rubbish heap Posted February 8, 2005 Author Share Posted February 8, 2005 atleast some kids are acting alot more educated these days... in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatecrime Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Can you use Latex house paint in Kiwis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEPOSTWHORE5000 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 can u read this thread before you ask stupid questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
format_C Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 i think you guys should try the GROG. Ready to use, really long lasting, buff proof and black as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 buff proof? too bad that tag scks then :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youdontknowmyname Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 anyway...what type of ink recipe would work best in a bought flowpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEPOSTWHORE5000 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 i dont know, coo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youdontknowmyname Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 hey! suck my dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 all ink works good in a flowpen, its personal preference to what you want. i dunno, get some black pilot or something. and yeaaaaaaa, getting grog apears to be impossible unless you live in europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEPOSTWHORE5000 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 lol, fuck you coo. i really want some grog, but when i tried to buff my new ink (1/2 pilot, 1/2 garvey) it kind of looked like that pic..black with a violety navy texture to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by bumsuckfun@Feb 16 2005, 05:56 PM all ink works good in a flowpen, its personal preference to what you want. i dunno, get some black pilot or something. and yeaaaaaaa, getting grog apears to be impossible unless you live in europe. Quoted post i think you are retarded. GROG ink is worldwide distributed by graffitishop.it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 generally i respect your opinion, but don't go acting all high and mighty because you read one line on a website, and don't talk about things you don't truly know about if you don't actually know about it. i'm well aware that the site says worldwide. but have you actually tried contacting them or ordering from them? thought not... From: Grog Ink <info@grog-ink.com> Date: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:43:29 PM To: 'xxxxx <xxxd@xxx.ca> Subject: R: purchasing grog Sorry but actually neither us or graffitishop sells ink outside europe. Take care Luca i was suggesting a ferriic-chloride based edinburg etch (metal etch) ink recipe on bombingscience. anyone ehere know much about that stuff? (if you don't know much about chemistry, than don't bother mentioning anything) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3_monk Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 :biglaugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEPOSTWHORE5000 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 garvey mixed with black pilot is working wonders for me i just added fish oil but haven't been able to try it out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 does anyone know how the Montana black alcohol-based permanent ink is? (not the paint that comes in their paint markers, but their actual ink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 it sucks, your better off using pilot ink. It fades really easily, and is not permanent at all, i expected a lot more from montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Originally posted by bumsuckfun@Feb 17 2005, 03:37 AM generally i respect your opinion, but don't go acting all high and mighty because you read one line on a website, and don't talk about things you don't truly know about if you don't actually know about it. i'm well aware that the site says worldwide. but have you actually tried contacting them or ordering from them? thought not... From: Grog Ink <info@grog-ink.com> Date: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:43:29 PM To: 'xxxxx <xxxd@xxx.ca> Subject: R: purchasing grog Sorry but actually neither us or graffitishop sells ink outside europe. Take care Luca i was suggesting a ferriic-chloride based edinburg etch (metal etch) ink recipe on bombingscience. anyone ehere know much about that stuff? (if you don't know much about chemistry, than don't bother mentioning anything) Quoted post i was wrong, your right. but seriously, it says worldwide, so if it isnt actually shipped worldwide, but rather europe-wide, it should say so, dont you think? people like them make people like me look stupid in situations like this :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 actually they say they distribute worldwide.... nothing about selling worldwide.... so they can sell to other shops and import companies worldwide, but not individuals. but to be honest, that doesn't work either, because any shop outside of euroland won't recieve their order... lately ink gets stopped at the border and sent back for being dangerous goods (flammable). i'm not sure if you noticed, but american/canadian shops seem to be lacking the ink inventory lately... this is a big reason why. most of the ink that the shops have in are either paint (not-flammable), or north-american made. of course there is a few exceptions, since there are a few importing companies that get the stuff in, so a select few shops have a bit of euro ink... but that's about it. by the way, even if graffitishop.it did sell to individual customers worldwide, it'd never make it here either for the same reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearlpaint Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 DOT3 Brake Fluid ------------------- This stuff is really cheap. It's a yellowish oily liquid like cooking oil that you can get for $1.99 at your hardware or auto shop. At first it looked like it makes a great solution with regular pilot ink and creates more of it. But it makes your black ink bleed (on paper) and a lighter shade of black.No one has mentioned how long it takes before you start seeing it's corrosive effects. It can take weeks. So I'll run some metal tests and see how long before i see any results at home before I try and waste my time with it on the outside. Is there anyone out there that swears on using this stuff? I'm still testing the shit, if anyone has any positive views on it, please share. So far, I think you can save yourself the hassle of using the stuff. It seems to be an oily waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 it's decent on some surfaces. slows down the drying time and such; glycols and all that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 yeah, if nothing else it slows down the drying time and lets the dyes in the ink stain the surface harder... corrosion would just be a bonus in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 i shoudl also probably throw in that it's Brake Fluid's corrosive properties to paint that are more important than its corrosive properties to metal... it doesn't take long for brake fluid to damage a painted surface and leave ghost tags... ever spill some on a painted car part? in fact, most car fluids are damaging to painted surfaces... anyone ever try paint stripper in their ink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearlpaint Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 yeah, last night i was pretty amazed when i took a tag right onto an big ol oil paint splotch. It made a pretty cool wrinkly effect within seconds. Not bad. Wonder if it works well by itself. Once a cleaner sees a black tag, he'll paint right over it. But just going for the ghost tag on painted surfaces might have some advantages. Plus how can anyone get busted for taking invisible tags? Originally posted by bumsuckfun@Feb 22 2005, 10:52 PM i shoudl also probably throw in that it's Brake Fluid's corrosive properties to paint that are more important than its corrosive properties to metal... it doesn't take long for brake fluid to damage a painted surface and leave ghost tags... ever spill some on a painted car part? in fact, most car fluids are damaging to painted surfaces... anyone ever try paint stripper in their ink? Quoted post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyel Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 iv erd dat if u put fish oil in ink then wen buffed it leaves a stain. i aint tried it yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphredrock Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Pearlpaint@Feb 21 2005, 03:59 PM DOT3 Brake Fluid ------------------- This stuff is really cheap. It's a yellowish oily liquid like cooking oil that you can get for $1.99 at your hardware or auto shop. At first it looked like it makes a great solution with regular pilot ink and creates more of it. But it makes your black ink bleed (on paper) and a lighter shade of black.No one has mentioned how long it takes before you start seeing it's corrosive effects. It can take weeks. So I'll run some metal tests and see how long before i see any results at home before I try and waste my time with it on the outside. Is there anyone out there that swears on using this stuff? I'm still testing the shit, if anyone has any positive views on it, please share. So far, I think you can save yourself the hassle of using the stuff. It seems to be an oily waste. Quoted post I usually dont mix an ink without adding a litttle dot3. Brake fluid has really revolutionized the san francisco bus hopping scene. A small ammount of brake fluid mixed with fiebings, garvey, or griffin can get buffed on plastic and leave a stain for months, even after consistent buffing attempts. For a while, sf buses were super clean and there really wasn't any ink that they couldn't get off in two tries, and then brake fluid comes around and every bus has a handful of stainers on it. I've never seen Dot3 have any effects on metal, however dot3 works amazingly well on all plastic and painted surfaces that recieve the buff. Buffed Lafer stainer (candy ink and dot3) Buffed Pal stainer (Garvey+Fiebings and dot3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 ... what is candy ink anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphredrock Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 an ink that smells really sweet, and stains pretty nicely when mixed with fiebings and dot 3. not too great on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsuckfun Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 i've heard that before... but i mean, like what is it really called? some people act like it's some big secret which is pretty retarded IMO... imagine if the people who first found out about brake fluid or garvey kept it a secret... on a side note, violet OTR Dirty Flowpen ink smells kinda like candy... its a really sweet, kind've liquor-like smell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEPOSTWHORE5000 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 10oz. bottle of breakfluid for .99 at wawa...mm mm wawa here i come if you haven't heard of wawa, move to philadelphia. wawa=good hoagies (also a philadelphia thing), good snacks, and cheap breakfluid :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPMDfan Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Everyone keeps talking about the brake fluid and if it's corrosive or not. The answer, it is to a certain extent but it will take years of exposure to actually eat metal. Think about this for a minute, all brake master cylinders are either cast iron or aluminum. The fluid sits in there for years and years and veryyyy rarely does it start to leak or corrode. Even the brake lines themselves are thin walled tubing and it takes YEARS for the fuild to corrode them to the point they start to leak. Yeah it does happen but after like 20years. The thing brake fluid is good for is eatting paint. If you look under the hood of a old car chances are the master cylinder leaked on the paint alittle bit and the paint is all bubbled up. So adding this stuff to your ink will help with staining because it actually eats into the painted surface and allows the ink to travel deeper into it which in turn makes it harder to buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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