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Fuck Kings

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by Unregistered, Jan 25, 2002.

  1. Unregistered

    Unregistered Junior Member

    Joined: Nov 30, 2001 Messages: 154 Likes Received: 0
    If you think about what being a king really means, I think it's something most legendary writers wouldn't actually want to be called.
    Almost all historical kings didn't earn their seat on the throne. They were given their title from a royal lineage, not because they shoveled shit for most of their life and deserved it.
    Writers break their backs to get over, and have to earn it every step of the way. If I was one of these guys who are normally called kings, I think I'd rather be called some other shit.

    Just a thought, and an unnecessarily over-analytical one at that. Feel free to assault me with rebuttal.
  2. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    historicly speaking, very few kings were deserving of the title, but graffiti is not a matriachy, and to become a king, you do have to earn it. and since writers are such jealous shit talking assholes, if you can make it to that level and be pretty much uncontested, you earned that shit.

    notice though, that very, very few people since the days of the subway ever get refered to as kings. its not that they dont deserve some sort of recognition, i just think its that the game is different now a days. it might be harder on some levels now, but were also not inventing a whole new artform anymore. when the subways went down, graff lost a huge part of itself... one that freights will never be able to make up for...

    or maybe not, who knows...


    in my perspective, kings is a outdated term for the most part..unless your reffering to KING 157. The majority of people I have met that I consider to be kings in my opinion are considerd that by me on a wide gauge for seperate reasons...I use the term fairly loosley and dont make it a part of my general graffiti vocabulary at this point.
    For example if im talking to a "king" than im probably listening and hearing things i never heard which is really cool because the history of graffiti is largley not documented and when someone drops knowledge its always a blessing.
    If im chillen with some cats I know that are prolly the "king" of my scene then were just chillen.
    either way its largley based on opinion and i dont really care to debate it at this point, as far as who deserves king status and why. but thats my example of my definition....
    seeking has a point..King is a term largley affiliated with Subway Graffiti, specificly new york. as far as using it, theres a ton of other terms so...its cool to honor subway and spraycan art for exposing the traditional slang...but new slang is where its at.
  4. imported_b0b

    imported_b0b Guest

    I Agree the term King is a bit dated, but that in turn begs the question: what term would you use for someone who would have previously earned the title King?

    Also does anyone have a term for writers that definately aren't toys, that are up, but not shitloads. They aren't toys, but they aren't kings.. Kind of the graf equivalent of Middle Management.
  5. Vanity

    Vanity Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 11, 2000 Messages: 7,673 Likes Received: 6
    it's good enough.
    it's not like it's an official label or anything.

    the only time i really say it is in a verb sense.
    like if a cat had a city on lock for a few years, bombing wise... i'd say, 'that kid is kinging shit'
    i guess it's a step above killing.
  6. 455

    455 Guest

    why are you even worried about it?....who cares.
  7. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    thats what i was thinking , but ya that was way over analysed
  8. SEone

    SEone Member

    Joined: Dec 30, 2001 Messages: 477 Likes Received: 1

    It's Graf dawgz!!! U dont get no royalty dubbing ceromony!! Anybody can king shit...
  9. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,363 Likes Received: 299
    :king: It's not like someone goes home after a a night of bombing to his castle over looking all the city and all the little people. I agree although it's good to analyze subjects I think this one was way to over analyzed.
    Remember the first part of Analyze is Anal.:king:
  10. xerox

    xerox New Jack

    Joined: Nov 8, 2001 Messages: 3 Likes Received: 0
    the only kings in my eyes are the ny writers whowere hittin subways in the early 80s or before. for example: cope2, seen, duster, dondi(rip), tkid, skeme, dez, pjay, cap, etc. i think writers now have made the term into something you give yourself. being a king is something that is given to you, not given to yourself.
  11. Unregistered

    Unregistered Junior Member

    Joined: Nov 30, 2001 Messages: 154 Likes Received: 0
    Well done gentleman, your attack of rebuttal is indeed called for.
  12. montanaman

    montanaman Guest

    boy do i since a lot of jelousy here .... fukin hatin toys
  13. E-DubleSkilZ

    E-DubleSkilZ New Jack

    Joined: Jan 30, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 1
    Who the fuck cares. Wait a second im looking in my encyclopedia britanica under "king" and researching the subject. Sheaaaa Right
  14. JoeHatesCops

    JoeHatesCops Guest


    i always considered kings like old school writers who are famous, and stuff, but i guess i have used it as slang, by saying oh that guys the king of a certain area, but its not the same level. you know hwat I mean.?? i honestly dont care though MOJO MAOS PUGET SOUNDIALECT
  15. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    no such thing exists , just thought id let you know......