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Jessica Santillan, the illegal alien who died from a bad transplant

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by alleniverson, Feb 24, 2003.

  1. alleniverson

    alleniverson New Jack

    Joined: Sep 11, 2002 Messages: 97 Likes Received: 0
    Does anyone else find it incredibly fucked up that this girl and her mother were ILLEGAL ALIENS who paid some coyote to smuggle them here? The mother did it because her daughter had medical problems and knew she could be a parasite to the hospitals here in the US. Her mother worked here illegally and didnt even pay taxes.
    Its people like this who are the reasons health coverage and medical visits are so high. Not only that but she recieved the organs before dying Americans who were on the waiting list. Now shes going to sue Duke over this. What the fuck? I hope she doesnt get a fucking dime. She had no business being in that hospital. And she sure as fuck shouldnt have the right to sue. To add insult to injury, they wont even allow her organs to be donated now shes dead. Fucking parasites.
    Im glad shes dead.
  2. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 7, 2001 Messages: 2,955 Likes Received: 1
  3. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land,
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome;
    her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the goden door!"
  4. alleniverson

    alleniverson New Jack

    Joined: Sep 11, 2002 Messages: 97 Likes Received: 0
    So what is your position on this case in particular?

    If you like the idea of illegal aliens coming over here so much, then invite them into your house, and support them. Give them your organs. But dont try to say its ok to let them be a burden on the American taxpayer.

    There are rules to coming into this country. One of them is to get here legally. The other is to pay your fucking taxes. But since theyre hispanic youll just take their side and accuse me of racism or some other dumb shit.
  5. No, I think it's fucked and hypocritical on her part, and she shouldn't get shit.

    I just find it funny how a country that used to pride itself on being the happy haven for poor immigrants has suddenly realized that it's not such a good idea after all. What used to be "beneficial for enhancing cultural diversity" is now a "burden to the American taxpayer".

    The US is such a large and confused country. It's like those cartoons where there was a big dumb dog and a small intelligent dog, and the small dog led the way while the big dog did the brunt work, except there's no counterpart for the small intelligent dog. Beer,

    El Mamerro
  6. some pittsburgh flavor

    some pittsburgh flavor Elite Member

    Joined: Mar 31, 2001 Messages: 4,936 Likes Received: 0
    yeah, but on the moral tip...

    how can human beings be illegal?

    sure, it's kind of messed up she broke our laws so her daughter could try to live.
    this is one of those things that pulls you both ways.. i thought her mother was cool bringing her to the us; and it makes all you patriotic fools feel a little bit warmer like "aww, we're the best cause they came here for her surgery.. awww....". but here's the thing; if she really expected her daughter to live more than a few years after a heart and lung transplant she's pretty silly. mixups do happen, they're fucked up when they do, we should read labels and blood types more carefully (it is pretty hard to mix up lungs and a heart).

    so i think my point is, don't worry about them being illegal aliens. the doctors did 'accidentally' fuck up, investigations will probably go down, and that lady will probably get money because her daughter died, but she shouldn't in my eyes because it's stupid to break another country's laws - as stupid as they are - and then try to sue them for damages that occured to her because of this disregard of law.

    i dont know
  7. Giving Tree

    Giving Tree Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 26, 2001 Messages: 1,111 Likes Received: 0
    i've got one thing to say...


    i hope she gets the dick like alf.
  8. fr8lover

    fr8lover Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 22, 2000 Messages: 3,919 Likes Received: 1
    thats a good question i guess, though kind of heading off topic.

    its also an argument that will go nowhere. thats us policy, moral or not.
  9. Cracked Ass

    Cracked Ass Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 24, 2001 Messages: 7,898 Likes Received: 47
    Wishing somebody dead because they broke some immigration laws is pretty fucked up.
    But George Dubya is alleniverson's hero anyway, so there's some consistency there.
    You go, allen. Rally those Young Republicans.
  10. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    Perfect response.

    KING BLING Guest

    For one, this was an act of desperation by her mother - HER DAUGHTER WAS DYING.

    She is suing because the doctors turned off life support without her consent after being the reason she was on life support in the first place.

    Additionally the reason "they" won't let her organs be used is because they are needed for an autopsy. This was not performed until two days after she died, and would have been regardless of whether or not the mother intended to sue....

    Turn off Rush...
  12. B_As_In_Bot

    B_As_In_Bot Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 7, 2000 Messages: 3,840 Likes Received: 11
    How many of you dont approve of this woman, and her daughter by the color of their skin? And the Label "Illegal Alien".. it doesnt change anything because theyre still humans trying to live on the same planet you are. Fuck US policies.
  13. yoshy

    yoshy Member

    Joined: Jun 23, 2000 Messages: 738 Likes Received: 0
    in some really weird way, this relates to kabar's argument about owning
    a gun and doing what you need to survive.

    OBVIOUSLY when you do that you are going to affect other people.

    this girls situation is really sad. its a messed up dilema.

    i guess it begs the question, in a time of need, what would you do for
    your loved ones allen?
  14. FlamingHobo

    FlamingHobo Guest

    HOLY SHIT!LETS NOT BE HUMAN! ...what woman wouldn't want her daughter to be saved?what good mother wouldn't take extreme measures to save their child?don't be mad because she rocked the system..maybe more "americans" will taker her actions and try something new...americans..mexicans..germans..who gives a shit..they're all people..health care rates?are you fucking kidding me?its a number..some MONEY...fuck that...props for her trying to rock shit...she's only an "illegal alien" because we decided we're too good to let people come into the country..but we're free to walk around down there and do what we want..whatever...you lose...
  15. Trousersnake

    Trousersnake Junior Member

    Joined: Nov 17, 2002 Messages: 218 Likes Received: 0
    ^^^^^ I totaly agree she was just trying to save,her daughters life,you know I tthink I would try to save my own childs life if I had one ,but thats why I dont have a child because I would not be able to afford any insurance,and i dont think she had a right to sue them but who cares I dont give a shit,It aint my money she is trying to get.So what if she was an ILLEGALALIEN so was my father ,He came here to work so that he could take care of his FAmilia..We spend so much money on other useless bullshit why not ..