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Obama: The New George Bush


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Ah no way he's worse than Bush. He was handed a huge shit sandwich by the Bush administration. If worse things happen it would be a direct consequence of the Bush admin. Unless you think free health care is worse than the recession and possible collapse of the global economic system.

I just wish this "Green Economy" would take off. Off to a rather slow start. Funds have been allocated, so now what next? I was hoping he would have a more definitive plan on the issue of the environment like Gore, but so far it just seems like he's throwing money at the problem.

 

ah hahaha green economy ... your an amature too ... and obviously a socialist too...so in you opinion will the government run the healthcare business better than the private sector ?

i say no ..and im not saying healthcare is run good either ...too many lawyers sticking there nose in everyones business ..private and public ...government is not the answer ..less lawyers is ..and by lawyers i mean government

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Neither of us are paranoid delusionals who "trust no one".

When you read the founding fathers works, you learn that you

are not to trust a govt. Ever.

 

AOD has used this quote from General George Washington a few times.

 

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

 

ill just leave this here

 

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

 

-Theodore Roosevelt

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well, complex, he's keeping ghost sites open, keeping torture as a practice (even though no good information comes from it), etc.

 

in my opinion, he's more like bush than he's not like bush.

 

also, he's destroying our economy.

 

 

 

 

He's not keeping torture, he's made it known that it's banned.

He's not destroying our economy, he's trying to save it. Infact they just came out the other day and said that the recession is technically over.

He's the complete polar opposite of Bush.

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Do you honestly believe this garbage that comes out of your mouth, or are you just trolling at this point?

 

Get your head out of your ass Casek. You're sounding more and more like a schizophrenic nut these days.

 

 

There's no way in hell that I'm going to bother with the rest of this thread.

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Torture isn't banned.

 

OBAMA: Mark Knoller?

 

KNOLLER: Thank you, sir. Let me follow up, if I may, on [the previous] question. Did you read the documents recently referred to by former Vice President Cheney and others saying that the use of so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" not only protected the nation but saved lives? And if part of the United States were under imminent threat, could you envision yourself ever authorizing the use of those enhanced interrogation techniques?

 

OBAMA: I have read the documents. Now they have not been officially declassified and released. And so I don't want to go to the details of them. But here's what I can tell you, that the public reports and the public justifications for these techniques, which is that we got information from these individuals that were subjected to these techniques, doesn't answer the core question.

 

Which is, could we have gotten that same information without resorting to these techniques? And it doesn't answer the broader question, are we safer as a consequence of having used these techniques?

 

So when I made the decision to release these memos and when I made the decision to bar these practices, this was based on consultation with my entire national security team, and based on my understanding that ultimately I will be judged as commander-in-chief on how safe I'm keeping the American people.

 

That's the responsibility I wake up with and it's the responsibility I go to sleep with. And so I will do whatever is required to keep the American people safe. But I am absolutely convinced that the best way I can do that is to make sure that we are not taking short cuts that undermine who we are.

 

And there have been no circumstances during the course of this first 100 days in which I have seen information that would make me second guess the decision that I have made. OK?

 

 

 

He "will do whatever is required".

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What? You just took that sentence out of context. Obama says, right in that quote, that he "made the decision to bar these practices." He then says that he is "absolutely convinced" that the best way to keep the country safe is to "make sure that we are not taking short cuts that undermine who we are," i.e. to make sure we do not use torture. Reasonably clear language there. I don't really see anything between the lines suggesting otherwise.

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1 dollar says you'll respond to me.

 

casek is right.

obama is more like bush, than not.

 

so, when is he pulling troops from overseas like he said?

he is the anti war candidate right?

to bad he is increasing the war in 'stan...

 

eh, who would of thought? a politician lying.

 

 

 

You're an idiot.

Obama is already pulling troops out of Iraq.

He's beefing up the war in Afghanistan, yes, just like he promised during his campaign you dumb fuck.

That was actually one of his campaign promises, to end the war in Iraq as soon as possible, and beef up in Afghanistan (the war we were supposed to be concentrating on).

You wouldn't know anything about that though, cause I'm sure you had your head up Ron Pauls ass this entire past election to the point where you were (like Casek) completely removed from reality and what the fuck was/is going on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's your dollar.

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He "will do whatever is required".

 

 

 

Hey jackass, the very next sentence says " But I am absolutely convinced that the best way I can do that is to make sure that we are not taking short cuts that undermine who we are."

 

You have to be trolling at this point, when the shit that you post clearly says the opposite of what you claim it does. :lol:

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1 dollar says you'll respond to me.

 

casek is right.

obama is more like bush, than not.

 

so, when is he pulling troops from overseas like he said?

he is the anti war candidate right?

to bad he is increasing the war in 'stan...

 

eh, who would of thought? a politician lying.

 

 

He promised to pull down from Iraq and concentrate on Afghanistan which is exactly what he did. Unfortunately he's gotta smarten up and leave both countries to deal with their own shit.

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uh because the bearded piece of shit is still in that place, and until we find a body or catch him. we should bomb the fuck out of that place. lets all just forget the people who died that day and let osama live a nice long life.

 

(im not coming at you, even though it sounds like i am.) politics just are just insane and i get worked up about it.

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