yomommasaho Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 everyones entitled to their own opinions, but askew kills it and thats a fact. fuck this shit about who came first with what. its graff. everything had been done under the sun long before graffiti was even conceived, so you're just splittin hairs. the guy paints squeaky clean, has solid letters, balanced word composition, great color selection and does something different almost everytime. what more can you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%juice Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 those gents and askew joints. real fresh. bump smash also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 everyones entitled to their own opinions, but askew kills it and thats a fact. fuck this shit about who came first with what. its graff. everything had been done under the sun long before graffiti was even conceived, so you're just splittin hairs. the guy paints squeaky clean, has solid letters, balanced word composition, great color selection and does something different almost everytime. what more can you ask? You could ask Askew to stop cannibalising other peoples style maybe? You could ask him to at least be vocal about acknowledging where it's all come from? God forbid, you could even ask him to come up with something of his own? How about that fanboy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visitor72 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 You could ask him to at least be vocal about acknowledging where it's all come from? hmm? http://www.askew1.com/2010/02/my-style-journey-an-attempt-at-defining-a-timeline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckerpunch Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 You could ask Askew to stop cannibalising other peoples style maybe? You could ask him to at least be vocal about acknowledging where it's all come from? God forbid, you could even ask him to come up with something of his own? How about that fanboy? very little in graff ISNT "cannabalised". Smash has "cannabalised" plenty. Its classic letter structure used for decades now, with his own twist on it. Same for askew, classic letters with his own twist. How about that fanboy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$%^&* Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 I aint trying to get all involved with the back and forth here but I'm just gonna say that when I would visit this thread it was nothing but positive. No one had shit to say about shit until they read some interview with Smash. All that shows is that you're all followers. Smash came out of his face, sounded really arrogant and played himself, in my opinion. Mainly because Smash's style is not original to begin with. His style is based off of classic NYC lettering foundation. He added his own twist to it, but he didn't invent anything. At the end of the day, dude was crying because someone outined their piece with a fat cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIECLAN! Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 how can anyone say anything bad about this guy seriously if your not fuking with dude or smash you shouldnt be saying shyt..but playing your position.. bump askew ! if heads aint hating you aint doin shyt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askew SUK Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Wow, I'm not too sure how to react to a lot of what is being said, neither the positive or the negative.. I thought a few times about getting on the defense but seriously, I can't think of anything that can be said to improve the situation so I'm just doing what i know best.. I keep painting. If you read my blog, the link was posted up above you will see I'm very quick to give props to people that took time to teach me things. It's hard to say everything I want to say in a concise way but I will get there... In the mean time, just a progress shot of a piece I finally (pretty much) finished today.. And a sketch I did for a recent print.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatlaces Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Crazy. Post the whole wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchild* Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 dudes on some whole nother level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye cancer Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 what's with all this bickering and hating for. Askew has put in a ton of work and has progressed to a veteran writer at a young age. Why don't you guys worry about your own work and go sketch and paint instead of all the hating. If you have any doubts about the guy then click away...it's that easy. I don't think Askew has ever come off cocky and has always been very articulate in presenting his work. Check out his site to see his timeline. This guy is humble as hell and its ridiculous that you guys are going to be schoolgirls and ruin this thread. You all should be glad he even takes the time to post here for you guys to enjoy. Thats why I don't even bother coming to this site anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COFFIN-NAILS Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Who blames the Internet for detracting from the legitimacy of graffiti, then uses a platform like an ONLINE interview designed to showcase their own graffiti, to diss not only another writer but a whole demographic of writers in New Zeland... Bump Askew, Smash is good too. But kind of put the 'ho' in homie on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askew SUK Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 A3 Poster with close up details of the Urban Development wall: http://www.askew1.com/presents/askew_urbandevelopment_a3poster.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deco23 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 what up big E. that wall is fucking sick. you said it right, no matter what people say good or bad, just keep painting. i wish i could come there and rock something out with you. maybe one day. anyways shit looks dope. take care man. melvin from detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deco23 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 p.s. the shirt i got from you in miami got thrashed. my kid spilt grape juice all over it. gotta get a new one someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiceone FTM Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 ASKEW VENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askew SUK Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 What's up Melvin! good to hear from you dude.. shame about the shirt.. hit me up via my website and I'll get your details to send you another one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deco23 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 will do sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchild* Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 that wall is fresh as shit^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invasion1989 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 very little in graff ISNT "cannabalised". Smash has "cannabalised" plenty. Its classic letter structure used for decades now, with his own twist on it. Same for askew, classic letters with his own twist. How about that fanboy? This kind of argument seems to rear its ugly head more and more these days. It's essence is this; All graffiti is influenced from somewhere which makes it a mute point to say someone is 'biting', therefore it is acceptable to copy other peoples style. This problem with this perspective that it ignores degree's of influence taken, contribution to development of the style, and overall progress away from someone else's style. Of course all graffiti has similarities, it would not be graffiti if it didn't. However, acknowledging this does not give you licence to go and copy an Atom or a Smash piece (for example). While it has never been acceptable to take multiple elements of someone else's style (without their permission), a natural level of common influence is expected, like a kick on a letter, or a general colour scheme. This kind of influence would rarely be responded to as biting. In contrast taking more than this kind of low level influence would be. Subsequently if you do then take some kind of influence you are expected to develop it. Just taking an idea from someone else and continually rehashing it is not really acceptable. If you do take influence from another writer I would say you almost owe it to them to evolve it into something new and individual to you, therefore moving away from the original. Failure to do this would leave you closer to biting rather than influencing territory. Parts of these ideas are relevant to Askew, others not so. But I am sick of reading such a fucking stupid argument that 'everyone takes influence so all style is fair game'. The consequence of this kind of argument is that toys get to capitalise of the hard work of style pioneers without the need to pay respect or give credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elorock Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 the funniest thing is that no one compared them or said a thing before smash137 did that interview.. Where can one read said interview? Looked back through the thread but didn't see anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deco23 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 rime and askew freight is sick son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMASHMOP Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 This kind of argument seems to rear its ugly head more and more these days. It's essence is this; All graffiti is influenced from somewhere which makes it a mute point to say someone is 'biting', therefore it is acceptable to copy other peoples style. This problem with this perspective that it ignores degree's of influence taken, contribution to development of the style, and overall progress away from someone else's style. Of course all graffiti has similarities, it would not be graffiti if it didn't. However, acknowledging this does not give you licence to go and copy an Atom or a Smash piece (for example). While it has never been acceptable to take multiple elements of someone else's style (without their permission), a natural level of common influence is expected, like a kick on a letter, or a general colour scheme. This kind of influence would rarely be responded to as biting. In contrast taking more than this kind of low level influence would be. Subsequently if you do then take some kind of influence you are expected to develop it. Just taking an idea from someone else and continually rehashing it is not really acceptable. If you do take influence from another writer I would say you almost owe it to them to evolve it into something new and individual to you, therefore moving away from the original. Failure to do this would leave you closer to biting rather than influencing territory. Parts of these ideas are relevant to Askew, others not so. But I am sick of reading such a fucking stupid argument that 'everyone takes influence so all style is fair game'. The consequence of this kind of argument is that toys get to capitalise of the hard work of style pioneers without the need to pay respect or give credit. I like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocks Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Where can one read said interview? Looked back through the thread but didn't see anything... said interview is here-: http://ilovegraffiti.de/eng/2010/01/31/smash137-interview/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getsum5 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 this nigga is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakbad Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 This kind of argument seems to rear its ugly head more and more these days. It's essence is this; All graffiti is influenced from somewhere which makes it a mute point to say someone is 'biting', therefore it is acceptable to copy other peoples style. This problem with this perspective that it ignores degree's of influence taken, contribution to development of the style, and overall progress away from someone else's style. Of course all graffiti has similarities, it would not be graffiti if it didn't. However, acknowledging this does not give you licence to go and copy an Atom or a Smash piece (for example). While it has never been acceptable to take multiple elements of someone else's style (without their permission), a natural level of common influence is expected, like a kick on a letter, or a general colour scheme. This kind of influence would rarely be responded to as biting. In contrast taking more than this kind of low level influence would be. Subsequently if you do then take some kind of influence you are expected to develop it. Just taking an idea from someone else and continually rehashing it is not really acceptable. If you do take influence from another writer I would say you almost owe it to them to evolve it into something new and individual to you, therefore moving away from the original. Failure to do this would leave you closer to biting rather than influencing territory. Parts of these ideas are relevant to Askew, others not so. But I am sick of reading such a fucking stupid argument that 'everyone takes influence so all style is fair game'. The consequence of this kind of argument is that toys get to capitalise of the hard work of style pioneers without the need to pay respect or give credit. What happened to the original outburst of calling askew a cannibaliser of others style? From what I've seen, ASKEW has had many pieces of individual style, dating back years. Also, it seems that the people he's taken influence from are people he paints with. Youd be an idiot to think he hasn't helped the progression of those who he takes from(whether they like it or not) and therefore ultimately, the style that's being pushed.. You may not like his style as much as others.. You may not like the attention he gets compared to others.. From the range of askew pieces ive seen your argument isnt valid when it comes to calling him a biter, by your said views. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 What happened to the original outburst of calling askew a cannibaliser of others style? From what I've seen, ASKEW has had many pieces of individual style, dating back years. Also, it seems that the people he's taken influence from are people he paints with. Youd be an idiot to think he hasn't helped the progression of those who he takes from(whether they like it or not) and therefore ultimately, the style that's being pushed.. You may not like his style as much as others.. You may not like the attention he gets compared to others.. From the range of askew pieces ive seen your argument isnt valid when it comes to calling him a biter, by your said views. Please correct me if I'm wrong. ohh noooo! You got me with my own logic!!! hahah Its very simple kid, and I will correct you since you are wrong. First matey bit Daim and Loomit, then Atom and Can2, then Smash with a bit of Revok in the mix. Now Ill be the first to say he did very it well, but its painfully clear that he has taken a lot more than he contributed. It also doesn't really matter if he has imitated the people he has painted with or not. Askew is a big boy and should be able to get some of his own shit going. Since Askew is putting himself out there as a style writer, rather than a bomber, or a train painter, then that is the platform he will be judged on. Call me traditional but in my book good style writers are style pioneers not technically minded imitators. Anyway I'm out. I don't care enough to get caught in some huge back and forward discussion. I just come in here for laughs sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo lovegun Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 wow, things are really getting serious in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Why is everyone so concerned with what this guy is doing? Don't hate congratulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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