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The Anti-War on Iraq thread

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Why are you against the war?

 

The US has provided ample amount of information which shows Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction. I think alot of the anti-war people just like having something to complain about, and would never be happy with any type of military and/or government. I think deep down you wish you were a part of whole hippie generation and are finding any excuse to recreate it.

 

Fuck Iraq.

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Originally posted by alleniverson

Why are you against the war?

The US has provided ample amount of information which shows Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction.

 

Well, it appears to me that USA has plenty weapons of mass destruction too, but I dont see that as any reason for going to war against USA.

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Originally posted by Europe

Well, it appears to me that USA has plenty weapons of mass destruction too, but I dont see that as any reason for going to war against USA.

 

Alot of people find the threat of USA's global domination through military force to be more than enough reason for war against USA.

At what point do you feel a war is necessary? Iraq signed a treaty that they would not produce or harbor any weapons of mass destruction. They agreed to it. And now they want to go back on their word, and be secretive about what theyre up to.

If we wait until we're actually under attack from nuclear weapons we could lose millions of American lives unneccesarily.

 

In war and in life, sometimes you gotta strike first to protect yourself.

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yeah, and oil has nthing to do with it

and speaking of treaties, thin about all the treaties that Bush through out the window when got the white house.

And if Irak is so bad, why not take down north korea are while you at it? Seems to me like they have broken some seroius treaies as well...FUCK BUSH

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This war is avoidable. The US has turned its head (and helped fund) for years as Saddam has slaughtered his own people and grown to a Stalinesque figure. Why go to war now? Why Iraq when the other 2/3s of the "Axis of Evil" is in the process of creating nuclear weapons and/or has announced their intentions to do so? (N. Korea already has 'em; Iran announced they are beginning a nuclear program).

 

When the entire Middle East (and much of the world) already has a strong anti-American sentiment pervading their entire society, why increase that animosity by forcing war when much of the world clearly wants it avoided? The Bush administration is ensuring future generations of Americans that there will be plenty of people out there that hate us - more so than now. If the government wants to do something about terrorism, why don't they think beyond next year? This global domination kick we're on isn't fucking healthy.

 

Furthermore, I, like many others, feel as though this war is for the wrong reasons - namely hegemony, oil, and retribution.

 

War should be the final option.

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Originally posted by alleniverson

 

The US has provided ample amount of information which shows Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction.

 

 

What information?! Powell gave an entire presentation on the matter to the UN and nothing conclusive was proven! The UN arms inspectors haven't found anything, either. Meanwhile, Ari promises evidence on a daily basis.

 

I, nor the rest of the world, am not convinced. Unless you're watching Fox News 24-7, I don't see how you're convinced either.

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Originally posted by chester

yeah, and oil has nthing to do with it

and speaking of treaties, thin about all the treaties that Bush through out the window when got the white house.

And if Irak is so bad, why not take down north korea are while you at it? Seems to me like they have broken some seroius treaies as well...FUCK BUSH

 

please be specific

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fuck a war. the geto boys said so, and i listen to what bushwick bill says....but seriously on the real, the way theyre going abotu trying to make it look like this war could still be avoided is actually funny, in a completely sad, unfunny way. everyday i get more ashamed of being a citizen of this country. and its just sad becasue it started with such good intentions and really did stand for something up until about 60 years ago. and anyone who says love it or leave it, fuck you. its not easy to become a citizen of another country. if there was a war and canada extended citizenship to americans fleeing i would def go there.

 

the us is going to bbe attacked again on our own soil, its sad, but pretty much everyone is warning about it. im not about to let myself die of small pox because the us has a small dick complex.

 

this is really jumbledand random..i just woke up and cant think straight yet.

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Originally posted by Poop Man Bob

I, nor the rest of the world, am not convinced.

 

I like how you have chosen to speak on behalf of 'the rest of the world'.

Lots of people are for the war, so your statement is inaccuarate.

 

You can not just sit back and not do anything because youre afraid of possible retaliation. Doing that, you will never accomplish anything.

Heres an example..You see some gangbanger and hes by himself at a party talking with your sister. Your sister turns him down for a date and the guy hits her. Do you fight the guy or just not do anything because youre afraid he'll get his boys against you?

Theres not a real clear cut answer I guess. But personally Id fight him and worry about the retaliation later.

 

In a strange sense, thats kinda what youre talking about concerning the possible war. You think we shouldnt do anything to stop possible nuclear attacks on America and/or other parts of the world simply because other people will 'hate us'. Thats a weak argument and doesnt hold any water.

 

If you dont like the war, dont fight in it. Simple as that. I respect your right to protest. You can protest and hold up signs until your arms fall off. More power to ya, express your views. But personally I think this war is necessary and so do alot of other people, so think twice before you speak on behalf of the rest of the world.

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all the assholes like this deserve to blow themselves up....so i guess i could say yeah i am for war.....and nascar

 

 

 

Originally posted by alleniverson

I like how you have chosen to speak on behalf of 'the rest of the world'.

Lots of people are for the war, so your statement is inaccuarate.

 

You can not just sit back and not do anything because youre afraid of possible retaliation. Doing that, you will never accomplish anything.

Heres an example..You see some gangbanger and hes by himself at a party talking with your sister. Your sister turns him down for a date and the guy hits her. Do you fight the guy or just not do anything because youre afraid he'll get his boys against you?

Theres not a real clear cut answer I guess. But personally Id fight him and worry about the retaliation later.

 

In a strange sense, thats kinda what youre talking about concerning the possible war. You think we shouldnt do anything to stop possible nuclear attacks on America and/or other parts of the world simply because other people will 'hate us'. Thats a weak argument and doesnt hold any water.

 

If you dont like the war, dont fight in it. Simple as that. I respect your right to protest. You can protest and hold up signs until your arms fall off. More power to ya, express your views. But personally I think this war is necessary and so do alot of other people, so think twice before you speak on behalf of the rest of the world.

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If the USA go over and fights Iraq, which they probaly will do no matter what, do you then think that

 

a. The USA gets more enemies?

b. The USA gets more allies?

 

Right now the allies are already leaving the USA to their own business and there is no chance in hell that a war will make the USA more popular in the MiddleEast, muslim-ruled countries or peaceloving nations.

 

And like Poop Man siad, nobody is convinced by the "evidence" the USA claims to have. But I guess that doesnt matter to some people that knows better than the rest of the world.

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The world would be a better place without war

but the government sucks... let them money hungry

ho's do what they want, because they act like

you have an opinion in what will happen... but they dont

give 2shits about what you have to say....

 

just keep it real nigga!

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Originally posted by alleniverson

Heres an example..You see some gangbanger and hes by himself at a party talking with your sister. Your sister turns him down for a date and the guy hits her. Do you fight the guy or just not do anything because youre afraid he'll get his boys against you?

Theres not a real clear cut answer I guess. But personally Id fight him and worry about the retaliation later.

 

What a horrible analogy...Who is our little sister? Iraq hasn't done anything to any other country, so basically we're gonna fight the gangbanger just because there's the possibility that he could hit our sister. That's just not how things are supposed to work.

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i respect everyones opinions on this issue, BUT. i WAS anti war before i had to do some serious research on the topic for a debate. so untill you guys (and the millions who are also protesting) hit the books in a serious way, not just some google searches you are playing yourself. straight up. you may not want to hear it, but its true. sad fact is people will die, how many is the question. and YES i have family in the military righ tnow. so yeahhhhhhhhhh

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Theres no point in arguing about this issue here because its almost impossible to change ppls point of view

 

And yes, no war

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Originally posted by woo woo woo

What a horrible analogy...Who is our little sister? Iraq hasn't done anything to any other country, so basically we're gonna fight the gangbanger just because there's the possibility that he could hit our sister. That's just not how things are supposed to work.

 

Fuck it, it was a bad analogy. But now Europe has taken up speaking for 'the rest of the world'. If any of those people had jobs or something productive to do they wouldnt have time to stand around and recreate the 60s with their stupid signs. Why dont you go out and do something? Fuck if you believe that strongly you can go over to Iraq and fight against America. John Walker is someone I respect. Protesting fucks like this, I do not. Actually put your ass on the front line. If youre American, at the very least you could go to another country, you know your tax dollars fund the war, right?

 

And all of you are the same ones who complain about 9/11 and say the govt should have known and stopped them before it happened, etc. Thats what theyre trying to do here.

 

I know its all the rage among alot of you to be anti-whateverthegovernmentisdoing and it makes you seem ultra-smart that you dont 'believe the lies of the media and government', so someone like me who believes differently must be an idiot. Honestly, when is the last time any of you liked something the government did? Ill bet it was sometime during the Clinton administration since he seems to be the only president to be somewhat liked by the anti-everything folks.

And by the way, Clinton was a great president, but I dont remember too much protesting when he bombed the supposed 'weapons factory' in Sudan.

 

Keep holding up those signs..I still see arms.

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Originally posted by alleniverson

But now Europe has taken up speaking for 'the rest of the world'. If any of those people had jobs or something productive to do they wouldnt have time to stand around and recreate the 60s with their stupid signs.

 

Its a fucking Saturday man, people have their weekends!

 

Your points and analogies are so played... Youre like a grumpy old man telling young poeple to get haircuts and jobs, get over it.

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