Ko SprueOne Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Re: watch and listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006-1984 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Shhh... they're listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/08/AR2007100801434.html?sub=AR Dragonfly or Insect Spy? Scientists at Work on Robobugs. By Rick Weiss Vanessa Alarcon saw them while working at an antiwar rally in Lafayette Square last month. "I heard someone say, 'Oh my god, look at those,' " the college senior from New York recalled. "I look up and I'm like, 'What the hell is that?' They looked kind of like dragonflies or little helicopters. But I mean, those are not insects." Out in the crowd, Bernard Crane saw them, too. "I'd never seen anything like it in my life," the Washington lawyer said. "They were large for dragonflies. I thought, 'Is that mechanical, or is that alive?' " That is just one of the questions hovering over a handful of similar sightings at political events in Washington and New York. Some suspect the insectlike drones are high-tech surveillance tools, perhaps deployed by the Department of Homeland Security. Others think they are, well, dragonflies -- an ancient order of insects that even biologists concede look about as robotic as a living creature can look. No agency admits to having deployed insect-size spy drones. But a number of U.S. government and private entities acknowledge they are trying. Some federally funded teams are even growing live insects with computer chips in them, with the goal of mounting spyware on their bodies and controlling their flight muscles remotely. The robobugs could follow suspects, guide missiles to targets or navigate the crannies of collapsed buildings to find survivors. The technical challenges of creating robotic insects are daunting, and most experts doubt that fully working models exist yet. "If you find something, let me know," said Gary Anderson of the Defense Department's Rapid Reaction Technology Office. But the CIA secretly developed a simple dragonfly snooper as long ago as the 1970s. And given recent advances, even skeptics say there is always a chance that some agency has quietly managed to make something operational. "America can be pretty sneaky," said Tom Ehrhard, a retired Air Force colonel and expert in unmanned aerial vehicles who is now at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a nonprofit Washington-based research institute. ...article continues.... for login http://www.bugmenot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko SprueOne Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I've read about these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/multimedia/2007/10/gallery_uavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 if this insect shit becomes popular in my area i will smash every fucking flying thing i see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 yeah, khed... smash em, Doooooood. (said in my best rah-dood voice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 i dont know what a rah dude is but are you saying you wouldnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 oh, my bad, you aren't from where I'm from...there's lots of rah doods there.. anyway, yeah, I'd smash em. That was an encouragement to SMASH EM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 at&t insider...this will blow your mind http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004662.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some1 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 SOOOO Glad somebody else saw this. Its so fucked up everyday its something new everyday canada or europe is looking better and better. I mean once our dollar plummets enough I think I am going to say goodbye... Extreme change is needed now!!! RON PAUL '08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 there's an npr interview with him, too. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16088947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some1 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yea thats where I heard it this morning on the way to work. I was furious I seriously am not a fan of this country anymore all they do is lie to us. Take power away from washington and give it back to the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yea thats where I heard it this morning on the way to work. I was furious I seriously am not a fan of this country anymore all they do is lie to us. Take power away from washington and give it back to the states. agreed. we all need to be pretty pissed. pitchforks and torches time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some1 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 That is what it would take but then it would never happen. Our government wouldnt think twice to open fire on its own people. I mean shit look at iraq sending our troops to die. When can we come out? When will we know when we are finished? Its like the gov. is just like "eh...we'll let you know..." Thats the scariest part about it. If there was a movement put forth the gov. would just throw people into some secret prison for the rest of their lives and say they are terrorists. When the only thing they are terrorizing is the way the gov. is run right now. When in reality they are just exercising their rights given to them by the constitution. Another reason why I like Ron Paul he actually realizes what the constitution was put in place for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 That is what it would take but then it would never happen. Our government wouldnt think twice to open fire on its own people. I mean shit look at iraq sending our troops to die. When can we come out? When will we know when we are finished? Its like the gov. is just like "eh...we'll let you know..." Thats the scariest part about it. If there was a movement put forth the gov. would just throw people into some secret prison for the rest of their lives and say they are terrorists. When the only thing they are terrorizing is the way the gov. is run right now. When in reality they are just exercising their rights given to them by the constitution. Another reason why I like Ron Paul he actually realizes what the constitution was put in place for. you do realize that if shit ever popped off, the citizens outnumber the troops...and we have more guns...they have more powerful weapons, but we ahve more people. nad most of the military people i know are aware of the oath they took to protect us from invaders foreign and domestic....even if the domestic is our own govt. but we shouldn't think about things like that, it only makes it harder to think rationally. a peaceful revolution would be great, but... ronpaul2008.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some1 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 True. I think this at&t has been the thing that crossed the line and is going to make me an active ron paul supporter. I've been weary of everything still listening to all sides but this solidified my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 excellent. he needs all the support he can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond encrusted jesus Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/encrypted-e-mai.html http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 nice post casek. Unfortunately this is nothing new and shit has been happening for decades. Isn;t this exactly the same as ECHELON? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 nice post casek. Unfortunately this is nothing new and shit has been happening for decades. Isn;t this exactly the same as ECHELON? echelon is worldwide, i think this is just NSA abusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 actually on this topic... i just went to a forum about civil liberties post september 11th in america.... there were a few speakers, one of them was a translator in iraq, working with the nsa... i got to speak with him for a while afterwards, and i was honestly amazed at some of the things he was able to educate me about... They really do watch and listen... and wasn't echelon what they used in the 70's or is that the new one... i can never seem to remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 actually on this topic... i just went to a forum about civil liberties post september 11th in america.... there were a few speakers, one of them was a translator in iraq, working with the nsa... i got to speak with him for a while afterwards, and i was honestly amazed at some of the things he was able to educate me about... They really do watch and listen... and wasn't echelon what they used in the 70's or is that the new one... i can never seem to remember... it's been around for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond encrusted jesus Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 bump this thread... ''Michelin, which manufactures 800,000 tires a day, is going to insert RFID tags into its tires. The tag will store a unique number for each tire, a number that will be associated with the car's VIN (Vehicle Identification Number). Good for Michelin, and car manufacturers, and fighting crime. Potentially bad for you. Who will assure your privacy? Do you really want your car's tires broadcasting your every move?'' ''Right now, you can buy a hammer, a pair of jeans, or a razor blade with anonymity. With RFID tags, that may be a thing of the past. Some manufacturers are planning to tag just the packaging, but others will also tag their products. There is no law requiring a label indicating that an RFID chip is in a product. Once you buy your RFID-tagged jeans at The Gap with RFID-tagged money, walk out of the store wearing RFID-tagged shoes, and get into your car with its RFID-tagged tires, you could be tracked anywhere you travel.'' http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 dam that michelin tire thing is fucking scary... I think my school has rfid chips inside our school ids... I need to build a reader to check that out... but they also run a key logger on all computers, and can access everything you ever did when on that computer... the thing is they don't require you to login... but they do require you to put your id on a certain spot... which leads me to believe it has a rfid chip in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond encrusted jesus Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 microwave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Dumielle Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Reading this thread and some of the stuff on the survivalism thread makes me think of the movie red dawn. Although in the movie we were taken over by russia, some of these issues give me the same feelings of confinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Reading this thread and some of the stuff on the survivalism thread makes me think of the movie red dawn. Although in the movie we were taken over by russia, some of these issues give me the same feelings of confinement. it's all in the same line of thinking. communism/fascism. we've got a bunch of those types at the top right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko SprueOne Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Reading this thread and some of the stuff on the survivalism thread makes me think of the movie red dawn. Although in the movie we were taken over by russia, some of these issues give me the same feelings of confinement. Red Dawn is a great movie. I bought one DVD. Very parallel to the US occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq currently. Just reverse rolls hahaha fuckin bullets and money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2003/05/58909 new darpa project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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