pornbooth Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 true, that clip angered me a little, violence was more of what i was thinking so my thoughts were leaning far from what the hippies were doing during the vietnam war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hippies were extremely hostile and often violent... Uhhh, what?!!? In his book, Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam, Professor Jerry Lembcke (who served in Vietnam) notes that "One of the most resilient images of the Vietnam era is that of the anti-war protester - often a woman - spitting on the uniformed Veteran just off the plane. The lingering potency of this icon was evident during the Gulf War, when war supporters invoked it to discredit their opposition. Jerry Lembcke demonstrated what we know to be true, and in fact challenge any believers in this myth to straighten us out by providing the main ingredient to make myth reality - solid proof. Jerry was the first sincere scholarly researcher to show that not a single incident of this sort has been convincingly documented. Rather, the anti-war Left saw in Veterans a natural ally, and the relationship between anti-war forces and most Veterans was defined by mutual support. The entry of Vietnam Vets or any Veterans into the anti-war movement would have had the impact of suppressing such spitting incidents. That said, we challenge any believer in this myth to show documented proof (photos or news paper archives) that show any Vietnam Era or War Veteran being spit on as they return from any overseas tour during the Vietnam War. Indeed it was reported that one Soldier wrote angrily to Nixon's Vice President Spiro Agnew that the only Americans who seemed concerned about the Soldier's welfare were the anti-war activists. While Veterans were sometimes made to feel uncomfortable about their service, this sense of unease was, Lembcke argues, more often rooted in the political practices of the Right. Source PS-- the majority of people who go to college are not rich. This was also true in the sixties and seventies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 wow. tangential. i had to work today after all but we had pizza and beers for lunch. my mom was a hippie, and about as far from violent as a person can get spitting on someone, horribly hostile. but not violent and in the context of a protest against violence. that whole vietnam era was so polarized and the country was so divided..i'm not saying it was good or agreeing with what they did, but hippies were not violent doood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 one thing that i'll say about all that insane protesting against soldiers, is that we do not fuckin do that shit anymore, and that was a great silver lining. the country learned a hard, collective lesson about war from that and as someone who has been against the wars in iraq and afghanistan since the beginning, i will not now, nor have i ever, taken the issue to soldiers. my father always says that was the worst time for the country.. racism in all its forms during the civil rights movement, the riots and protests, vietnam, assassinations out the yang, and watergate. as bad as we got it, the way he talks it was worse then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 spitting on someone, horribly hostile. but not violent In alot of places spitting on someone can be charged as assault, and for good reason. Spitting on someone is 100x more horrible than punching someone in the face. I've been in more fights then I can count, beat some people half to death, and I've still only spit on a few people ever because it's that serious to me Violent may have been a bad choice for a word on my half... The whole thing about hippies that gets under my skin (hipsters like to do this too) is to that they like to do everything within their "legal" rights to provoke a violent outburst, them become shocked. You can't spit in someone's face completely unprovoked, then be surprised when they lash out at you and say "see, I told you these soldiers were animals!" THIS. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS. I've actually asked muthafuckas "Why'd you make me do this to you?" as they were nursing their wounds, brought on by incessant shit talk and other such poking and prodding of my anger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHATEU Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The whole thing about hippies that gets under my skin (hipsters like to do this too) is to that they like to do everything within their "legal" rights to provoke a violent outburst, them become shocked. You can't spit in someone's face completely unprovoked, then be surprised when they lash out at you and say "see, I told you these soldiers were animals!" They try to push the envelope with the intention of provoking violence. well put.... couldnt prop you... and not for nothing but fuck hippies.... 4eva... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 a cop in an unmarked hummer gets a snowball thrown at it and then jumps out with gun to 'taunt' the crowd is a PIG in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shittles..TasteTheAsshole Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hope this doesn't hit Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 im flying into bethlehem soon.anyone in PA know what its lookin like up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 it's very likely still snowy everywhere, BUT the roads have been salted and the major ones are all clear. rail and airport is getting back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 good.nice to know haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Shit is about to get real here in the Midwest. Could be seeing 16-20" by Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCheadle Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 flying to Detroit in a few days, can't wait to get back to the snow driving that made me move away in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Shit is about to get real here in the Midwest. Could be seeing 16-20" by Saturday. i havent been paying attention to the news but where exactly? i live in the kansas area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornbooth Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Looking like a blizzard forecast down past Wichita... Just go to weatherbug.com and enter your locale. Much better than weather.com, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 yeah i heard on the radio its sposed to snow for the next 4 days or somethng here.right now its about 40 but the weather here changes sooo quick.ill look in to that site you posted tho.always nice to know what the weathers gonna do round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 im flying into bethlehem soon.anyone in PA know what its lookin like up there? I was in Mercersburg yesterday it was pretty clear, but that's barely PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 It has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I've managed to avoid shoveling a drop of snow so far...feels good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 To be a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Unless you didn't get any snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 To be a bum. To have people who owe me money shovel my snow? Yeah, real bum like of me haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 IT'S FUCKING SNOWING IN TEXAS! what. the. fuck. but it was like 75 degrees yesterday so it's not sticking to the ground. its not even that cold outside and we're actually getting real snow, not sleet. some asshole wished for a white christmas and fucked over north texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 The storm was a bit of a doozy. Shit is ice now, which I hate worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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