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What does it matter what you think? Someones just still mad that I called him out about being too old to start shit with someone barely half his age! So how about instead of trying to act like you run everything, you just leave people the hell alone and worry about YOURSELF.

 

You're the one turning this chill state and scene into a place of bullshit. Go and single out the kids that are ignorant and arrogant and just go out and ruin shit and heat up the scene, not the kids that have actually respected your rules and tried to come up through the scene the way that the older heads tried to guide them through.

 

It's crazy how things have ended up these days. You'd think that someone in this guys position would just find Balance (being the type of kid everyone knows that he is), and confront him in a cool calm manor saying "Hey man I'm really not happy you painted such and such a place." He'd then get a cool calm response and it wouldn't happen again. Instead, he has to attempt to assert his dominance with a kid that WON'T fight him or even bother arguing, and then continue to bully him and give him shit anytime that he has something to say or post. Pretty fucked up that people like Ragsy up here has to create this confrontation when it could've been solved by simply acting like a man instead of like this and just acting on anger. As long as you stay off the older heads names you should be good to just paint freely and not have someone acting like the Police of Graffiti.

 

 

 

 

Now I'm sorry and I know this isn't chan.0 but I wasn't going to just keep this in PM, I put it out there because I know some will agree. So here's an old flick or 2 to try to not have this closed.

 

 

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I didn't want to say anything, but who knows, maybe some productive discussion may arise...

 

1. Why not let the 2 parties involved directly settle their differences? From what I knew, this was a dead issue. But now, with the help of friends, it is back on the table.

 

2. Getting gone over is part of coming up. (Oh and by the way, I am not speaking on this particular instance, both parties have heard from me personally, and know where I stand on this particular situation). But as far as I remember, getting capped, especially from someone who has more clout, happens. It is then up to the person to handle it appropriately and either take shit back, scrap or talk it out. Since we live in such a small place, I understand how it feels more personal, but on the real, youngins get challenged all the time, it is part of the game.

 

3. There's always conflict between generations of writers, and there always will be. As time has proven, the young ones who show respect, put in work, and step up to challenges are the ones who prevail, it's natural selection homes.

 

Old writers can be grumpy and young writers can think they know it all, it's really natural and not anything to get all up in arms about.

 

And I highly disagree about this place turning into a bunch of bullshit. We've got some ridiculous shit going on here right now and I feel extremely privileged to witness it.

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I know where you're coming from and I wasn't trying to say anything about being angry about being gone over AT ALL, that's the part I could care less about. In fact I've been going about these past 2 posts without anger involved, but more just frustration with the way things work.

 

Didn't mean to sound like a know it all and I sure as hell don't know it all, I'm just stating what I've seen over the past 3 years.

 

While graffiti is a part of it, this is mainly about the attitude involved. That just came into it. No matter what I won't let a friend be punked out especially if they won't do anything about it, and no matter what if someone says something to me in a disrespectful manor than I'm going to say my part, and that's what this is all about.

 

I know that some will get angry by association but this is only directed at one person and anyone with common sense knows who that is. I respect the older heads and how they want to do shit and I appreciate the shit out of the ones that tried to help mentor me through my first year or so. The scene is amazing and the only point I'm trying to make is it's absurd for one person to think they control it all, not anything else.

 

And I was NOT saying that the scene is bullshit in the sense that it sucks I'm saying he's turning it into bullshit along the lines of how he acts towards people that have been involved for a couple years and showed him NOTHING but respect until given reason not to. It's the fact that it IS personal, we are all acquaintances and all have shot the shit many times. With that then shit should be able to be dealt with talking instead of jumping on people or going over them.

 

The only reason this got brought back up is because he had to say something in response to one of my posts. If he had kept his smart ass comment to himself then it wouldn't have been brought back up online.

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Why fight over this dumb petty ego bullshit, especially when shit like this is going on! Respect your fucking elders, paint, and take a stand with your people!

The scene here is pretty fucking amazing, older heads bringing up the newer generation, trying to keep the legacy of Portland alive. Finally this scene has a good small group of kids/guys doing things the right way, the way of Portland. And they are also willing to learn and take constructive criticism from the old heads. I'm sorry, I usually bite my tongue and laugh, but sometimes people go to far and don't show the respect due. I guess it's just the younger generation's way of "My way or no way."

 

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SUB burns everyone else writing in portland. real talk.

 

HAHA!! Sub isnt a graffiti writer so the definition of "burn" doesnt even apply to him. That word is reserved for people that actually paint graffiti! and even you did include Sub, he doesnt burn shit but bridges in this scene!! REAL TALK YOU FUCKIN TOY!

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