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Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth yup. Sorry to seem so oppositional Luke, just been doing a lot of reading lately. As far as math and truth though. I say get into some number theory and maybe a little bit of analytic logic before you decide how arbitrary numbers are. You may find that the application of numbers may seem arbitrary, but numbers themselves are pretty solid. Sure you have your peculiarities like 0 and infinity, but those extremes account for such amazing things. I feel like Golden Geometry is a pretty cool way to look for some sort of natural support for the validity of numbers. Anywho, rabble rabble fribble frabble...blah blah blah...Mam's check your pm's

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth I responded to Luke, I wanted to clear up somethings that were said. It's long, but I hope a couple people read it. I think its pretty cool that people are thinking about this stuff, even if a little bit off. Read on if ya like (I've seperated his comments from mine as black and red, respectively). i doubt anyone will read this.

well, you know you have to come out of the woods sometime. i mean seven hours drinking, and then you gotta do something with the period before you pass out.

that may be true, but...well its true.

obviously that aint what the kid is lookin for.

edit cus the picture dissappeared.

mod x and i have a pretty fun conversation going in the nature thread. its a lil disjointed but its cool.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth mod x- it's interesting to see someone i have no other interaction with on a very very similar train of thought. anywho, i have a couple replies to structure of your three propositions. First, I agree that there is a smaller level of free will on a larger societal level. However, I think it comes from a different origin other than being intrinsic to humanity. I think a lot of it is because there are small amounts of people who are concerned with issues of knowledge (philosophy) and those people are who constructed things as they are now. I think anyone who has taken a simple political philosophy class or has read any of the seminal works on the subject will find that there are very easy and striking examples of every major concept presented within those works. One of those specifically speaks to this idea well, On Liberty. J.S. Mill, tears shit apart. He pretty much says that we should cultivate individualism and natural progression within humanity as to cultivate genius within the culture. Not that all people are geniuses, but to refine the process as to increase the incedence of genius within a society. He also ascribes that genius is what drives society, and I am inclined to agree. Be it an empirical genius as with our current technological revolution or within some other study. Therefor, I contend that while individuals have a low sense of progressive efficacy towards society as a whole, there are those within societies who do have that level of influence and use it accordingly. And it is those people with whom philosophers are concerned with communicating. Your statement about people giving themselves too much credit, is perfect. Yes too much credit is given to the individual as far as thinking they can influence the future that society is progressing towards, but credit is surely due to those leading the individual there. I think this is where we begin to see things differently: My reading of you is that society progresses on its own due to its internal influences, without, nor necessitated by any level of efficacy presented to the individual. Is that correct? Have you read any feminist theory? As bullshit as I find the content, some of the larger concepts are interesting. I suppose its just a rehashing of postmodernism into social theory, but hey, what isn't these days. I personally would like to believe that there is a small group of people that are helping structure the world. If not sitting at some round table together, in some sort of collaborative way. I think they are the think tanks and consulting firms that tell coporations what to do. It's those that do the R&D for those corporations. These people have read all the philosophers and they use it to structure society as they see fit for the profit. I don't really know if I think they are wrong, but I sure as hell want to be on the same level. blah... keg hunt makes the brain tired. i have more later.

i personally like crossfire. especially the nature of the creator thread, but not many people show up in it.

yeah, a lot of schools have been adopting other evaluative options. such as princeton review's own financial aid supplement that i have to fill out every year. instead of being based on soley assets, as the outdated FAFSA structure is, it is based on assets and costs that arent possible to account for within FAFSA. Plus it is always possible to send a supplemental letter along with your financial aid application that lays out your own personal costs. Anything that shows how much money your school should give you to keep you there is clutch.

got a joint on ya? be a lot cooler if you did.

that was fun. last night i was drunk, and a friend that studies psychology and cognitive science had me doing tests online to see where my racial disposition lies. there are some crazy set ups that test reaction time on associative pathways that compare racial identification with violence. i'll try and find the link for the lists of tests for people to play with if they want.

i hope you make the hand motion too smart.

fuck a fifteen. last year there was 27. a few less this year i think.

all i had left to say was: talk to your parents getting them involved will help alleviate pressure and bring new resources to help you. pull strings when you can when i was applying to schools, if a teacher of mine was from a school i was applying to, I would have them write my specific letter of rec for that school. i also had a family friend that worked at my school's administration for a time, and wrote my letter of rec for the school i'm at now. stay calm just be patient and be logical with your choices and things will be ok. worrying about how things will get done or just the overall outcome of things doesn't help the process, just makes your life suck. MAKE SURE YOUR FAFSA IS DONE CORRECTLY AND ON TIME no one in this thread really talked about financial aid, but get acquainted with that quickly. do a little research into the process. what is necessary from your parents as far as tax information is concerned, or if your applying for aid on your own. this will be one of the most helpful things to understand and know when you are in college, it will keep you there and keep your after graduation costs low, eg managing school loans. DO YOUR RESEARCH i can't stress this enough. read some books, read online, and just talk to people about it. youll learn a lot if you just ask people things. edit cus i remembered to add somethin...

damnit, i had so much more written. fuck this five minute edit shit. lemme type out the rest.

like everyone else im gonna go ahead and talk about getting into college. i feel like college is just like any other position you would be applying for, you have to sell yourself. read a book or two on writing college entrance essays, it helps. one of my favorite essays i have ever written was an entrance essay to northwestern. i didnt get in, but thats cus i liked having a full spectrum of grades in highschool. pay attention to how the general feel of college entrances are going. read a lot of us news reviews on schools and do research into what schools you feel are possible for you. once you have an idea of where you would like to go, you can then figure out exactly what you need to do to make yourself available and presentable to those schools. if a school is focused on engeneering, talk a lot about any science experiences youve had. if your required to submit a previous work from a class, present one which is relevant to the reason your applying to said school. a little patience and calm rationale will get you into a college in this country. there are so many. dont ever think you don't have options as far as continued education. as far as grades are concerned, they matter. to an extent. you can compensate for not having great grades, but you better be good at it. i had horrible grades in highschool, tests saved my ass. along with teachers willing to let me do work on my own timetables, but i did a lot of other shit to compare. i was on the school's academic decathlon team (nerdlifeferreal), competing against other C students. there is no comparison, however, to being able to say to a college that you are a smart kid and that they can tell through looking at your grades. i wasn't able to do that, so i tried to make it work other ways.

i like how no one has discussed the harlequin fetus up there...that shits real. and creepy.

fuck an emu. i was drinking next to a keg, all day. for jesus.

iron the shirt indeed. and when your done with that, get to the fuckin dishes. and those are clean. (theshoes)

thats a nice picture ya got there. i believe we can be friends. grilling=best food ever. i got up a couple days ago round one in the afternoon. realized i had nothing to do but grill up some breakfast. stood in the beautiful outdoors, drank my forty and had a couple hot dogs. good day.

that shit is rediculous. i dont even know how to feel about that. murika

judge mathis is the shit. and fuck you for not watching mash. hawkeye is pissed.

orrly?

one time i got to thinkin about vending machines. and if there was a vending machine that dispensed other vending machines. that would be one big fucking vending machine. cheers to easter and all those that participated to make jesus rise. through our drinking. and kegs.