Zed_Eastwood Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 a- isnt that a moderator call? b- since noone is posting classic transit fliks at the moment (including you) this is keeping the thread alive. c- i think the people who visit and participate in this thread routinely appreciate the value of THESE freights and dont mind seeing them here. noone has objected but you. maybe you're some kind of freight hater - which is fine, its your opinion - but i dont think anyone cares THESE freights are being posted. sorry to disappoint - but its not all about you, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbrains Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I Just got the SENTO book and the N.Y. subway graffiti book off amazon. God damn! The schiffer book is worth it for the Mirage end to ends alone. And the sento book is just a fucking classic. Props Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 ****nobody hears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Droolo Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Oh shit, those fr8's are burnin' ! And he even did a pink panther theme, killer !! One of my best subway memories is of being at the stadium watching a Yankee game back around '79-'81, can't recall exact year, and seeing a killer black and pink VINNY whole car roll by in the background with the panther and inspector on either end if I remember correctly. Would love to see a pic of that car now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRIZ 156 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 a- isnt that a moderator call? b- since noone is posting classic transit fliks at the moment (including you) this is keeping the thread alive. c- i think the people who visit and participate in this thread routinely appreciate the value of THESE freights and dont mind seeing them here. noone has objected but you. maybe you're some kind of freight hater - which is fine, its your opinion - but i dont think anyone cares THESE freights are being posted. sorry to disappoint - but its not all about you, mate. Exactly, those that know can appreciate the content on those freights as well, those are NYC Subway pioneers right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRIZ 156 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Goddamm Pre! Cem dope as hell. Some more scans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jib25 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Pure freshness!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 who did the karl piece .. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raysin Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 KING^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raysin Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 STILL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPMDfan Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Nice post BH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapler Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 a- isnt that a moderator call? b- since noone is posting classic transit fliks at the moment (including you) this is keeping the thread alive. BS. i dropped some flicks a page or 2 back. c- i think the people who visit and participate in this thread routinely appreciate the value of THESE freights and dont mind seeing them here. noone has objected but you. again: 99% of the other topics are about freights. keep em there maybe you're some kind of freight hater - which is fine, its your opinion - but i dont think anyone cares THESE freights are being posted. sorry to disappoint - but its not all about you, mate. I dont mind seeing them but in the right topic thats all. bring on the true stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthspeaker Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 A letter I have been hearing about the fact that you and T are accusing each other of being a snitch. The sad truth is that neither of you two was behind this set-up,but your beloved friend COPE2 was.( I was told by someone who knows the truth) COPE2 was not only just a snitch but a informant who worked for years for VS. J Riveras book shows a hateletter from Cope on the back??,while at the same time Joe says in the book that Cope was a friendly young man bla bla.This does not make any sense unless Cope is an informant. Did you know that the clean trains Cope paints on film,without a mask??? were staged by Joe and Cope to prove that Copes a legit hardcore train bomber,so that he was able to infiltarate the graff scene and snitch writers. Ovie,Ket the twins and a bunch of other guys were snitched by Cope. Its a shame you and T-kid are accusing each other because of fucking Cope2. The ugliest part is that Cope himself has said that is is either “them or him”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 A letter I have been hearing about the fact that you and T are accusing each other of being a snitch. The sad truth is that neither of you two was behind this set-up,but your beloved friend COPE2 was.( I was told by someone who knows the truth) COPE2 was not only just a snitch but a informant who worked for years for VS. J Riveras book shows a hateletter from Cope on the back??,while at the same time Joe says in the book that Cope was a friendly young man bla bla.This does not make any sense unless Cope is an informant. Did you know that the clean trains Cope paints on film,without a mask??? were staged by Joe and Cope to prove that Copes a legit hardcore train bomber,so that he was able to infiltarate the graff scene and snitch writers. Ovie,Ket the twins and a bunch of other guys were snitched by Cope. Its a shame you and T-kid are accusing each other because of fucking Cope2. The ugliest part is that Cope himself has said that is is either “them or him”. hey loser, stop spreading rumors. THE TRUTH TO YOUR LIES. Old beef coming back from the subway era… TKID to SEEN Yo my man cut the shit with your bull shit. I`m going to tell you something..I didn’t pay that incident any mind till that day we were painting together with cope in that school yard. I listen very carefully to what you said that day and your own words led me to believe what I felt in my gut for the longest. You came looking for me to get into the yard not the other way around.PAL!!! so rethink that set up shit and be forth coming and get honest with yourself.. I see your ego is bigger then you and you think I live in your world pal.. I will put something on u tube just for you pal. Dont forget its a small world and you and ass holes like you always get what they got coming to them. So make your fucking threats sell your books pal and then be the true lil self centerd piece of shit you are and suck my dick. You never did anything for me and you never got me to go to EUROPE and I want to thank you for the heads up you fucking RAT MOTHER fucker. You think you got shit on me…lol.. Duded all I can say is that you know and I know I never ratted on any one.. Can you say the same. If your so famous and untouchable and not a rat why did you make such a big deal..Hmmmm makes me wonder. Another thing apparently that high school you and your Boy Joe River ( Vandal Squad retired) went to.. does not teach reading comprehension..I wrote in my book that I believe in my gut that you set me up that day. but from your behavior I now know you did set me up. . So Pal listen to me and listen to me good. I let go of the ego a long time ago and I dont care what doors you open close or what ever.. do your worst pal . I come from nothing and know how to live with nothing and crumbs is what I`m use to. Just like every real artist. In the end my friend I will be part of history and my fame will live forever and you my friend will always be famous but a Rat!!! You went around bad mouthing me and tried to get others to deal with me..lol and that did not work. Now you send me a e-mail with numbers and figures and treats.Lol. I see that it sucks being a rat.. I know your conflict is not with me but with yourself.. It ok Rich I forgive you bro. But eventually you will have to deal with the all mighty and the truth will come out then..You fucked over a lot of people in your life time and you will continue to do so. Oh and all the fucked up shit you did and the way you puusied up at the tattoo shop will be in my new book.. Yea I got one too..lol including this letter.. TKID PS. I will forward a copy of this letter to everyone Magazines galleries.That way they can see what a piece of shit you really are I hope they print it and let the battle begin.. Pal I didn`t start this.. YOU DID !!! By being a fucking Rat!! In a message dated 9/25/2009 6:35:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, seen writes: T-kid, This will be the only time i will write you and say this, hopefully you will take this serious if you intend to stay in the graffiti game. You crossed the line and made accusations in your book about me being a rat, we both know this is not true. Why you felt the need to say this is beyond me, unless you are jelous of my stature in the graffiti world or was it damage control and you felt you needed to dump it on someone else before you were exposed of being the real rat. Well, we both know it was a set up that night, and we both know the truth about who the rat is. What i am getting at is you had a book made with only 4 or 5,OOO copies made at the most,,,,and i am sure way less than half have been sold at this time. My book will be going into print within the next 6 months and will be released sept,2010 the first printing of my book will be 50,000 copies, and at this time over 25,000 copies are already pre sold. Unless i receive a public aplogie from you on U-tube i will print this story in detail of that night in the 4 yard and accuss you of being the rat that night along with other further dirt i found about you in the past. I beleive this is what is called an eye for an eye. remember one thing i dident start this you did, and im willing to go the whole mile. In the past i only helped you get through the doors to eroupe, but, i see you forgot about that,,,,just remember im in europe now and i have much pull in the countries i wish to work in, i could have the most important doors closed in your face here leaving you only crumbs in a shit hole show if i need to, and i will if i have too. For sure youll never have anything of importance happening for you in paris. thats a givin, thats for the agravation you’ve giving me in the past. although there is the rest of the world. I will not reply to this letter, but if i dont hear back and get my apologie i will print the story in my book that we all know will never go out of print. because i am the most famous grattiti writer in the world. SEEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysin Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 SEEN- the origional trust fund kid of the graff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh145th Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yo i did not post that toy shit with my comment. What the fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 ^^^^i didnt post that shit up top either ...12oz goin crazy again, time for another big crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 why did that tkid/seen beef shit get dragged into here ?!?!?!? they need to squash that shit.. it's kinda embarassing watching legendary writers like that beef...especially at that age n shit...idk just my opinion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapler Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 SEEN- the origional trust fund kid of the graff game. and the point is??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 it's kinda like when mom and dad used to be fighting and you just kinda sit there and dont know what to say or how to feel lol lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasameski Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yo i did not post that toy shit with my comment. What the fuck? HA, I was thinking the same thing, WTF is homes posting this shit - LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRIZ 156 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yo i did not post that toy shit with my comment. What the fuck? Peace D! 12oz is adding ghost attachments , if caught in time you can edit your post remove the attachment. See http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130561 for more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRIZ 156 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 who did the karl piece .. ? It was done by Karl TCM South Boogie. He had a few cars out in the 80's using Karl or his alias Sert. He always rocked some ill characters as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 the PART book is truly amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAE114 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 That dude "KARl",and the "TDC"crew did some dope trains.I always liked there lettering style and characters.I remember one time I was in the bronx doing a piece on a wall back in 1993 and this dude came up and we started talking for a minute,then he left and came back with a giant photo album with all these trains that were done by them.I was like damn!,their's alot of graf out of NewYork that people really have never seen before that was of the hook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 the first time i went to the bronx to bench, TDC had mad cars/pieces running. they were also pretty fierce on the letter lines. not much about them in the annals of history, not yet at least. nuff respect due. Never knew Karl and Sert was the same person. Criz dropin knowledge - thanks. Jackson Ave 1987 Atlantic Ave 1986. I think this car was in one of them old IGTs. The Karl may have been married to this or done at the same time. Rob and PJ smashed this shit by the time i saw it. The Sert is Nic's photo. Always wondered about this car. Sorry, the KKOne does not really fit..but err, i guess it fits with the thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRIZ 156 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Peace Zed! nice additions.. here are some others, while the dune is a wall Karl rocked the character.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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