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Finally the wait is over!

 

You guys need to get this. Should be out early Spring 2011. There are gons of great shots in here, along with great stories, and quotes!

 

http://www.amazon.com/Platform-Subway-Graffiti-1983-1989/dp/0764337238/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1290108270&sr=8-2

 

LOOKING 4WARD TO SEEING THIS BOOK A GREAT ERA IN NY SUBWAY GRAFF...

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page - i totally understand and agree. the one regret i have about this whole thing is that fools have to pay a grip for it. believe me, if i had a better way to do it that would have made it more affordable for everyone (including me, i had to order about 12 copies just through proofreading and whatnot) then we wouldnt even be having this discussion. However, the few publishers i stepped to in the beginning were not into it. didnt think there was enough of what people wanted to see. one well known publisher even told me it was too much like subway art. from a business standpoint, i get that and understand. if i was a publisher investing 10-15k into a book, i need to be convinced i could move ALL of them and make a profit - and the ones i approached were not convinced. maybe my pitch wasnt good enough, maybe i wasnt persistent enough, maybe i just didnt know the right people. whatever the case, i did know is there were ppl out there who DID want to see and learn about this shit. so it was with that alone that i decided to self publish with blurb. if i had a publishing deal tho, i could have made a book 3X the size - and it would cost less. the book in that photo is a very early version too btw. rest assured, there are still lots of ppl out there with extensive collections and knowledge (including yourself). hopefully, publishers will see what i have done and reconsider the idea that ALL graff books should be poorly written well designed neo fag street art books - then again, maybe, thats what the masses want to see...in the words of Ed Koch..time will tell.

 

I have just received Steel Wheels 1986 - 1997.

As said before on this thread, this is definately a worthwhile purchase..

 

That said, check this site out:

http://24flinching.com/word/headline/subway-lifeblood/

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Hahah I saw that some girl I know who's writing a paper on hip hop or whatever (in university) was watching Style Wars earlier today, and she just sent me a text asking why Cap is "such a superdouche." Talk about a hard to explain situation, I'm a young gun from Chicago but this thread keeps me going, much respect to all the heads, kings, and legends in here.

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Hahah I saw that some girl I know who's writing a paper on hip hop or whatever (in university) was watching Style Wars earlier today, and she just sent me a text asking why Cap is "such a superdouche." Talk about a hard to explain situation, I'm a young gun from Chicago but this thread keeps me going, much respect to all the heads, kings, and legends in here.

 

tell your freind thats doing a paper that there is more about Cap then style wars. i only wish that someone would come out and say once and for all why cap did what he did.

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tell your freind thats doing a paper that there is more about Cap then style wars. i only wish that someone would come out and say once and for all why cap did what he did.

 

 

Why did Cap set out to destroy all lines?

 

Anyone know of a CAP interview where he goes into details? Style Wars paints him as a stone cold racist (and a bit of a psychopath), but those who know also know that there has always been tension between ethnic races regarding the so-called ownership of graff (a preposterous idea, but let's go with it). Some argue that it is completely an invention of black subculture, but where does that put people like Taki and Phil T. Greek?

 

Ok, so Style Wars painted him a racist, his more recent film exposure (e.g., Style Wars redux, bonus footage) seems to show that he is at ease with anyone, regardless of ethnicity. So what's the full story?

 

Since he started his crusade to destroy all lines, I always assumed CAP was just on a joy ride, nothing else. So what was the deep dark ulterior motive behind his throwups? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Neat collection of Dondi stuff, although the person who posted it is claiming copyright over things they don't own.

 

 

You see you would be COMPLETELY WRONG

they DO OWN all of those flix as that is a flickr account of Mike White AKA Dondi's Brother

i'm sure he has worked things out with Martha and Henry as to copyrights on those photos

Peep the whole website http://www.dondiciakings.com/ which has links to that flickr account

 

Luca i believe is dondi's mothers name just in case you were wondering

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as for the CAP issue

no one stepped to him back then

no one steps to him now

fuck what you heard

he did what he had to do

aint no ones business but those involved and they know why he did what he did

 

alot of sideline chatter up in here

NOW GO TELL THAT.

 

people wish they had the heart Cap has

he went all out and hard

niggas know believe me niggas know

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