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Home Depot Anarchy?

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by boxcarwilly, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 8, 2000 Messages: 1,288 Likes Received: 0
    Seeing as I know we are all big fans of Home Dee, I am an even bigger fan now that they have stopped allowing our friends back at the good ole Propaganda Mill/War Machine from purchasing nails and paint. In fact it makes me even happier than a good night of painting, and we all know that doesn't happen much so...
    the only thing that could make Home Depot a better choice of favorite businesses for 2002 would be a refusal to tax customers thus really flipping off the Federales.
    There is a lot of speculation as to why, a "plausible" reason from an inside source at corporate said, if the government spends a certain amount then HD becomes sub-contractors, thus submitting them to rules and regs in that field, ie. stocking things for government use and government use only. Personally I feel there is a lot more to it than that. Hoping that Home Dee is for the cause and not into a government that lies to its own people, and kills babies... but thats just me and I'm clinically absolved of normalcy.

    Home Depot stops doing business with federal government By Andrew Schneider Of The Post-Dispatch 2002, St. Louis Post-Dispatch 06/16/2002
    Home Depot Inc., the nation's largest hardware and home-improvement chain, has told its 1,400 stores not to do business with the U.S. government or its representatives.
    The Post-Dispatch checked with managers at 38 stores in 11 states. All but two said they had received instructions from Home Depot's corporate headquarters this month not to take government credit cards, purchase orders or even cash if the items are being used by the federal government.
    "Engaging in business practices with the federal government is not a strategic focus of the Home Depot," company spokesman Tom Gray said. "The Home Depot is not and does not plan to become a federal contractor or subcontractor."
    When asked what the statement meant and what it had to do with purchases by an FBI agent in St. Louis or an Environmental Protection Agency investigator in Seattle or a supply sergeant for an Army Reserve unit in Ohio, Gray declined to comment, other than to say it's an old policy.
    But the store managers contacted said they received the policy within the last couple of weeks.
    Responding to an e-mail request for clarification, Gray said the refusal to sell to the government was "a business decision based upon the company's strategic direction."
    The General Services Administration, the government's quartermaster, just learned of the policy.
    "I was contacted by the Department of Defense last week, and they said that some of their people were stopped from making purchases at Home Depot," Susan McIver, director of the GSA's Services Acquisition Center, said Friday.
    "Home Depot has not contacted us, so I've got no idea what their problem is. We are checking with the other federal agencies to see what they are encountering and then will call the company."
    As of April, 384,520 government employees were using "GSA Smart Pay" cards for purchases other than travel or fleet operations, McIver said. Congress approved use of the cards to reduce paperwork and to streamline the paying of merchants.
    "Use of the cards is mandatory for purchases under $2,500," she said, adding that last year, $3.7 billion was charged to the cards, which are backed by Visa and MasterCard.
    McIver called Home Depot's actions "puzzling."
    "This is the first company I've ever heard of establishing a policy of not doing business with the federal government. I find it hard to understand," she said.
    She described a continuous stream of calls to her office each day from businesses eager to sell to the government.
    Most of Home Depot's managers interviewed by the Post-Dispatch shared the confusion. All the managers contacted declined to be quoted, but most said they didn't know what was behind the company's refusal to sell to the federal government.
    Some, especially those near military bases and large federal complexes, said the policy would cost Home Depot a significant amount of money, but they would make no estimates of how much.
    One Home Depot associate at a store in San Diego said, "It feels weird telling some kid in uniform that I can't sell him 10 gallons of paint because we don't do business with the government."
    The notification that Home Depot sent from its Atlanta headquarters to its stores offers little explanation of why the decision was made.
    But the document, which was obtained by the Post-Dispatch, offers elaborate detail on how the policy is supposed to be implemented:
    - Under one scenario, a customer wants to buy 3,000 light bulbs and asks that the product be delivered to a military base. "That transaction should not be processed," the document says.
    - Another scenario describes a person trying to purchase lumber and presenting a purchase order listed to the GSA. "This transaction cannot be processed," the document says.
    OoA third scenario uses a customer who pays cash and asks Home Depot to deliver the purchase to a federal address. The customer is told no, and he asks to rent a Home Depot truck. "Since you are aware that the transaction is for the federal government, you cannot process it," the document says.
    If store personnel are questioned by customers, the document advises, they should respond that "our focus is directed at do-it-yourselfers and private contractors" and "this has always been our policy."
    The notification has a section that says commercial credit-card customers will receive a notice with their June bill that purchases could not be made "that would cause the company to be covered by or responsible in any way for compliance with" three federal laws or executive orders:
    Executive Order 11246 of 1965, which bans discrimination against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin.
    - Section 503 and Section 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which requires affirmative action and prohibits employment discrimination by federal government contractors and subcontractors.
    - The Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974, which requires that anyone doing business worth $25,000 or more with the federal government must take affirmative action to hire and to promote qualified targeted veterans, including special disabled veterans, veterans of the Vietnam era, and any other veterans who served on active duty during a war or in a campaign or an expedition. It would apply to Gulf War veterans and those fighting the war on terrorism.
    "We are going to the agencies who issued those three laws they mentioned and try to determine whether those laws would have some kind of impact on Home Depot which might explain its actions," McIver said.
    "This will impact many agencies who might have needs to go to Home Depot. But they can get those needs met by going to other stores."
    A spokesperson for Lowe's Cos., the nation's second-largest home improvement chain, said that it still sells to the government and that it will continue to do so.
    Home Depot might not want to sell to the government, but this month, it reached agreement with the U.S. Labor Department to "recruit, screen and refer" 40,000 job applicants to work in the company's new stores that are being opened "every 47 hours."
    Home Depot was founded in 1978. It operates in 49 states and overseas and has a work force of 250,000 people. Last year, it had sales of $53.6 billion.
  2. A Fire Inside

    A Fire Inside Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 5, 2001 Messages: 1,836 Likes Received: 0
    Bump. Nice find Jobe.

    E-mail me if you have some spare time.
  3. girl-lies

    girl-lies Junior Member

    Joined: May 10, 2002 Messages: 199 Likes Received: 0
    home depot cuts down the rain forest.
  4. Dyptheria

    Dyptheria Guest

    the fact that home depot is refusing money from the department of defense makes me want to support them even more. way to go home depot, i already buy most of my paint from them.
  5. fr8lover

    fr8lover Guest

    player, im afraid that EVERTHING in some way or another, whether direct or indirect cuts down the rainforest.

    welcome to the 21st century.

    JIGSAW Guest

    home depot here is right next door to walmart.....
  7. suburbian bum

    suburbian bum 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 14,673 Likes Received: 3
    Home depot drives large wooden boards through the heads of minorities.

    Yeah i know, that was unessesary.
  8. platapie

    platapie Guest

    true dat!

    REGULATOR Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 6, 2001 Messages: 3,383 Likes Received: 0
    i rack from home depot, now i kinda feel bad
  10. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2002 Messages: 2,901 Likes Received: 1
    hey boxcar, you still in philly? if so and you're bored, we should skate some time.

    good article.
  11. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 8, 2000 Messages: 1,288 Likes Received: 0
    no im not in philly anymore. im back in hell. not where i belong. not where i like being.

    wanting to have died three months ago when the shit really hit the fan.
  12. onesandzeros

    onesandzeros Member

    Joined: Apr 10, 2000 Messages: 588 Likes Received: 0
    yes. lets all stop racking from home depot, because they did one little thing that was probably in their best corporate interests, nevermind all the little mom and pop stores that probably had some nice old paint to sell to you that went out of business because of the depot, lets shed some tears for our brothers in justice at home depot.

  13. SenorSeven

    SenorSeven Elite Member

    Joined: Mar 11, 2001 Messages: 2,727 Likes Received: 0
    agreed onesandzeros.
  14. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 8, 2000 Messages: 1,288 Likes Received: 0
    i never said stop racking, in fact rack more from them... it shows your support of their move to be less involved in a crapitalist society show your support. im all about it.

    i was actually trying to get people to reach a higher level with this post rather than thinking like a plebe. oh wait i forgot...

    the point of discussion i probably should have been more elaborate in pointing out was: does one think that this is a voice of laissez-faire or an actual attempt at standing in solidarity with a dissident voice of protest against the US government?

    (sorry i didn't put it into words y'all could understand... and you took it to mean wait should i stop racking paint from a corporate entity... ill stop with the sarcasm.)
  15. ///haha, its funny because for most here it is true

    that is interesting that a corporation of such proportion would not support the US government, i doubt it is out of moral standing.
    yeah, rack more