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2 articles on "celebrating" palestinians

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Angrysamoan, Sep 14, 2001.

  1. Angrysamoan

    Angrysamoan New Jack

    Joined: Aug 12, 2001 Messages: 42 Likes Received: 0
    This one comes from a poster at www.indymedia.org (a good independent media news source, for those of you interested). I'm not sure about the truthfulness of this, but hopefully we will be finding out soon for sure. Something to think about...

    CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE of celebrating Palistinians to manipulate you
    by Marcio 9:10am Thu Sep 13 '01
    address: State University of Campinas - Brazil

    All around the world we are subjected to 3 or
    4 huge news distributors, and one of them - as
    you well know - is CNN. Very well, I guess
    all of you have been seeing (just as I've been)
    images from this company.

    I'd like to add some ideas from here, down south.

    There's an important point in the power of press, specifically the power of

    All around the world we are subjected to 3 or 4 huge news distributors,
    and one of them - as you well know - is CNN. Very well, I guess all of
    you have been seeing (just as I've been) images from this company. In
    particular, one set of images called my attencion: the Palestinians
    celebrating the bombing, out on the streets, eating some cake and making
    funny faces for the camera.

    Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN 1991!!! Those are
    images of Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait! It's simply
    unacceptable that a super-power of cumminications as CNN uses images
    which do not correspond to the reality in talking about so serious an

    A teacher of mine, here in Brazil, has videotapes recorded in 1991, with
    the very same images; he's been sending emails to CNN, Globo (the
    major TV network in Brazil) and newspapers, denouncing what I myself
    classify as a crime against the public opinion. If anyone of you has access
    to this
    kind of files, serch for it. In the meanwhile, I'll try to 'put my hands' on
    copy of this tape.

    But now, think for a moment about the impact of such images. Your
    people is hurt, emotionally fragile, and this kind broadcast have very high
    possibility of causing waves of anger and rage against Palestinians.
    It's simply irresponsible to show images such as those.

    Finally, I'd like to say that we all regret and condemn all that has
    happened in the last days; but Nikos has a point here. I really don't want
    to be misunderstood here, but the truth is that US government had
    shown no respect for other countries in the last decades. In the 60s and
    70s they had halped lots of military coups throughout the world (including
    Brazil in 64). Later, with Reagan and Bush Father, the Washington
    Consensus have been demolishing the bases of our economies, making us
    more and more dependant (and, many of us, prehocupied with this

    Your current president quickly made things worse: Kioto Protocol, Star
    Wars, Colombia Plan, the exchange of rain forest for pieces of external
    debt, tha abandonment of the position of third party in negotiations
    between IRA and England, and between Palestinians and Israel. All those
    mistakes in US external politics made your country more hatred than
    before, and, of course, more vulnerable.

    Listen, I'm NOT justifying the terrorist actions that took place in your
    country; but it seems to me that, if your leaders had come along another
    path of thoughts and actions, you wouldn't be suffering what you are

    Best regards, and the hope that everything is resolved for the best of all

    Márcio A. V. Carvalho
    State University of Campinas - Brazil
  2. Angrysamoan

    Angrysamoan New Jack

    Joined: Aug 12, 2001 Messages: 42 Likes Received: 0
    and here's another article on a related topic:

    September 12, 2001, 11:23 AM

    - The Palestinian leadership of Nablus on Wednesday denied that citizens of
    the West Bank town had celebrated the huge attack on the United States a
    day earlier.
    The Nablus governorate said in a statement the Palestinians were
    demonstrating against an incursion by Israeli forces into the autonomous
    Palestinian town of Jenin.

    "The Nablus governorate completely condemns the most terrible operation"
    against New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington, it
    said, expressing its condolences to victims and their relatives.

    "We would like to clarify that people in the city of Nablus on Tuesday
    evening were demonstrating against the Israeli incursion into the city of
    Jenin and chanting 'God is great' to express their solidarity with their
    brothers," it said.

    It called reports that the rallies were a "celebration of what had happened
    in the USA ... a complete defamation."

    Retired schoolteacher Mustafa Ahlan said: "I don't like the Americans, but
    I don't think bringing down planes full of civilians is going to help."

    © 2001 AFP
  3. Angrysamoan

    Angrysamoan New Jack

    Joined: Aug 12, 2001 Messages: 42 Likes Received: 0
    and finally, one more article written by a palestinian in response to reports that they were celebrating the terrorist acts:

    my dear friends ,

    I express to you ,my american friends, my profound sorrow and my
    closeness in prayer for all victims at this horrible and tragic moment.i
    really feel sorry for all the world,i feel sorry for us,HUMAN beings.
    we are not human any more,we are animals!!!! i feel outraged and angry
    for this aggression against humanity!!!it is really horrible,the world
    that we are living in!!!! it is a jungle where animals eat each other
    for survival!!! under the bombing of the bethlehem Area,palestinains
    were stuck in front of TV ,watching the horrible inhuman attack while
    hearing the bombs falling around! how would they behave??? Palestinians
    are confused and desperate ...Palestinains are not celebrating the death
    of people....i have tears in my eyes now because of the horrible image
    you are getting from news!!! it is wrong...i am begging you, my friends,
    not to believe what you see......Palestinians were celebrating the
    withdrawal of the Israeli army from the palestinian city,jenin!!! that
    was it! we are being attacked every day...my Best friends' house was
    bombard at two minutes from where i stay at bethlehem....believe me,i
    don't want to talk about my suffering as much as i want to talk about
    the suffering of all human beings around the globe of whom we don't know
    very well....!!!!!!! Palestinian groups denounced and condemned the
    attack ...reminding you that our struggle is against Occupation and
    slavery. America, as a super power, has duties toward weak nations
    asking for its help. WAKE UP americans!!!!we need your help!!! the
    oppressed,the hungry,the poor in this world are crying out for help!!!!
    President Bush ended his speech last night:::'''None of us will ever
    forget this day, yet we go forward to defend freedom and all that is
    good and just in our world"""" i hope so! hey my friends, i am with you
    ...we are together in spirit and soul.....we share same values,we share
    the same struggle ....

    i love you and pray for you.

  4. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2001 Messages: 8,127 Likes Received: 0
  5. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2001 Messages: 8,127 Likes Received: 0
    if you're watching cnn right now, they are at it again..........
  6. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235

    the only reason anyone has been anti palestinian is because of those pictures. pictures that its now come to light, were completely fabricated to give us an enemy to rally against. so now all across the country arabs are getting assaulted because our news agencies ran stock fottage thats a decade old. yeah for america. the innocent are already laying in pools of their own blood.
  7. Angrysamoan

    Angrysamoan New Jack

    Joined: Aug 12, 2001 Messages: 42 Likes Received: 0
    Yup this kinda thing fucking PISSES ME OFF. We should bomb the fuckers that put up those bullshit images!

    iSLEEPwithMIDGETS Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 5, 2001 Messages: 1,064 Likes Received: 0
    well since well probably end up bombing the shit out of them anyway...i wanna get my city to start cheering and celebrating and have it broadcasted to there survivors...but there probably wont be any because there country is so fucking small and poor we could probably take them out with one bomb
  9. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    honestly....at this point i think id be better informed had i sat in a room by myself for three days staring a photo of the trade center, so much bull shit information is flooding the media, its everyone from abc to these random web posting....i honestly dont know what to belive and any information i could recive is tained with bias....

    brick, brick ,brick...thats how i be up against your girlfriends ass...
  10. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    i sleep with midgets, are you actually reading the shit your replying to? these things are saying that our media gave us images of completely unrelated events, and told us they were celebrating. and still your advocating bombing them?
  11. Mr.Raven

    Mr.Raven Guest

    I think he was referencing those that are spreading the fasle propaganda (posting images)
  12. onesandzeros

    onesandzeros Member

    Joined: Apr 10, 2000 Messages: 588 Likes Received: 0
    the us media has been rediculously anti palestinian for awhile now. we as a country are one of the only ones in the us that supports israel blindly on everything, and our media never tells of the brutality that gets played out apon palestinians on a daily basis. we'll emphasize how 2 israeli soldiers got killed, but in the same article not give a fuck about how they shot 14 children with rocks. it goes on because everyone is scared about speaking out and being called anti-semetic.

    this probably didnt make any sense, fuck i have a sinus headache....
  13. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,363 Likes Received: 299
    Not all the media is "Anti-Palestine" . In today's Los Angeles Time's front section. There was a photograph and article showing a school of palestine children participating in a moment of silence in respect to those in the US.
  14. otto dix

    otto dix Veteran Member

    Joined: Feb 22, 2001 Messages: 5,321 Likes Received: 4
    not everything is going to be in plain english, black and white for us...we are going to have to pick apart what we choose to believe. thats life. good point there pistola.
  15. Breakinblazer2000

    Breakinblazer2000 Junior Member

    Joined: Sep 13, 2000 Messages: 178 Likes Received: 0
    riiiiiight, bin laden sends his fascists over here to kill our innocent civilians but "oh no! heaven forbid we should ever DO anything about it! let it slide! just let the man do his thing!" well it certainly worked with the first trade center bombing, not to mention tanzania, kenya, the uss cole, and every other ruthless murder of american citizens. germany was a straggling mutt of a nation when hitler started his rise to power, dont let shit like that fool you. if the taliban wants to harbor this worthless motherfucker then the blame falls just as much on them as it does on him.