TeezerPHM Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Originally posted by Haywood J.+Oct 21 2004, 12:54 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haywood J. - Oct 21 2004, 12:54 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-veronica@Oct 18 2004, 03:36 PM www.cloutdistribution.com I JUST LOOKED THROUGH THIS MAG. ITS ALL BOMBING ALL TIE. THIS MAGAZINE IS ILL. TONS OF FLICKS I HADNT EVER SEEN. Thought this looked interesting. Quoted post [/b] thats tie (the picture)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kept1 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kept1 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Some pictures from the Tie Issue of Black Crown#2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kept1 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Originally posted by TeezerPHM+Oct 25 2004, 11:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TeezerPHM - Oct 25 2004, 11:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Haywood J.@Oct 21 2004, 12:54 AM <!--QuoteBegin-veronica@Oct 18 2004, 03:36 PM www.cloutdistribution.com Quoted post thats tie (the picture)? Quoted post [/b] Yes. I know someone's saying "But dude, it cost's money...". If you know a publisher that gives away magazines let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilush Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 wow! awesome flicks included in this thread!! RIP TIE. everyone misses you. i remember one time i went out bombing with another sf heavy hitter and he saw a TIE no parking sign one day and that night he brought tools to take down the sign for keeps. lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 damn thats a fucked up story,that guy should of been arrested..RIP Tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?$? Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 A huge Rest in peace for a well deserved spirit of gods work. God bless all your family and loved ones. Your legacy will live with all us. You made being a" king" seem easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetray Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 what a tragic story.. fuck that dude who shot TIE fuckin :five-o: im no CSI FBI forensic detective or anything but in my opinion I don't think TIE was shot accidently.. I bet TIE paniced to get the gun away from his head then the pig faggot shot him.. N maybe TIE doesn't speak english too well and when he paniced he had trouble reasoning.. and he could of been out of breathe when he was climbing that shit too... shit i dont know... REST IN PEACE :king: TIE STILL INSPIRING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kept1 Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Tie spoke English fine. Obviously Tie was murdered. By a Vietnam Vet, trained to kill Asians, holed up and terrified in the Tenderloin. William Porter claims Tie grabbed the gun and it accidently went off... In the back of his head. Think about it, its impossible. The DA didn't care. Tie was a vandal, William Porter was a 'good citizen'. Fuck the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetray Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 yeah my bad for even assuming what happened to Tie... that was stupid... but right after that. I did find an Saber interview on guerillaone.com where he talked a bit about Tie.. here it is... Q- Our friend Tie's death, can you talk about that explain it briefly? Saber- yeah uh.. our friend Jonathan Lim, Tie, he was an 18 year old Asian young virgin Buddhist he was a good kid. He had more energy than I ever seen in any graffiti writer in my life. If you put all us together, he would be four our five of us energy wise and nobody could stop him, he was an unstoppable force. Yet fate seem to stop him uh a man named... uh.. William, William Porter, that's his fuckin name, well he executed my friend while doing raffiti, and blew his head off and he was acquitted. It was in the newspapers it was a really big deal within our scene we've had a lot of memorials, and he was there and he would videotape us and talk shit I don't know he's just a very evil person, he got away with murder. Q-Why did he shoot him? Saber- ...you know San Francisco is very tight its very ghetto, ghetto as fuck, a lot of dirt a lot of crack sales, fiends, in this neighborhood, specifically, it's very crack infested neighborhood and this guy lived there and um he (Tie) was just walking up the stairs and climbing up the pole and he didn't know that he lived there and the guy came out and pulled him off the pole, hit him with the butt of the gun and executed him. Q- Shot him? Saber- Shot him in the back of the head as he was running, and this man has been in Vietnam; he has shot people before, he has targets on his door, he shot a fiend there two years before, he videotapes his premises, he has sensors on the stairs, he's also a famous photographer in San Francisco, so uh, he got away with the shit man straight forward. I seen him with male hookers I seen him with all kinds of hookers. And every time I see him I scream at more about that, him, I scream my heart at his ass, he'll just be like , "fuck you I murdered your friend..." I don't know what to say much , who knows where that guy is going to go from this point, who knows, he's definitely got some serious karmatic justice heading his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrafKix Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 R.I.P TIE. justice will be served eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeMathis Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 damn that article is crazy. i hope that bastard who shot him gets what he deserves. rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood J. Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 -------------- jerk182 i dont necesarily believe tie was the first to do any of the following but here are some elements to his bombing that he definately blew up on the west coast. things like -rocking buff spots hard regardless, showing everyone just how random the buff was at the time. some of the grayest walls were running for months with tie or seo outlines bouncing up and down as he made his path. -the one line throwup............. done before but speed was the name of his game. he was bombing tie with mq who has a much simpler throwup and you could tell he was keeping up. even became more aerodynamic with seo and its 3 sweeping lines that made them so fresh, you could see the motion of his bombing and it was fucking exciting. -painting through the window grates. GNARLY spots on market and mission. -doing such "weird" (at the time) tags at a point in sg graff where a lot of people were still trying to perfect their twist hands or trying ot be gangsters with their cholo letters. - doing the, "backwards reversed inside the windows of the building you just broke into" trick. on one of the tightest buildings ever on market with fate 5 stories of windows with like 7 on each floor. (i couldn't find pictures of this spot. anyone got it?) many people would do this after, creating a whole new kind of shot to seek out. -making a point of painting over multiple surfaces. not fitting into the typical spaces everyone would gently place their graffiti into. tie would blast over the brick wall onto the glass door filling inover the door frame and circling your doorbell with the dot of his "e". and all seemingly on purpose with speed. tie created the most amazing compositions on the walls he painted, seeking out interesting things to paint over and juxtapose into his outlines. sometimes not filling in so you could see just what it was that attracted him to the spot. -the 3 dot halo on your throwup or tag. or adding the three lines to the halo on your tag. (he definately didnt do this first. but after he was rocking it it worked its way in to a lot of peoples repertoirs.) -connecting the lines of your throwup to show the overlap of your next letter. (do you know what i mean?) look at the way the i is both behind and in front of his t. this trick was later adopted by fate. to place his t behind and infront of his throw. very fresh. -leaving the part of his t un-outlined. you know the spiral part. i definately saw twist dothis on the west coast years before but since tie ive seen an awefull lot of people utilizing that spiral or letting that fill mist into the background unrestrained by an outline. -just an overall trend to doing what at the time were considered weird and ny looking throwups. now it seems everyone has a throwup in this style. remember when west coast throwups sucked? people would do those throws where the top of everyletter had the same wispy point thing? i remember, i used to do them. ____________________________ it was funny that painting a lot was "trying to belike tie". guys like kept abandoned anal german thin tip piecing to become a throwup monster. (also very influential in the school of what many would call "ugly") _________________________________ like a tornado had just passed thru..everything..and I mean everything was covered..with pure writing..fast,furious,yet delicately crafted...like the little faces i the "t".. _______________________________ when we got outside he started doing hollows on the gate of the community center that was hosting the event. he wasn't speaking much, but he handed me the can of yellow topped with a stock tip just as one of the organizers started yelling. i gave him the can back, he put it in his bag and went back in to sit down. he rocked almost every page in my book and gave me a load of stickers. _______________________________ he one time left me a whole thirty minute message on my machine with that stuff in the background rapping __________________________________ when he went to Nyc- he brought 60 mops filled with him, some pens, stickers, and a sweater-just about nothing else. __________________________________ i was painting a piece once and he rolled me up and started screaming at me at the top of his lungs because i had brushed an outline of his, but then proceded to break me off german thin tips cause he didnt want to see me outlining with stock caps, then twist rolls up and tie starts yelling at him too, llike" you fuckin never go bombin, you need to represent thr barry, i go out every night barry! i go bombing i go tie tie tie tie all over this fuckin city!, then some girl in a car rolls up to the spot, and tie tries to hook me up with her, man it was great, we made peace all together right there, but it seemed like twisto and tie didnt hit it off so great, as it would seem. the night after or so some cat that had funk with twist for some reason rolled up on tie, and this dude was huge! and tie straight said "i got twists back till the day i die!" and spit in dudes face, this dude was twice as big and twice as tall as tie, and tie took one for the team that night, and was still talkin shit on the ground from what i hear. dude, this is funny shit... i was walking down the street in san bruno one day years ago with my friend mike... and this little chinese kid walks up and says, all hyper, "yo, you guys write? i write tie, like this," and bang, whips out a pilot and goes to town on a payphone, right there in front of us, on el camino in broad daylight. it kind of left me speechless. still does… so, whenever i go past that corner, i think of that day in 96 when he was daylight bombing way before i ever thought of it __________________________ LENS I was lucky enough to come up on an old tie tag in chinatown today while on photosafari....what a score... ____________________________ Somebody's got to get the one on the ceiling in the Duboce Tunnell. Super wide angle lens, 3-4 pics should cover it. ___________________________ KuiK Never heard of em but RIP. golden rule on that shit _____________________________________ elephantboy I remember going to my friends house and he had tie bombs as a screen saver and i asked him who's that? he said "dude thats TIE one of the sickest bombers/writers ever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ay0 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 rest in power jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetray Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 here are some of TIEs work i found on whileyouweresleeping.com with OZE n SABER with SEO RIP KING TIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outtacaps Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Originally posted by hova@Sep 7 2002, 02:04 PM man, just found this thread. Jon See Lim was my nephew in traditional chinese culture, not blood, but related just the same. i remember when he first got down with thr and had to skip town so he could beat the rap on some graff cases he had in san jose. he went to chicago and ny to bomb and develop his style- broke his legs jumpin off a roof and hiding in snow to get over, he never even waited for his legs to heal and for the rest of his days walked with a small limp and in pain-but you would never know that cause he wouldnt show it. he would call me every day telling me about what he was hitting and who he was meeting-i used to think he was nuts and was actually really scared for him, sometimes i didnt believe him, he said sometimes he would do twenty throws a day, and twenty AT NIGHT! i couldnt believe that at all. ok cut it short-heres my tie tales that guy used to listen to kung fu disco soundtracks in his headphones when he was bombing, some ill bruce lee movie soundtracks and shit. he one time left me a whole thirty minute message on my machine with that stuff in the background rapping.-what a nut. when he went to Nyc- he brought 60 mops filled with him, some pens, stickers, and a sweater-just about nothing else. i was painting a piece once and he rolled me up and started screaming at me at the top of his lungs because i had brushed an outline of his, but then proceded to break me off german thin tips cause he didnt want to see me outlining with stock caps, then twist rolls up and tie starts yelling at him too, llike" you fuckin never go bombin, you need to represent thr barry, i go out every night barry! i go bombing i go tie tie tie tie all over this fuckin city!, then some girl in a car rolls up to the spot, and tie tries to hook me up with her, man it was great, we made peace all together right there, but it seemed like twisto and tie didnt hit it off so great, as it would seem. the night after or so some cat that had funk with twist for some reason rolled up on tie, and this dude was huge! and tie straight said "i got twists back till the day i die!" and spit in dudes face, this dude was twice as big and twice as tall as tie, and tie took one for the team that night, and was still talkin shit on the ground from what i hear. i visit jon once a year, his parents dont remember me but i visit them infrequently at the bakery and tip a lot. great thread, love to see more flicks. Quoted post this really reminds me of him, reading this brings back memories of hanging out with him. i think i was there at that art show when that dude got in his face. but i really learned alot from bombing with him. i remember us packin two bags with about 20-30 cans each and about 5 mops each and some silver pens. he would tell me"we aint going back until this is all gone. starting at 12 in the afternoon till next morning. riding every where in the city doing throwies, tags, rooftops. too many good things to say. but i recently got that crown issue and noticed it said to be continued. i hope they put stories in the next one and a lil bit of his graff roots back in santa clara. rest in power tie one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outtacaps Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 actually is was about 15 cans and 3 mops somwhere around that number. not sure, sorry about that,memory isnt that good. wasnt tryin to exagerate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSF.krew Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 R.I.P Tie.....your name lives on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why write? Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 RIP TIE, a inspirational king to everyone, i wanna pick up that mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAES Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Stickers done by BNE [attachmentid=4755] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T=E=A=S=E Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 someone post the pik of him on the dumpster doing a throwup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Wow what a tragic story..... RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck taylor Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 in Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck taylor Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Originally posted by 138@Aug 16 2004, 12:04 PM <img src='http://www.monkeyview.net/id/357/graffiti_3/TIE.jpg'> Quoted post this is trust cma dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__ __ __ __ Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 i saved it to my comp a while ago.... i think Dlush had it. i hope i gave credit for the photo right.. if not, im sure someone can correct me. peace. RIPower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 For those of you who arent from frisco, theres this documentary thats coming out "piece by piece". Im sure some of you have heard of it. Well in a screening that they showed yesterday they had segments on both DREAM and TIE. When they were showing the TIE part, the whole room got quiet as fuck in both respect and fucking awe as they saw TIE's story being told. I thought that was pretty dope. I hope you guys will cop on this when it comes out. RIPower KING TIE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetray Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by CACashRefund@Jan 14 2005, 06:31 PM For those of you who arent from frisco, theres this documentary thats coming out "piece by piece". Im sure some of you have heard of it. Well in a screening that they showed yesterday they had segments on both DREAM and TIE. When they were showing the TIE part, the whole room got quiet as fuck in both respect and fucking awe as they saw TIE's story being told. I thought that was pretty dope. I hope you guys will cop on this when it comes out. RIPower KING TIE... Quoted post the damn roxie sold out on the 7pm show when we got up to the box office.. but for sure im getting piece by piece on dvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReckoning Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 TIE IS A SAVAGE YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchito Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 TIE 1.. SAVAGE.. RESPECT DUE...<-- NO OTHER WORDS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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