.coma Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 put your passport into a microwave for about 3 secs. takes care of the chip without burning the paper. .coma's toolz for teh futuorz! financial "freem" is only a swipe away!;) this http://www.rf-dump.org/about.shtml plus this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 internal passports. yay http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/03/national_id_car.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 ^^^ the peeps in this nation arent that smart. all people are gonna hear is "oh, but if we deny these things in our state, we wont be able to get on airplanes!!" this is america, you dont have to carry a govt cattle card. that being said, almost every citizen of the US has had one since Herr Roosevelt enacted social security. people oppposed the system also on the grounds of it establishing a national ID system. opponents were called uncaring, rich, anti old people hate mongers. proponents warned that SS card would only be used for the SS system not for identification purposes. hahaha, sure. so if people are really opposed to these national ID's, they should also opposed to the communist healthcare schemes and social 'security' mandated retirement. Are you seriously against healthcare and retirement for the elderly and disabled? You're a fucking nutball. And fuck this 1984 shit too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 no im not against healthcare and retirement for the elderly and disabled. i just think ones self, family, or community should be taking thier of this business, not a central government. you have to buy your cheeseburger and coke, you should have to buy your healthcare and save for your retirement. everyone has heard this debate 1000 times so i'll just stop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r3ader Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 they've heard it but they haven't listened... be responsible for yourself and yours (as in your family) because neither the govt nor anyone else is going to care for them, despite their promises. many elderly people are currently having to choose 1 of 3 options: buy food, buy medicine or pay rent. the govt will not care for you/us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 they've heard it but they haven't listened... be responsible for yourself and yours (as in your family) because neither the govt nor anyone else is going to care for them, despite their promises. many elderly people are currently having to choose 1 of 3 options: buy food, buy medicine or pay rent. the govt will not care for you/us. ideally, we don't want to govt to care for us. ideally. it's too bad brains aren't nurtured as much as brawn is in the u.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.coma Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 here's my two cents as to why this kind of stuff is going on. there are three major events that would merit another false flag attack on this country. the g8 summit in 2012 the possiblility of the olympics returning in 2012 and the presidential election in 2012. in conjunction with these.... Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic. Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen: EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. its not hard to see a series of events unfold leaading up to the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChallengeYourScenery Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 http://www.prisonplanet.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 no im not against healthcare and retirement for the elderly and disabled. i just think ones self, family, or community should be taking thier of this business, not a central government. you have to buy your cheeseburger and coke, you should have to buy your healthcare and save for your retirement. everyone has heard this debate 1000 times so i'll just stop now. Except you always stop arguing when you can't counter somebody's points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarred Bars Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 welcome new world order... hey, i've got a great idea, lets have all the congress and senate who are supposed to be representing us to pass laws that take away more of our liberties! i think the statue of liberty should have her name changed to statue of opression and conformity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.coma Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 actually, the statue of liberty is a pagen goddess (of fertility i believe) donated by french masons....... but thats not the fucked up part..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabloid- Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think the national i.d. act is just one step closer to removal of physical currency. As soon as physical currancy is gone, we will have no choice other than compliance. The next step will be those fucking chips they put in shelter dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Me personally, paper money is just as bad as nothing at all aka plastic. I think we're already fucked, and the national ID cards are just going to make it worse. Soon people will own nothing of actual value, which will make us dependant for everything. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.coma Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 so the question remains, whats it gonna take to change? because sit-in are cute and all, but i don't think its done much good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 so the question remains, whats it gonna take to change? because sit-in are cute and all, but i don't think its done much good. when the time comes, all of the brave americans will decline the chips, the toll roads, the vaccines, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 ha, ha, yeah right, they'll condition you to think it's for your own swcurity and everyone will think it's all good except for a few of us who move to another country, I'm already in the process of buying some tax free property overseas to jump into.....that's wassup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Except you always stop arguing when you can't counter somebody's points. Zing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 ha, ha, yeah right, they'll condition you to think it's for your own swcurity and everyone will think it's all good except for a few of us who move to another country, I'm already in the process of buying some tax free property overseas to jump into.....that's wassup i know. it sounds far-fetched. i'm so disappointed in my countrymen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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