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Re: M.E.M.P.H.I.S!! i'm all down for innovation, but i'm just sayin' you gotta learn some basic letter structure before you get into the more abstract. a clean straight beats a sloppy jagged ugly wild any day of the week. start simple and progress.

Re: M.E.M.P.H.I.S!! so maybe I have no room to talk, but memphis is gettin covered with some ugly youngin shit. striahgt letters before wild style or somethin' like that, yeah? hmm...

Re: M.E.M.P.H.I.S!! memphis graff.... tough times. what happened to the unity? it was there for a minute, when everyone was uh or tm. lot of newjacks comin' along, but some need some work. you all need to paint more bombs that people see, get out of the back alleys, get the scene recognized. better yet just leave this dump. crayola watch yer backs, there's a lesson in beef that will catch up.

finally a gnars i'm feelin. that shit's lookin way doper than before man.

naw nigga unique, like one of a kind n shit.

the ink recipe super thread should be now called "the giant pool of idiots." admins please close this thread. it should be read only. there's nothing else to say here.

bumsuck, i had meant methylene blue when i said gentian blue, jsut got a little criss crossed. i was aware garvey makes blue ink also but i had remembered reading somewhere that only their violet and red is any good, and personally i don't like red. maybe i'm mixed up with feibings? i dunno who cares. omen you said the pigment marsh is thin so does it dry fast? like i said most of my stuff that gets buffed happens within a day or so; if it rides for a few days and then they try a buff it's usually good for a while longer. preciate the knowledge. im def gonna order some white marsh and figure out some dope colors. peace.

omen the reason i was inquiring about the black dye type marsh mixed with garvey is not because of staining power, but for color. i like the violet of garvey but sometimes i prefer darker shades or all out black. also, i mentioned i added pilot to my ink. this is primarily ot amke the ink dry faster. garvey is a little on the slow side, most of my tags that get fully buffed happen within a day of putting it up because the ink doesn't fully dry and get up in there quick enough. i started putting in a generous amount of pilot, which dries quicker in my experience, and htis helped a good bit. you mentioned white pigment marsh as a good base for making other colors. i'm curious if you have ever tried mixing it with addivtives i.e. gentian violet? i'm trying to figure out a nice strong dope looking blueish ink. i'm gonna order some white marsh formt he site you sent (by the way props for that link). i'm thinking of a mix of marsh, a little bit of garvey, and gentian blue. also, does the white marsh mix alright with paint?

omen i see you don't too much dig the ban roll on deodorant because the ball doesn't pop off easily. here's my rememdy for anyone who can't find the arrid. take a sharp knife and stab a whole right through the ball. then grab some pliers and grip inside the tear and yank the ball out. if any of the rim bends slightly, you should be able to shape it back up with the pliers or your hand. pour out the deodorant, or try using some of it first you smelly bastard, and bam, a nice carcuss for a dope mop. omen, couple questiosn for you since you seem to be the wise man here. have you ever tried a mix of violet garv xt70 with marsh black dye type? i have done a close to half and half mixture of xt70 with black pilot, enough pilot so that the ink comes out black. shit stains hard as hell indoor and outdoor, but fades just a little in the sun, so i'm wondering if dye type marsh would be any better than the pilot. second question is have you used black pigment marsh with garv? i usually bomb with one light color for dark surfaces and a dark color for light surfaces, usually an otr with garv/pilot and a ban/eraser mop with silver rusto/mineral spirits/dot3. seems to me white marsh with garv would be more on the lighter side, so is the back as good as the white? also how does the pigment ink do by itself? preciate the wisdom. peace

my ex used to be behind me when i drew and sketched and shit, but as soon as I touched a sticker or went out with a makrer or some paint she nearly flipped. same routine every time. it would start off with her seeming mad and not wanting to talk about it. then it would be the same ole debate about ownership/respect of property. she wasn't fucked up about what i was doing but had a bad feeling about our apparent difference in values, and my disrespect for people, which happened to not permeate into any other aspect of my life, but was still a problem. so yeah over time it created a surprisingly big rift in our relationship and was prolly one of the reasons we broke up. stupid shit. next time i get serious with a girl i'm either not telling her i do graf or i'm making sure she won't give a fuck before hand.

usueurname nice progression on that canvas. neat to see it go stage by stage, but i think you did it in the wrong order. shrug, that shit is mad willy dopeness. keep it up

buff proof? too bad that tag scks then :-P

looks aight. that blue is kinda ick. arent' you supposed to notplug sites on here?

nosy you a small dwarf ass acne face bitch. sure you can dance good but that doesn't mean shit. down with uh huh? well aren't they just the most notorious gangsters of the land. hahaha. you weak. don't talk about disrespect when you come up in here just talking shit off the bat. i'll do a wall but you might need to get stilts, i don't think i can paint well on my knees, little nigga. i don't care about who you're friends with or who you hang with. you need to walk away with your limited sphere of influence, my scene is a different one than yours so take your shit and shove it. you don't know who i am, where i come from or anything about me. I know enough about you kid.

don't interpret this as racism at all, but here in my town, because of several generations of racism, prejiduce, discrimination and segregation, many black kids here tend to be pretty dumb. it is not their fault, but simply the product of socio-economic factors beyond the control of most individuals. The idea behind it I guess is, if you're parents grew up the ghetto, never had good education, you're born into a poor home in a bad part of town, poor schools, etc, all the factors are going to likely leave you in the situation you started in. Thus said, most black males in the teenage plus years here are invovled with gangs and stuff, so most of the black "writers" just do gang tags. the writing scene here iss really small anyway. the whole real hip hop scene is.

seoner, as far as i know, the only difference between otr hard to buffs and the otr paint markers is that the paint marker has a mixing ball in it. you can drop a marble or a metal ball or even a ball bearing from a skateboard wheel or a duncan fireball yoyo or whatever in there. the best thing to do is experiment. take a cup and put some of the paint in and try thinning it down with different things. if you want it to flow well through most any kind of nib, you want it to be thin, close to the consistency of water, but not to the point that it loses color. stir it up i've used permanent acrylic paint thinned with rubbing alcohol and it worked pretty damn well. It isn't too difficult to clean or buff up, but it resists weather, and it's cheap. most shit gets buffed anyway. some other advice, i've seen people on here say use part of a sock as a nib. i tried it, shit was ridiculously crappy. i got pissed and threw the mop away. stick to felt or some kind of foam/sponge. peace.

wtf are you carrying on with this spot jocking bullshit for? i only did one bomb remotely near sam cooper on a mendenhall overpass, and there was no fake or mest near it. on memphis writers you said mest and adecs. can't even keep your shit straight so stfu. they don't own the property anyway and neither do you nigga. and fuck all this bullshit rules of what you can and can't do. if graffiti was all about following protocol, it would be a big politness party, and you'd be the guy who takes everyone's coat at the door. wanna talk shit about names? well yours is perfect, you brown nosin' ass kisser. all you do is kiss ass to uh and tm. don't say fuck the beef that you started you suburban bitch. i'm gonna take it to the streets. lemme run into you one day fucker. maybe i'll come to bench this sunday. watch yaself boy, and oh, go and place a log upon the fire my dear boy, the guests are experiencing a slight chill.

sharpie makes the silver markers, that ink is pretty nice, no idea what it is, but it doesn't seem like paint. that white stuff sounds like shoe polish, i had some once that did the exact same thing, i tossed it before i wnet out with it. about seeing color on ink, i have to agree that it doesn't really matter. i usually mix garvey and some kind of dark stain that dries faster, like pilot or whatever. if you want color, use paint. thin it down right so it runs well and it won't look like shit. tada.

nosy i seen your ugly ass bombs in ditches and other placeswhere fecal matter resides. so don't go startin beef you can't back up with your ceral box styles nigga. i'll break your face if i ever come across you, cock smoker. kiss your ugly bombs goodbye i'm gonna make an effort to paint only where yo do. bitch.

more lata for da hatas. 901 in da hizzy

i know this is brick slayers, fididn to post some paper though. peace

so what's the difference in uses for xylene/mineral spirits? different thinners for different bases? i know you use water for latex paint. most paint's probably say what to thin it with on the bucker. aluminum rusto says mineral spirits. homemade krink :-) anyone got a breakdown on what thinners for what kinds of paint?

haha that site sucks. it doens't have anyhting more than what you copied and pasted from it. i thought plugs weren't allowed. you can't fool me! is there an offical site regarding the book?

when will state your name ever be out?!?!