Revolution

[BloodKlot]

the votes don't want me to. but I think it's for the best.

[buckfiftyexports]

Keep going mate, its an interesting thread.

[.coma]

here's a thought.....

 

 

the internet is a vast, sprawling nexus in which its users remain (for the most part) anonymous. that means that there is a high probability that the "leo's" that monitor this site will, on their leisure time, come here and participitate in the casual political debate. however, their ideals never leave the job although i'm sure a few eyes have been opened and a few questions will be presented to their superiors nonetheless. furthermore, the existance of Cointelpro and other such methods make me question the validity of certain statements in many forums like this one.

 

 

but all paranoia aside, maybe i give people the benefit of the doubt seeing as how i fail to see how some blindly trust an entity who's motives in the past century have shrouded in red tape to the point where we the people have to find out "what really happened" 20 years after the event actually happened. and even then, we still don't get the full story.

 

 

 

we need to "wake up" from the american "dream"

 

 

 

 

oh yea, big ups to bloodklot for this powerful thread.

[.coma]

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Gibson_%28novelist%29

 

 

 

William Ford Gibson (born March 17, 1948, Conway, South Carolina) is an American-born science fiction author who has been called the father of the cyberpunk subgenre of science fiction, partly due to coining the term "cyberspace" in 1982,[5] and partly because of the success of his first novel, Neuromancer, which has sold more than 6.5 million copies worldwide since its publication in 1984.[6]

 

In 1968, Gibson went to Canada "to avoid the Vietnam war draft" [7] and settled in Vancouver, British Columbia four years later where he began to write science fiction. Although he retains US citizenship,[8] Gibson has spent most of his adult life in Canada, and still lives in the Vancouver area.

[Schnitzel]

good thread i polled yes to keep going!

[Ski Mask]

Louis Riel (October 22, 1844 – November 16, 1885) was a Canadian politician, a founder of the province of Manitoba, and leader of the Métis people of the Canadian prairies. He led two resistance movements against the Canadian government that sought to preserve Métis rights and culture as their homelands in the Northwest Territories came progressively under the Canadian sphere of influence.

The first such resistance was the Red River Rebellion of 1869–1870. The provisional government established by Riel ultimately negotiated the terms under which the modern province of Manitoba entered the Canadian Confederation. Riel was forced into exile in the United States as a result of the controversial execution of Thomas Scott during the rebellion. Despite this, he is frequently referred to as the "Father of Manitoba." While a fugitive, he was elected three times to the Canadian House of Commons, although he never assumed his seat. During these years, he suffered from bouts of mental illness, including the delusion that he was a divinely chosen leader and prophet. This conviction later resurfaced and influenced his actions. He married in 1881 while in exile in Montana, and fathered three children. He became a naturalized American citizen and was actively involved in the Republican party.

In 1884, Riel returned to what is now the province of Saskatchewan to represent Métis grievances to the Canadian government. This resistance escalated into a military confrontation known as the North-West Rebellion of 1885. It ended in his arrest, trial, and eventual execution on a charge of high treason. Riel was viewed sympathetically in francophone regions of Canada, and his execution had a lasting influence on relations between the province of Quebec and English-speaking Canada. Whether seen as a Father of Confederation or a traitor, he remains one of the most complex, controversial, and ultimately tragic figures in the history of Canada.

[CALIgula]

ha....i met dead prez.

[BloodKlot]

Well then. Let us continue.

[BloodKlot]

Che Guevara

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (June 14[1], 1928 – October 9, 1967), commonly known as Che Guevara or El Che, was an Argentine-born Marxist revolutionary, political figure, and leader of Cuban and internationalist guerrillas. As a young man studying medicine, Guevara traveled roughrough throughout Latin America, bringing him into direct contact with the impoverished conditions in which many people lived. His experiences and observations during these trips led him to the conclusion that the region's socio-economic inequalities could only be remedied by revolution, prompting him to intensify his study of Marxism and travel to Guatemala to learn about the reforms being implemented there by President Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán.

 

Some time later, Guevara joined Fidel Castro's revolutionary 26th of July Movement, which seized power in Cuba in 1959. After serving in various important posts in the new government and writing a number of articles and books on the theory and practice of guerrilla warfare, Guevara left Cuba in 1965 with the intention of fomenting revolutions first in Congo-Kinshasa, and then in Bolivia, where he was captured in a CIA/U.S. Army Special Forces-organized military operation. Guevara was summarily executed by the Bolivian Army in La Higuera near Vallegrande on October 9, 1967.

 

 

After his death, Guevara became an icon of socialist revolutionary movements worldwide. An Alberto Korda photo of him (shown) has received wide distribution and modification. The Maryland Institute College of Art called this picture "the most famous photograph in the world and a symbol of the 20th century."

LEARN MORE:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

[InnerCityRebel]

keep going..knowledge is power and some people will learn something from this..

[BloodKlot]

Knowledge:

 

10 CIA Front Companies

 

Gibraltar Steamship Company

Used to cover activities related to the Bay of pigs invasion.

 

Air America

Supposedly a civilian air service whose planes were allowed to buzz all over Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War, this was a huge CIA operation that shuttled spooks, military brass, arms, drugs, and other people and contraband.

 

Brewster Jennings & Associates

CIA operative Valerie Planne- whose cover was blown by two senior Bush Administration officials and conservative columnist Robert Novak- listed this nonexistant company on a public form. It's address was supposedly 101 Arch Street, Boston, Mass, even though the office tower the has no such tenant.

The Boston Globe reports:

A spokeswoman for Dun & Bradstreet Inc., a New Jersey operator of commercial databases, said Brewster Jennings was first entered into records on May 22, 1994, but wouldn't discuss the source of the filing. It's records list the company at 101 Arch st. as a "legal services office," wich could mean a law firm, with and annual sales of $60,00, one employee, and a chief executive identified as "Victor Brewster, Partner." That person isn't listed elswhere.

 

Aroundworld Shipping, Inc.

This and the following companies were created for gunn-running by Edwin Wilson, a former CIA officer who supposedly was kicked out of the Agency and then supplied arms to Libya.

 

Consultants International, Inc.

 

Delex International Corporations

 

Egyptian-American Transport Service Company

 

Inter-Technology, Inc.

 

Scientific Communications, Inc.

 

Systems Services International

 

Note: Some Legitimate companies may also be using these names, so don't assume that any company with one the names is a spook operation.

 

SOURCE: Disinformation, The Book of Lists.

[BloodKlot]

Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps

(Persian: سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی - Sepah-e Pasdaran-e Enghelab-e Islami), often shortened to Revolutionary Guards, or called by its Persian (Farsi) name Sepah (meaning army) or Pasdaran (meaning guardians), is the largest military organisation of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The literal Persian (Farsi) translation of the name means "The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution".

 

The Sepah-e Pasdaran is separate from, and parallel to, the Islamic Republic of Iran Army. They are equipped with their own navy, air force, intelligence, ground troops and special forces.

 

The force's main role is in national security, responsible for internal and border security, as well as law enforcement. It is also responsible for Iran's missile forces. The operations of the Sepah-e Pasdaran are geared towards asymmetric warfare and less traditional duties. These include the control of smuggling, control of the Strait of Hormoz, and resistance operations.

 

Following the end of the Iran-Iraq war, some efforts were made to create a joint command between the Army and the Revolutionary Guards, but these have been limited in nature and have not had a dramatic impact. [citation needed] Ultimately, it seems that the two forces will operate separately but focus on different operational roles.

 

The IRGC was formed in May, 1979, as a force loyal to Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, but later became a full military force alongside the army in the Iran-Iraq War. It was infamous for its human wave attacks such as during Operation Ramadan, an assault on the city of Basra.

 

 

The present Chief Commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps is Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi who was preceded by Mohsen Rezaee. Iran's current president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a member of the Revolutionary Guards during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war.

LEARN MORE:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Revolutionary_Guards_Corps

[BloodKlot]

The October Revolution in Russia

also known as the Bolshevik Revolution, is traditionally dated to October 25, 1917 (November 7, N.S.). [1] The October Revolution was the second phase of the overall Russian Revolution of 1917, after the February Revolution of the same year. The October Revolution overthrew the Russian Provisional Government and gave the power to Bolsheviks. It was followed by the Russian Civil War (1917–1920) and the creation of the Soviet Union in 1922.

 

The revolution was planned earlier, on October 10, led by Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks with the Mensheviks, Left Socialist-Revolutionaries and anarchists. Bolshevik troops began the take over of government buildings on October 24; however, October 25 was the date that the Winter Palace (the seat of the Provisional government located in Saint Petersburg, then capital of Russia), was captured. It was the first Marxist communist revolution in history.

 

Initially, the event was referred to as the October uprising (Октябрьский переворот) or the Uprising of 25th, as seen in contemporary documents, for example, in the first editions of Lenin's complete works. With time, the October Revolution was seen as a hugely important global event.

 

The Great October Socialist Revolution (Russian: Великая Октябрьская социалистическая революция, Velikaya Oktyabr'skaya sotsialisticheskaya revolyutsiya) was the official name for the October Revolution in the Soviet Union since the 10th anniversary celebration of the Revolution in 1927. Today this name is used mainly by Russian Communists.

LEARN MORE:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution

[MAR]

you cant have a revolution thread without the JDL and Rav Meir Kahana.

 

The JDL was founded in 1968 by Rabbi Meir Kahane. Its goal was to protect Jews, initially in New York City, and to protest local manifestations of anti-Semitism.

 

Read-up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League

 

I dont agree with them 100% or even 50% but we do both agree that jews should protect themselves.

 

 

Kahane's ideology has been called Kahanism. Kahane adhered to the belief that Jewish law contains directions for how to run a Jewish state, and that these directions are directly applicable at the present day. He believed that a Jewish Democracy with non-Jewish citizens is contradictory because the non-Jewish citizens may someday become the majority and vote to make the state non-Jewish. He, among others (such as author Joan Peters), believed that a Palestinian people do not exist, regarding Palestinians as disparate and unrelated Arab clans with no distinct ethnic identity. Kahane claimed that no description of Palestinian Arabs as a distinct nationality can be found in any pre-20th century text and he frequently challenged his detractors to prove otherwise. He also claimed that historically, there are no examples of Arab Muslims living peacefully with other ethnic groups. Thus, Kahane proposed the forcible deportation of all Arabs from all lands controlled by the Israeli government. In his view, evicting most Palestinian Arab Muslims (even Israeli Arabs), was the only solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and to the Arab-Israeli conflict. When he served as a member of the Knesset he proposed a $40,000 compensation plan for the Arabs he was to evict.

Kahane also believed that Israel should limit citizenship to Jews and adopt Jewish law (Halakha) in public life. He advocated that the Israeli government should pass theocratic laws such as banning the sale of pork, outlawing missionary activities in Israel, and a ban on all sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews [1]. Supporters say Kahane was protecting Torah values and the integrity of the Jewish nation. Detractors consider Kahane's views bigoted. See: Jewish view of marriage.

[RumPuncher]

nice post with Louis Riel.

 

[stunt double]

May 1968

 

 

 

(in this context usually spelled May '68) is the name given to a series of events that started with a student strike in France. It turned into a general strike which paralyzed parts of the country and caused the collapse of the de Gaulle government. Most of the protesters espoused left-wing causes, communism or anarchism. Many saw the events as an opportunity to shake up the "old society" in many social aspects, including methods of education, sexual freedom and free love. "May '68" was a failure from a political point-of-view; however, it can be argued that it had an important impact on French society and its values.

It began as a series of student strikes that broke out at a number of universities and high schools in Paris, following confrontations with university administrators and the police. The de Gaulle administration's attempts to quash those strikes by further police action only inflamed the situation further, leading to street battles with the police in the Latin Quarter, followed by a general strike by students and strikes throughout France by ten million French workers, roughly two-thirds of the French workforce. The protests reached the point that de Gaulle created a military operations headquarters to deal with the unrest, dissolved the National Assembly and called for new parliamentary elections for 23 June 1968.

Following months of conflicts between students and authorities at the University of Paris at Nanterre, the administration shut down that university on 2 May 1968. Students at the University of the Sorbonne in Paris met on 3 May to protest against the closure and the threatened expulsion of several students at Nanterre. Prominent student anarchist activist Daniel Cohn-Bendit stepped into the limelight.

The Sorbonne administration responded by calling the police, who surrounded the university and arrested students as they tried to leave the campus. When other students gathered to stop the police vans from taking away the arrested students, the riot police responded by launching tear gas into the crowd. Rather than dispersing the students, the tear gas only brought more students to the scene, where they blocked the exit of the vans. The police finally prevailed, but only after arresting hundreds of students...

 

learn more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968

[BloodKlot]

Meir David Kahane

(Hebrew: מאיר דוד כהנא, Kahane being a variation on Cohen or "priest"; also known by the pseudonym Michael King, David Sinai, Hayim Yerushalmi) (August 1, 1932 – November 5, 1990) was an American Orthodox rabbi, author, political activist, and a sometime member of the Israeli Knesset. He was a controversial and polarizing figure, to some a "visionary hero of the Jewish people" and to others a "criminal racist."

 

Kahane was known in the United States and Israel for his strong political and nationalist views, exemplified in his promotion of a theocratic Greater Israel which meant that he believed that God intended the area for the Jewish people and therefore they should take and annex Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. He founded two controversial movements: the Jewish Defense League (JDL) in the United States and Kach, an Israeli political party. In 1984, Kach gained one seat in the Knesset and Rabbi Meir Kahane became a member. In 1986, Rabbi Meir Kahane voted in favor of an anti racism law that exempted "acts for purposes of religious worship or intended to preserve Israel's unique character." In 1986, Kach under controversial circumstances, was declared a racist party by the Israeli government and banned from the Knesset, and, in 1994, following the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre, the movement was outlawed completely. Kahane's Knesset career was ended by section 7a of Basic Law: The Knesset (1958): "Prevention of Participation of Candidates List."

 

 

Kahane was assassinated by El Sayyid Nosair in Manhattan in 1990 after concluding a speech in a New York hotel. Nosair later stood trial as a co-conspirator of Shaikh Omar Abdel Rahman and received a life sentence plus fifteen years imprisonment for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, conspiracy to use explosives against the United Nations, and a plot to assassinate U.S. politicians and the Egyptian President. Eventually, Kahane's killing was ruled a part of the "seditious conspiracy," and Nosair was convicted of the killing.

LEARN MORE:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

[BloodKlot]

FREE PALESTINE

[MAR]

I have a request for basque

[MAR]

FREE PALISTINE

first you have to spell it right.

[BloodKlot]

more specific?

[BloodKlot]

first you have to spell it right.

yeah, just about to edit

[MAR]

on basque or the spelling?

[BloodKlot]

Language? People? Nationalisim?

[MAR]

revolution and history. it alway seems to be very hush hush and very few people I talk to know who they are.

[BloodKlot]

Basque nationalism

is a movement with roots in the Carlism and the loss by the laws of 1839 and 1876 of the Ancien Regime relationship between the Basque provinces and the crown of Spain when the Spanish government revoked part of the fueros after the Third Carlist War. The fueros acted as part of the Basque legal system and dealt with matters pertaining to the relation of the Basque Provinces with the crown. The fueros were charters confirmed by the successive kings of Castile. The Fueros gave Basque citizens a privileged position in Spain with special tax and political status; basically, Basques were not subject to direct levee to the Castilian army, although many volunteered, especially in the navy.

 

During the 19th century, the reactionary Fuerista movement pleaded for the maintenance of the Fueros against the liberal centralizing pressures.

 

Basque Nationalism was born much later. The chief ideologist of early Basque nationalism is Sabino Arana, founder of the Basque Nationalist Party. By the end of the 19th century, Arana created an ideology centred on the purity of the Basque race and its moral supremacy over other Spaniards (a derivation of the system of limpieza de sangre of Modern-Age Spain), anti-Liberal Catholic integrism, and deep opposition to the migration of other Spaniards to the Basque Country starting during the first stages of the industrial revolution.

 

In the early 20th century, Basque nationalism developed from a nucleus of petty bourgeois enthusiasts (non-native Basque speakers) in Bilbao to incorporate the peasant basis of Carlism in Biscay and Guipuscoa. The movement survived without any problems the dictatorship of Miguel Primo de Rivera under the guise of cultural and sportive associations.

 

Basque nationalism managed to substitute Carlism in the favour of the Catholic church as a barrier against leftist unbelief.

 

 

Several splits and reunions were caused by clashes of personalities over different desires for the status of the Basque Country (autonomy versus independence). There were also leftist versions, though the Basque working class (many of them immigrants) was divided among the Spanish Communist and Socialist movements. The ELA-STV Catholic trade union tried to diffuse nationalism within the workers, but its influence was minor, until the democratization.

LEARN MORE:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_nationalism

[MAR]

wow the basque have a very interesting history. possible neolithic language roots.....pretty neat.

[BloodKlot]

love the language

[boogie hands]

i went with myself on this one....you lost me when the rappers started popping up.

 

p.s. - nothing having to do with religion is "revolutionary". its archaic and exploitative at its best.

[BloodKlot]

still worth knowing.