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8 minutes ago, Fist 666 said:

Not my first screen name, but that wasn't my point. As usual, you missed it.

You're in a memes thread lamenting the lack of thoughtful discussion. Spare me.

 

I think you might be missing the point of the thread tbh

 

Maybe it wasn't your point (lol) but you still went to check my profile bahahaha

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You're still in the news section, spare everyone in here.

 

I think you might be missing the point of CROSSFIRE tbh.

 

(edited after replies, classic move)

 

(I was trying to figure out what your og screen name was as you've been here so long, but you lurked for 11 years and never once posted in crossfire, and it only reinforced the point you missed).

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14 hours ago, Fist 666 said:

Global warming was "rebranded" as climate change as a move hoping to eliminate basic confusions as these for scientifically illiterate people. That isn't a dig at you guys, most people aren't scientifically literate without at least some college level chemistry--which is still an entry level literacy .  Most people do not seek that  out even if they do go to college because it's fucking hard, unless you're a stem major you would likely never take chem.

 

The memes you post about climate change , which I assume reflect your view about and lack of concern for it, rely on the viewer's  scientific illiteracy to have any poignancy.  (Aside from gore being an asshat and liberal hypocrisy in general). 

 

About 3% of scientists disagree with the concern for climate change as a serious threat.

 

If you were diagnosed with ass cancer would you seek out the 3 in 100 doctors who tell you you're fine and just yolo OR side with the 97 who are trying to help you fight the ass cancer and make some changes?

While most of this is true, my only problem with it is the only solution they seem to be presenting is granting more control to government agencies, and increasing taxes/government spending. It seems retarded to hand more money over to the number one carbon emitting entity in the U.S. that would never hold themselves to the same standards they would impose on the private sector. The money would be most likely reallocated towards bombs and more government consumption/CO2 emissions anyways.

 

While I agree that only a dumbass would believe that decades of CO2 pouring out of every smokestack/exhaust pipe on the planet will have zero effect on the overall atmosphere/climate. I have to disagree with every solution presented thus far by politicians who ultimately just seek more power. I mean that's what their entire careers are based on, getting more power. I just don't think handing over more power to tax is a viable solution. Those taxes wont be used for carbon reclamation, again they'll be used for more government net energy consumption AKA carbon emissions.

 

I'd like to see a legal precedent for lawsuits based on environmental damages allowed to proceed against energy producers. I mean it is an aggression against a farmer that may suffer damages due to climate change. If there were a way calculate these damages in place, then sue energy producers for the amount of environmental damage they produce, they may decide not to do it. Or to voluntarily clean up their messes via carbon reclamation, and just exploring better options. Energy prices would go up, but the way I see it we're unknowingly all subsidizing the energy sector now, via an ever so slightly reduced quality of life for most, potentially devastating to some, that keeps increasing with no end in sight. Using taxes/government to subsidize EV's, and Solar panels isn't necessary if we weren't subsidizing CO2 in the first place.

 

When you see me, and others dissing these annoying ass granola people, it's not always coming from a place of denial, or willful ignorance. Me personally, I'm coming from a perspective of wanting a realistic solution to these problems. Fuck anyone using climate change to impose Socialist/Communist levels of government control on people. That's ignorance to me, slowly choking the private sector to death isn't a viable solution.

 

The private sector, and incentives for profit are ultimately the only mechanisms we have that are able to keep the population fed. Saying otherwise is in my personal opinion, a real case of willful denial, (SociAlisM wiLL wErk tHiS TiMe). Incase any of you have missed the 20th century, every time Socialism, Communism, and National Socialism has been imposed on an otherwise free people they suffer lower qualities of life, the environment doesn't get better, and people needlessly starve in some cases.

 

TLDR, fuck anyone using a small kernel of truth, to spread a gigantic lie.

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I just bought a sweet ass diesel truck that is capable of rolling coal if you drive it like an asshole.  Fuck hippies.  They get nothing done except drawing shitty signs and standing around in working peoples' ways.

 

I'd like to get back to the political memes and not discuss politics in this thread.  If anyone thinks this can produce a worthwhile conversation I'd be happy to split these replies out into a new topic.

 

My guess, however, is that it's going to turn into a shit flinging fest.  I'm fine w/ hippies vs. bad asses though.  You guys just let me know and I'll get that done for us.

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