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DRAFT!!!!!

Discussion in 'News' started by MrSirius, Nov 5, 2004.

  1. MrSirius

    MrSirius 12oz Junior Member

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    DRAFT!!!!!

    Discussion started by MrSirius - Nov 5, 2004

    Mandatory Draft?

    EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!

    Mandatory draft for males and females (ages 18-26)starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about. This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children that will have to go if this bill passes.

    There is pending legislation in the house and senate (companion bills: S89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin as early as spring, 2005, just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately. Details and links follow.

    This plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a shelter and includes women in the draft. Also, crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.

    Actions: Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . .
    And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change!

    This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found in detail at this website: Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will bring up the bill for you to read. It is less than two pages long.

    If this bill passes, it will include all men and ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In addition, college will no longer be an option for avoiding the draft and they will be signing an agreement with Canada which will no longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to stay within it's borders. This bill also includes the extension of military service for all those that are currently active.

    If you go to the select service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will see that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the military in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this will effect our undergraduates, our children and our grandchildren.

    Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how you feel about this legislation. www.house.gov <www.senate.gov <

    Please also write to your representatives and ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

    $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service system budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.

    Please see www. sss. gov/perfplan_fy2004. html to view the Selective Service System annual performance plan, fiscal year 2004. The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U. S. may have no choice but to draft.

    the Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons age
    18-26) in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes."

    These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and Canada will not be options. In December, 2001, Canada and the U. S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada 's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U. S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge , the declaration involves a 30 point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

    What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your legislators and ask them to oppose these bills Just type "congress" into the aol search engine and input your zip code. A list of your reps will pop up with a way to email them directly. We can't just sit and pretend that by ignoring it, it will go away. We must voice our concerns and create the world we want to live in for our children and grandchildren.
     
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  2. imported_Tesseract - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    welcome to my world
     
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    <KEY3> - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    [​IMG]

    Looks kind of dull.
     
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  4. !@#$%

    !@#$% Moderator Crew

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    !@#$% - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    well, that's what the kids get for only voting 56% for kerry.
    very sad indeed.
    shoulda betta known betta.

    you know, it occured to me recently how hard bush is fucking the national guard.

    who ever heard of the national guard fighting a war overseas?
    and especially becuase bush USED the fucking GUARD to get OUT of vietnam
    what a fuckwd.

    someone should send him to iraq in an unarmored vehicle.

    it still looks unlikely that a mandatory draft will return.

    hahaha never for me!!
     
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    stylus1 - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    i stumbled across that shit last summer, and did a fair amount of research, You should be aware that the legislation was proposed by a democrat from south carolina i believe. The bill hasn't even been looked at since 2003, and its not likely to happen, There are no such things as dates of when it will happen, thats total bullshit, don't believe it. It was a bill proposed by one person, did i add Democrat, and has had no supporters. Yes, it scared the shit out of me for a few weeks, but after researching a lot on it and taking a second look, its nothing but a bunch of liberal bullshit, they play just as dirty as they say we do; and as long as there are gonna be crazy fucking radicals out there, we'll be seeing more shit like this. Educate yourself, and by that comment i'm not belittling anyone. I still voted for bush, and though he is probably lying about how he said it could never happen, i'm not expecting to see any real action on this issue. Now that there is a republican on this board, go ahead set yourselves loose on me, but don't believe that email or that article,
     
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    haha you voted for bush.

    thanks for helping destroy my country.

    don't argue.
    just watch what happens.
     
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  7. imported_Tesseract - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    I dont think a draft could harm the states. Its only fair that when you decide to murder the whole world..rich spoiled kids would die along with the poorest/no other option soldiers. Of course innocent kids who didnt want anything to do with the war would die too..but thats democracy. Maybe you'd be more carefull on where you'd place your vote if your own ass was on the line you stoopid bloodhungry christian illiterate cowards.
     
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    booo - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    this what i say....fuck it yup thats what i said ..fuck it..
    cause if they say i have to go in they show up at my house u know what i tell them....fuck that shit i voted for kerry ..[boom]the slame of the front door in your face bush.....
     
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    SteveAustin - Replied Nov 5, 2004


    There's really no need, I think you said it perfectly. I just cleaned it up for you a bit. There are a couple more republicans here.
     
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    This is where you are wrong Tesseract. Rich spoiled kids don't go to war. Their dads buy them safe tickets out of harms way. Bush Sr. did it for W. Of course W. has all the National Guardsmen fighting in Iraq now. Nice of him to fuck there contingency plan. Oh well...there's still the Coast Guard and doctors notes.
     
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  11. imported_Tesseract - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    I know man, i'm saying that if there was a 'regular' draft people may have been way more responsible with their votes...like you can have anything 'regular' with that fucker Bush...i feel ya.
     
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    booo - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    This is where you are wrong Tesseract. Rich spoiled kids don't go to war. Their dads buy them safe tickets out of harms way. Bush Sr. did it for W. Of course W. has all the National Guardsmen fighting in Iraq now. Nice of him to fuck there contingency plan. Oh well...there's still the Coast Guard and doctors notes.
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    FUCK U BITCH....SO U SAYING MIDDELCLASS PEOPLE GOT TO GO 2 WAR FUCK THAT SHIT IT SHOULD BE THE RICH FUCKIN ASS EATERS....
    I WOULD TAKE A SHIT ON YOUR CAR MAN WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH U BUSH IS GOING TO HAVE A DRAFT.........
     
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    ah man, I know you know whats up.
    it was just another opportunity to take a shot at bush.

    of course, there's gonna be plenty of those in the upcoming 4 years.
     
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    booo - Replied Nov 5, 2004

    FBUSH........
     
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    BUSH SUCKS
    EVERYBODY POST IT EVERY WHERE ON 12OZ.....
     
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