card up a bit and LT's usually let me through thinking it was a creased magnetic strip.I had to run a few times once I had to duss from lancaster gate all the way up the stair case an over the barriers with TI's behind me. Now i can do it on photoshop, print it out myself and stick it to the front of an old card but just be careful cause you can get done for fraud for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedSteel Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 this post needs to me moved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Originally posted by alfred naa I dont think you can get a bootleg card but I know old school writers did the travel card thing by robbing a station one night. I used to get travel cards (printed on machines) and scratch the numbers off with a pin and pencil it in, then you crease the card up a bit and LT's usually let me through thinking it was a creased magnetic strip.I had to run a few times once I had to duss from lancaster gate all the way up the stair case an over the barriers with TI's behind me. Now i can do it on photoshop, print it out myself and stick it to the front of an old card but just be careful cause you can get done for fraud for this. Did you know that whenever you get a "Seek Assistance", a number flashes up somewhere on the side of the ticket barrier, so that the LU staff can tell why your ticket isn't working? I can't remember where I saw it, but there is a list of all the numbers and what they signify. So, if you are going to blag a "damaged magnetic strip", make sure that it really IS damaged, otherwise you might get a "travel card out of date" error displayed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Originally posted by freeque Did you know that whenever you get a "Seek Assistance", a number flashes up somewhere on the side of the ticket barrier, so that the LU staff can tell why your ticket isn't working? I can't remember where I saw it, but there is a list of all the numbers and what they signify. So, if you are going to blag a "damaged magnetic strip", make sure that it really IS damaged, otherwise you might get a "travel card out of date" error displayed! Here's something I found on a website.... "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@demon.net> Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:27:24 +0100 Actually, the risk here is in misunderstanding the system. The system as a whole (not just the automated gate) worked exactly as designed. The ticketing gates have 40 or 50 heuristics for detecting problems and fraud. If the gate is unhappy with the ticket presented, it displays the message "Seek Assistance" and a code number that the staff can use to determine what the problem is. The staff member at the barrier line can apply much more intelligence to the situation than a machine can. In particular, if you talk to railway staff you'll discover that they soon acquire a "sixth sense" of when people are trying to fiddle and when they are being honest. There are also various "trick" questions they can ask. Mr Roberts was caught by the "in-out-in" detector. This applies *at a station*. It is quite possible to exit at a *different* station before the timer (15 minutes, I think) expires, because this detector will not then apply. >It could be even worse; say there's a fire and you need to get out and the >station is not staffed. The barrier line *MUST* be staffed at all times. If the member of staff has to leave for some reason, he or she *MUST* deactivate the system, which opens all the gates. This is a Health and Safety issue, and LU would be fined heavily if caught breaking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 A fucking hilarious "unofficial" guide to the tube: Tube Guide Here's some extracts... Penalty Fines If you don't have the exact ticket for your journey you will be fined £10 on the spot. It doesn't matter if all the machines at the unmanned station you started out from are broken, it doesn't matter that you didn't realise that Tooting Bec is in Zone Two and not Zone One, you either have to travel back to where your ticket is valid, go to the surface, buy another ticket and return or pay £10, even if the difference in fare is actually about 50p. Do not imagine that if you point out you have the wrong ticket and go to the excess fare box at your destination station that they will let you pay the difference. They won't. Avoiding Nutters on the Tube The tube network is full of nutters. They climb on and rant at the top of their voice about religion or beer or about women that they hate. They always shout. They often smell. And they always sit next to you. Here's a foolproof method of avoiding them: Wear your sunglasses on the underground. This means you can look at everyone else without them seeing you and you can see nutters coming. Listen to a Walkman, but not too loud in case they come at you from behind. Every now and again, sing along very quietly to the music or mouth the words to the song. The result is that you will never have to put up with nutters, or anyone else. I guess the moral of the story is that if you can't beat them, join them, especially as it has been pointed out that a sunglass-wearing, Walkman-dirging person is most people's generic description of "the Underground nutter". Ye Olde Tube Gayme: Ye Undergrounde Tyckett Scamme This is now an unworkable scam because of the £10 Penalty Fare but what the hell....... Say you wanted to travel into London on a Friday and back on a Saturday. You couldn't buy a travelcard and had to buy 2 expensive single tickets. Unless... you didn't buy a ticket, got to your destination, told the inspector in the little box that you needed to get a travelcard but couldn't buy one because ~insert favorite excuse here~. Now, the man in the box couldn't issue returns or travelcards but was reasonable so would charge you the difference in price between a single and a travelcard. This was sometimes as little as 40p. You would be told to buy another single when you needed to get back. Of course you wern't going back until the next day and would repeat the same scam. However, as well as the £10 fine, the Weekend Travelcard has also helped with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 You can call me "Sherlock". I finally tracked down the website, if anyone is interested! http://www.faqs.org/faqs/uk/transport-lond.../section-6.html I'll copy and paste the contents below for the lazy ones: You know when you put a ticket through a barrier on the Underground and "Seek Assistance" comes up on the display. Well, if you look on the left- hand side of the display unit when that happens, you'll see a two- digit code which the member of staff uses to work out what's wrong with your ticket. Note: On the newer gates, the code is displayed on the main barrier head and can, afaik, be seen from either side just by looking underneath the "Seek Assistance". This also applies to the Mark III and Mark IV gates but not, for some reason, to the far-left set of Mark IV gates (the Prestige ones). And now, here's the complete list of codes and their meanings, courtesy of an LUL employee who wishes to remain anonymous. 00 - Valid Ticket 01 - UTS Gate Fault (Invalid Tables) 02 - Wrong Type/Direction of use for this type of ticket 03 - BR only - no LUL validity 04 - UTS Gate Fault (Check Table Error) 05 - Technician signed onto machine 06 - Test Ticket 07 - Code Unreadable (Usually when ticket is upside down) 08 - Recoding Error 09 - Ticket Damaged 10 - Carnet Validated (Carnet Validator Only) 11 - Out of Date 12 - Not Valid Now (e.g.. OPTC before 0930, Freedom pass before 0900) 13 - Additional Fare Payable 14 - Not Valid, and is not excessable 15 - No onward validity 16 - Pass at Invalid station 17 - Excess/platform ticket at wrong station 18 - Station Permit at wrong station 19 - Start Date in future (20 - Spare) 21 - Ticket already used for entry 22 - Ticket already used for exit 23 - Carnet not validated on entry (24-30 - Spare) 31 - Invalid From OSI 32 - Invalid Into OSI 33 - Illogical Interchange through gates [1] (34-40 - Spare) 41 - Ticket used three times in quick succession at same station (entry-exit-entry or exit-entry-exit or purchase-entry-exit) 42 - Double use in one direction (43-50 - Spare) 51 - Already used for 1 journey (single) or 2 journeys (return) 52 - Pass Reported Lost or Stolen [2] 53 - Permit Reported Lost or Stolen [2] 54 - Possible Dumbbell (55-60 - Spare) 61 - Too long spent making interchange 62 - Too long spent on journey (carnets only) 63 - Too long on platform (platform tickets only) 64 - Too long on excess (Fare-Paid tickets only) 65 - Entry time exceeded on platform ticket (66-72 - Spare) 73 - Ticket given back for possible emergency use (e.g.. substitute bus service) and is not valid at this station (74-81 - Spare) 82 + 83 - Illogical Use of Ticket (84-89 - Spare) 90 - Gates set to reject this ticket type (normally child-lock) (91-98 - Spare) 99 - UTS Gate Fault (Check Time-out) If I've missed any, please let us know. These codes come into four catagories : (1) - Those in everyday use - 00, 03, 07, 08, 09, 11, 12, 13, 21, 22, 41, 42, 51, 90 (2) - Those used often in the city, but not on SA's list - 10, 23, (3) - Others on the SA's list - 02, 05, 06, 16, 17, 18, 19, 33, 52*, 53*, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 73, 82, 83, (4) - Only in technical material - 01, 04, 14, 15, 31, 32, 54*, 99 (*) - Not Used - 20, 24-30, 34-40, 43-50, 55-60, 66-72, 74-81, 84-89, 91-98 NB: The software for this was very unreliable, and so has not happened for years (if ever, if I'm understanding the situation correctly). Affects those with *. [1] #33 is when, say you exit through Monument station and re-enter at Tower Hill. The interchange is illogical, so won't accept your ticket. [2] Pass is things like Staff/Dependant/Retired passes. Permits are things like Freedom Passes. Both can be intercepted if reported lost or stolen (retained by machine, machine closes awaiting staff assistance. Code remains for staff to decipher) Note: RCI = Revenue Control Inspector, PFN = Penalty Fare, SA = Station Assistant, RCM = Revenue Control Manager(?) NB: The above codes also apply on National Railways barriers, which are virtually identical to the LU ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 "63 - Too long on platform (platform tickets only)" That is interesting as you can get done for fare evasion is you have bunked through and are standing on the platform, even if you havent borded any train. Saying that you are waiting for your mate on the platform is no excuse, as you actually have to buy a platform ticket for about 40p I think. They have thought of everything :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 The fun never ends.... http://solo2.abac.com/themole/tuberules.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeque Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Oyster Cards From Jon Bird, 23 October 2002 The new oyster cards are all electronically serial numbered. If you lose it, simply report its loss and it is immediately invalidated on the London Transport system. This means that within 24 hours of you reporting it, every machine with an Oyster card acceptance disc (the yellow pads) will have been in touch with the central reporting computer system to download its audits etc and part of the information that is sent back will include your invalidated serial number. Anyone who may be minded to think that they can report theirs as lost and give the replacement to a friend etc simply because they technically do not have to show their card will be in for a shock. These new cards are light years ahead in the technology department from their predecessors. I know in the past there was a way to get 2 passes for the price of one, but believe me, Oyster is not like that. You will just have to believe me when I say that these cards have been thoroughly tested for this sort of occurrance. Of course if you let someone else travel with your pass and they get away with it, then there isn't really anything more than what can be done today. However, Oyster cards do not mean that the Hounds of Hell (sorry revenue protection officers) will be retired, oh no. Oyster will still be checked by these guys in much the same way as the current cards are. To give you an example. Yesterday I took my son to the science museum at South Kensington. An RPO was checking travel cards etc at the gates. My son travelling on his priv ticket wasn't checked, but I used the gate he was on and obviously used my Oyster to operate the gates. This meant I didn't even have to take my wallet out of my pocket (something I rarely do anyway!) Despite the fact that at present it is only LT staff who are just starting to get the Oyster Card, I was still asked to show my Oyster card and Photocard, and to cap it all, he even had one of the new style hand held card readers to check the validity of the Oyster card! So for those of you who wish to be fraudulent in the use of your travel card, it is entirely your decission to be so, but Oyster will not make it any easier for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostvandal Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Originally posted by peter N0rth AT FIRST I WAS TURNED OFF BY THE OUTSTANDING LACK OF PHOTOGRAPHS. IMMEDIATLEY AFTER THIS, I WAS DISCUSTED TO READ YOUR A EUROPEAN. (KIDDING) NAH BUT HONESTLY, YOU SUCK hahahahaha SERIOUSLY STEAL THE MORE CARDS YOU CAN!! and next time put some flicks when you post on metal head :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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