The Political Memes Thread (memes too spicy for Channel Zero)

[Dark_Knight]

So the rich take money out of the pockets of the common man as penalty for the government taxing them. Seems legit and not the fault of the greedy rich at all. We should bow to the rich not the government in other words. Since we have to bow to one

 

[Mercer]

6 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

So the rich take money out of the pockets of the common man

 

No, they stop putting as much in. There is no "take".

[Dark_Knight]

1 hour ago, Mercer said:

 

No, they stop putting as much in. There is no "take".

Yeah that’s the beautiful scapegoat the rich have in their favor. Cutting labor and forcing the work load on the ones left isn’t unethical at all. They won’t suffer from the taxes. The employers will. I’ll never pity the rich. 

[Mercer]

2 hours ago, Dark_Knight said:

Yeah that’s the beautiful scapegoat

 

It's not a scapegoat, you said they'd "take money" which is a false. The government is the only entity can "take" money away from anyone.

 

2 hours ago, Dark_Knight said:

 

the rich have in their favor.

 

The definition of words is not in anyone's favor. Unfortunately words having real definitions like the word "take" don't favor people that intentionally misconstrue what's happening by misusing the word. You're not employing me right now, are you "taking" something away from me? 

 

2 hours ago, Dark_Knight said:

Cutting labor and forcing the work load on the ones left isn’t unethical at all.

 

Real simple, this wouldn't improve their tax standing. Salaries are an expense for an employer, if income stays the same, and expenses are reduced it actually raises the business's tax bracket. While this might leave them with more money in the end, this isn't what we were talking about, you're bringing up an entirely different argument now even though just like your previous one, it's not valid for the exact same reason. No one person is obligated to employ, or be employed by the other. It's voluntary. Driving yourself into bankruptcy employing people you can't afford to is not ethical, it's just stupid. 

 

2 hours ago, Dark_Knight said:

They won’t suffer from the taxes. The employers will.

 

So let me get this straight, if the government says pay us this money or go to jail, and employing people is a voluntary choice, where do you think the money will go? To employee raises, new hires, or for more $75K bombs to drop on poor people making $5 a day?

 

Why do people automatically assume the Federal Government under Joe "lock em up" Biden will be using that money for good? 

 

2 hours ago, Dark_Knight said:

I’ll never pity the rich. 

 

That's good, because they don't need it, they just don't need crabs in a bucket that have given up on escaping, so they try to drag down anything higher than themselves. What's so immoral about inheriting, or earning a bunch of money. Absolutely nothing. I've pulled it off, and looking back it wasn't that hard, and I didn't have to fuck anyone over in the process. All's is takes is enough discipline to save, and invest.

 

My own perspective on this is that it's not immoral to want to hold onto your own money, at least it's way less immoral than sitting around fantasizing about what you'd do if you could forcibly seize someone else's money, even if you're using the government as the mechanism for theft.

[Dark_Knight]

If you rely on other people to make “your” money... then it’s not “your” money. It’s exploitive. Rich people has used the government and the military to their advantage since forever. Time to pay a tax for their labor. 

Not everyone is driven by the dollar. Some people want a decent wage so they can live their lives. When that’s robbed bc of greedy gollum’s of the world need to give up some of their treasure, then that’s an issue. Suck it up. The common man has to.

 

[Mercer]

48 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

If you rely on other people to make “your” money... then it’s not “your” money.

 

So if none of the money you have is actually yours, and none of my money is actually mine, then who does it belong to? Economic transactions always rely on more than one party by definition. 

 

48 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

It’s exploitive.

 

Another common linguistic fallacy Socialists used to prey on the economically illiterate. Exploit has two definitions, there's the negative one like a farmer not paying migrant workers what he said he would, knowing they can't/wont take him to court.

 

Then there's the non-negative definition of the word. One can exploit their own knowledge of the stock market to get rich, one can exploit their close proximity to their job and sleep in. One can exploit all kinds of things, like the fact an employer reliably pays them a good salary.

 

Any mutually beneficial economic transaction is exploitative by nature. I can simultaneously exploit both my neighbors abundance of sourdough bread, by exploiting my own abundance of money. If we both decide to do the transaction my neighbor is exploiting me. So technically yes, employment is exploitative both for the employer, and for the employee. Both benefit, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that unless some other nefarious activity like employee theft, wage theft is taking place. 

 

 

48 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

Rich people has used the government and the military to their advantage since forever. Time to pay a tax for their labor. 

 

This is what I'm trying to stop, but you word this as if it's the fault of every rich person. Very few rich people are actually engaged in this type of corruption. You can be mad at all rich people, and blame all rich people for this, or you could put the blame where it belongs, a government structured in a way that makes this not only possible, but the norm century after century over the entirety of human history.

 

48 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

Not everyone is driven by the dollar. Some people want a decent wage so they can live their lives.

 

So what does applauding Biden's grab for more money have to do with this? Those people in the middle east minding their own business? Those people that are forced into funding this? I agree, one should be free to live their life as they see fit, until it interfere's with mine obviously. Money really only makes certain goals more possible, but isn't central to life, or happiness. True happiness (for non-psychopath humans) comes mainly from contribution. 

 

48 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

When that’s robbed bc of greedy gollum’s of the world need to give up some of their treasure, then that’s an issue. Suck it up. The common man has to.

 

So why do you, someone who's in the top 1% globally allowed to even exist when most people on the planet are forced to live on so little. Or do you use your own income as a metric? Like OK, my level of luxury is OK, but anyone's above me is immoral. Most people of the world (suffering from economic illiteracy) are looking at you as the greedy gollum. Yet you aren't giving your position up, to live as one of the common people of earth.

[Kults]

[Mercer]

We used to call them shits nut shorts back in the day. Anything over the knee was nut. Also had nut shirts. If you lift your hands over your head and you shit came up over you pants, exposing your stomach  your nuts could fall out like that too. Gotta play it safe with the jewels, can't wear no nut shit. Dude in the background almost  knows what's up, shirt passes at least. That pedo couple in the front of the photo fail miserably though. WTF is that shit. They wouldn't have violated nut so flagrantly if Trump had twitter back then.

[Dark_Knight]

I don’t agree @Mercerbut that’s ok. The beauty of living in our country...for now.

[Mercer]

55 minutes ago, Dark_Knight said:

I don’t agree @Mercerbut that’s ok. The beauty of living in our country...for now.

 

 

I get you man, I've been on both side's tTBH. I just love upping net worth now, watching other people up theirs so much, this class hate shit feels so counterintuitive to me now. Free markets are my religion. It's like when some annoying prick that used to like death metal finds Jesus and can't shut the fuck up about it. My sincerest apologies. 

[Dark_Knight]

[Dark_Knight]

[abrasivesaint]

This one of those ones that makes me assume it wasn’t made by an Americans because of the grammar, but the  i also remember Americans are fucking terrible at grammar. Myself included. 
 

Edited April 26, 2021 by abrasivesaint

[abrasivesaint]

[Dirty_habiT]

I don't think being wealthy and being a shithead are as mutually exclusive as some people make it seem. 

[Dirty_habiT]

20 hours ago, Mercer said:

 

 

I get you man, I've been on both side's tTBH. I just love upping net worth now, watching other people up theirs so much, this class hate shit feels so counterintuitive to me now. Free markets are my religion. It's like when some annoying prick that used to like death metal finds Jesus and can't shut the fuck up about it. My sincerest apologies. 

lol sounds like Bernie having to switch to riffing on billionaires after becoming a millionaire. 
 

I agree with you btw. I think it's all about who dies with the most toys.   Not who dies with the most socks full of cash rolls. That's stupid. 

[Mercer]

[Mercer]

 

 

 

[Mercer]

I know way too many of these morons.

 

[Mercer]

13 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

I think it's all about who dies with the most toys.   Not who dies with the most socks full of cash rolls. That's stupid. 

 

 

 

[abrasivesaint]

43 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

I don't think being wealthy and being a shithead are as mutually exclusive as some people make it seem. 

I don’t disagree, i wasn’t making a statement with that one. Just thought it was funny and relevant to recent discussions. 

[Kults]

 

[Kults]

[abrasivesaint]

[Mercer]

[Dark_Knight]

[Dark_Knight]

[abrasivesaint]

3 hours ago, Dark_Knight said:

lol’d. 

[Dirty_habiT]

It's true. The police in my city have seemingly stopped giving a fuck after all the defunding police talk actually became a reality under the cuck mayor we have. 

[abrasivesaint]