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Originally posted by Haywood J.+Oct 21 2004, 12:54 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haywood J. - Oct 21 2004, 12:54 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-veronica@Oct 18 2004, 03:36 PM

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I JUST LOOKED THROUGH THIS MAG. ITS ALL BOMBING ALL TIE. THIS MAGAZINE IS ILL. TONS OF FLICKS I HADNT EVER SEEN.

 

Thought this looked interesting.

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thats tie (the picture)?

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Originally posted by TeezerPHM+Oct 25 2004, 11:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TeezerPHM - Oct 25 2004, 11:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Haywood J.@Oct 21 2004, 12:54 AM

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thats tie (the picture)?

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Yes.

 

I know someone's saying "But dude, it cost's money...". If you know a publisher that gives away magazines let me know.

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wow! awesome flicks included in this thread!! RIP TIE. everyone misses you.

 

i remember one time i went out bombing with another sf heavy hitter and he saw a TIE no parking sign one day and that night he brought tools to take down the sign for keeps. lucky.

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what a tragic story.. fuck that dude who shot TIE

fuckin :five-o:

im no CSI FBI forensic detective or anything but in my opinion I don't think TIE was shot accidently..

I bet TIE paniced to get the gun away from his head then the pig faggot shot him..

N maybe TIE doesn't speak english too well and when he paniced he had trouble reasoning.. and he could of been out of breathe when he was climbing that shit too...

 

shit i dont know...

 

REST IN PEACE :king: TIE STILL INSPIRING!

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Tie spoke English fine.

 

Obviously Tie was murdered. By a Vietnam Vet, trained to kill Asians, holed up and terrified in the Tenderloin. William Porter claims Tie grabbed the gun and it accidently went off... In the back of his head. Think about it, its impossible.

 

The DA didn't care. Tie was a vandal, William Porter was a 'good citizen'. Fuck the state.

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yeah my bad for even assuming what happened to Tie...

that was stupid... but right after that. I did find an Saber interview on guerillaone.com where he talked a bit about Tie..

here it is...

 

Q- Our friend Tie's death, can you talk about that explain it briefly?

 

 

Saber- yeah uh.. our friend Jonathan Lim, Tie, he was an 18 year old Asian young virgin Buddhist he was a good kid. He had more energy than I ever seen in any graffiti writer in my life. If you put all us together, he would be four our five of us energy wise and nobody could stop him, he was an unstoppable force. Yet fate seem to stop him uh a man named... uh.. William, William Porter, that's his fuckin name, well he executed my friend while doing raffiti, and blew his head off and he was acquitted. It was in the newspapers it was a really big deal within our scene we've had a lot of memorials, and he was there and he would videotape us and talk shit I don't know he's just a very evil person, he got away with murder.

 

Q-Why did he shoot him?

 

 

Saber- ...you know San Francisco is very tight its very ghetto, ghetto as fuck, a lot of dirt a lot of crack sales, fiends, in this neighborhood, specifically, it's very crack infested neighborhood and this guy lived there and um he (Tie) was just walking up the stairs and climbing up the pole and he didn't know that he lived there and the guy came out and pulled him off the pole, hit him with the butt of the gun and executed him.

 

Q- Shot him?

 

Saber- Shot him in the back of the head as he was running, and this man has been in Vietnam; he has shot people before, he has targets on his door, he shot a fiend there two years before, he videotapes his premises, he has sensors on the stairs, he's also a famous photographer in San Francisco, so uh, he got away with the shit man straight forward. I seen him with male hookers I seen him with all kinds of hookers. And every time I see him I scream at more about that, him, I scream my heart at his ass, he'll just be like , "fuck you I murdered your friend..." I don't know what to say much , who knows where that guy is going to go from this point, who knows, he's definitely got some serious karmatic justice heading his way.

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jerk182

i dont necesarily believe tie was the first to do any

of the following but here are some elements to his

bombing that he definately blew up on the west coast.

things like

 

-rocking buff spots hard regardless, showing everyone

just how random the buff was at the time. some of the

grayest walls were running for months with tie or seo

outlines bouncing up and down as he made his path.

 

-the one line throwup............. done before but

speed was the name of his game. he was bombing tie

with mq who has a much simpler throwup and you could

tell he was keeping up. even became more aerodynamic

with seo and its 3 sweeping lines that made them so

fresh, you could see the motion of his bombing and it

was fucking exciting.

 

-painting through the window grates. GNARLY spots on

market and mission.

 

-doing such "weird" (at the time) tags at a point in

sg graff where a lot of people were still trying to

perfect their twist hands or trying ot be gangsters

with their cholo letters.

 

- doing the, "backwards reversed inside the windows of

the building you just broke into" trick. on one of the

tightest buildings ever on market with fate 5 stories

of windows with like 7 on each floor. (i couldn't find

pictures of this spot. anyone got it?) many people

would do this after, creating a whole new kind of shot

to seek out.

 

-making a point of painting over multiple surfaces.

not fitting into the typical spaces everyone would

gently place their graffiti into. tie would blast over

the brick wall onto the glass door filling inover the

door frame and circling your doorbell with the dot of

his "e". and all seemingly on purpose with speed. tie

created the most amazing compositions on the walls he

painted, seeking out interesting things to paint over

and juxtapose into his outlines. sometimes not filling

in so you could see just what it was that attracted

him to the spot.

 

-the 3 dot halo on your throwup or tag. or adding the

three lines to the halo on your tag. (he definately

didnt do this first. but after he was rocking it it

worked its way in to a lot of peoples repertoirs.)

 

-connecting the lines of your throwup to show the

overlap of your next letter. (do you know what i

mean?) look at the way the i is both behind and in

front of his t. this trick was later adopted by fate.

to place his t behind and infront of his throw. very

fresh.

 

-leaving the part of his t un-outlined. you know the

spiral part. i definately saw twist dothis on the west

coast years before but since tie ive seen an awefull

lot of people utilizing that spiral or letting that

fill mist into the background unrestrained by an

outline.

 

-just an overall trend to doing what at the time were

considered weird and ny looking throwups. now it seems

everyone has a throwup in this style. remember when

west coast throwups sucked? people would do those

throws where the top of everyletter had the same wispy

point thing? i remember, i used to do them.

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it was funny that painting a lot was "trying to belike

tie". guys like kept abandoned anal german thin tip

piecing to become a throwup monster. (also very

influential in the school of what many would call

"ugly")

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like a tornado had just passed thru..everything..and I

mean everything was covered..with pure

writing..fast,furious,yet delicately crafted...like

the little faces i the "t"..

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when we got outside he started doing hollows on the

gate of the community center that was hosting the

event. he wasn't speaking much, but he handed me the

can of yellow topped with a stock tip just as one of

the organizers started yelling. i gave him the can

back, he put it in his bag and went back in to sit

down. he rocked almost every page in my book and gave

me a load of stickers.

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he one time left me a whole thirty minute message on

my machine with that stuff in the background rapping

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when he went to Nyc- he brought 60 mops filled with

him, some pens, stickers, and a sweater-just about

nothing else.

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i was painting a piece once and he rolled me up and

started screaming at me at the top of his lungs

because i had brushed an outline of his, but then

proceded to break me off german thin tips cause he

didnt want to see me outlining with stock caps, then

twist rolls up and tie starts yelling at him too,

llike" you fuckin never go bombin, you need to

represent thr barry, i go out every night barry! i go

bombing i go tie tie tie tie all over this fuckin

city!, then some girl in a car rolls up to the spot,

and tie tries to hook me up with her, man it was

great, we made peace all together right there, but it

seemed like twisto and tie didnt hit it off so great,

as it would seem. the night after or so some cat that

had funk with twist for some reason rolled up on tie,

and this dude was huge! and tie straight said "i got

twists back till the day i die!" and spit in dudes

face, this dude was twice as big and twice as tall as

tie, and tie took one for the team that night, and was

still talkin shit on the ground from what i hear.

dude, this is funny shit... i was walking down the

street in san bruno one day years ago with my friend

mike... and this little chinese kid walks up and says,

all hyper, "yo, you guys write? i write tie, like

this," and bang, whips out a pilot and goes to town on

a payphone, right there in front of us, on el camino

in broad daylight. it kind of left me speechless.

still does… so, whenever i go past that corner, i

think of that day in 96 when he was daylight bombing

way before i ever thought of it

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LENS

I was lucky enough to come up on an old tie tag in

chinatown today while on photosafari....what a

score...

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Somebody's got to get the one on the ceiling in the

Duboce Tunnell. Super wide angle lens, 3-4 pics should

cover it.

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KuiK

Never heard of em but RIP. golden rule on that shit

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elephantboy

I remember going to my friends house and he had tie

bombs as a screen saver and i asked him who's that? he

said "dude thats TIE one of the sickest

bombers/writers ever"

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Originally posted by hova@Sep 7 2002, 02:04 PM

man, just found this thread. Jon See Lim was my nephew in traditional chinese culture, not blood, but related just the same. i remember when he first got down with thr and had to skip town so he could beat the rap on some graff cases he had in san jose. he went to chicago and ny to bomb and develop his style- broke his legs jumpin off a roof and hiding in snow to get over, he never even waited for his legs to heal and for the rest of his days walked with a small limp and in pain-but you would never know that cause he wouldnt show it. he would call me every day telling me about what he was hitting and who he was meeting-i used to think he was nuts and was actually really scared for him, sometimes i didnt believe him, he said sometimes he would do twenty throws a day, and twenty AT NIGHT! i couldnt believe that at all.

 

ok cut it short-heres my tie tales

 

that guy used to listen to kung fu disco soundtracks in his headphones when he was bombing, some ill bruce lee movie soundtracks and shit.

he one time left me a whole thirty minute message on my machine with that stuff in the background rapping.-what a nut.

 

when he went to Nyc- he brought 60 mops filled with him, some pens, stickers, and a sweater-just about nothing else.

 

i was painting a piece once and he rolled me up and started screaming at me at the top of his lungs because i had brushed an outline of his, but then proceded to break me off german thin tips cause he didnt want to see me outlining with stock caps, then twist rolls up and tie starts yelling at him too, llike" you fuckin never go bombin, you need to represent thr barry, i go out every night barry! i go bombing i go tie tie tie tie all over this fuckin city!, then some girl in a car rolls up to the spot, and tie tries to hook me up with her, man it was great, we made peace all together right there, but it seemed like twisto and tie didnt hit it off so great, as it would seem. the night after or so some cat that had funk with twist for some reason rolled up on tie, and this dude was huge! and tie straight said "i got twists back till the day i die!" and spit in dudes face, this dude was twice as big and twice as tall as tie, and tie took one for the team that night, and was still talkin shit on the ground from what i hear.

 

i visit jon once a year, his parents dont remember me but i visit them infrequently at the bakery and tip a lot.

 

great thread, love to see more flicks.

this really reminds me of him, reading this brings back memories of hanging out with him. i think i was there at that art show when that dude got in his face. but i really learned alot from bombing with him. i remember us packin two bags with about 20-30 cans each and about 5 mops each and some silver pens. he would tell me"we aint going back until this is all gone. starting at 12 in the afternoon till next morning. riding every where in the city doing throwies, tags, rooftops. too many good things to say. but i recently got that crown issue and noticed it said to be continued. i hope they put stories in the next one and a lil bit of his graff roots back in santa clara.

 

rest in power tie one

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For those of you who arent from frisco, theres this documentary thats coming out "piece by piece". Im sure some of you have heard of it. Well in a screening that they showed yesterday they had segments on both DREAM and TIE. When they were showing the TIE part, the whole room got quiet as fuck in both respect and fucking awe as they saw TIE's story being told. I thought that was pretty dope. I hope you guys will cop on this when it comes out.

 

 

RIPower

KING TIE...

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Originally posted by CACashRefund@Jan 14 2005, 06:31 PM

For those of you who arent from frisco, theres this documentary thats coming out "piece by piece". Im sure some of you have heard of it. Well in a screening that they showed yesterday they had segments on both DREAM and TIE. When they were showing the TIE part, the whole room got quiet as fuck in both respect and fucking awe as they saw TIE's story being told. I thought that was pretty dope. I hope you guys will cop on this when it comes out.

 

 

RIPower

KING TIE...

 

the damn roxie sold out on the 7pm show when we got up to the box office.. but for sure im getting piece by piece on dvd.

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