Q41Juice Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 ahah right on. im having a hard time finding a shell for a 70 foot cryogenic reefer. everything is either 60 foot, or an 86 foot auto parts extendo. nothing in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 couldnt you kitbash an 86 foot car? That would probably be your best bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 i feel like 86 feet is just tooooo long. i dunno. would you think an 86 foot reefer would look correct? i dont, but maybe i just really dont have an eye for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko SprueOne Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I think B40-8 is suggesting cutting down an 86 foot to a 70 foot (kitbash) some say, kitmash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Yea,, you'd basicaly take the 86 foot and cut it to make a 70 foot reefer. I'll see if i can find some examples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 whoa, that'd be gnarly! as for cutting it down, how would you propose doing that as to getting a clean cut for the shell and the underframe so it wouldnt look fucked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 or something like it. probably need some kind of vice as well. im sure there is a tutorial on kitbashing online somewhere. as for the straight lines i would imagine scoring it with a regular razor may be a good idea. also measure the length cut by the 70' chassis. would suck to under or over cut the car and then the underframe does not fit. disclaimer: this is all theory, i have never done this before. one thing to consider. see the door on the tropi reefer and the door on the 86'er may be a bit of a challenge. Im sure it wont be long before someone produces these for sale - or at least a resin kit. but if you welcome the challenge then id say go for it. im interested to see how it turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 yeah i'd have to cut the door and then cut a little off each side probably. i might be able to get away with just the door though. maaan thats some tough shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 lol - no shit. youd have to get surgical with that razor saw though. certainly not a 20 minute job. getting the car sized and built is one thing. then youd have to secure the straw in the orange logo. not to mention the hand rails, planks and frig unit on the end. im not at all trying to sound discouraging, to the contrary, id like to see it attempted...hell, the more i talk about it the more i want to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Zed is right, i completely forgot about the double/single door. Your other option is to take a 70 ridged boxcar, and sand the ridges flat, and then smooth it out and such. In a recent garden railways magazine or something, (im looking for you) they did an article about creating a 72' containter out of two smaller containters, though its not the exact same thing, it is very similar in idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 i really appreciate all the advice and help guys, ive never seen a 70 foot box, nor a kit for one. and i'd definitly sand off the ridges, seeing as how ill repaint it as long as i get em flat you wouldnt know. know where to find 70 foot boxes or kits for em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I was looking for one for you, i'm actually on my way to the hobby store, so i'll let you know what i can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 if im not mistaken, what we know as baby ridges are 70' reefers. like the tropis on the last page. a google search for 70' HO scale reefers yeilded this: which is the same as the tropis from the last page - which is the same as UPFE, BNFE and most other ridged reefers from the last 20-30 years. the tropis we see today were custom built for tropicana though, and they look longer than 70',especially with all this shit on the end: so to get a true modern tropi (flat with the straw & orange logo) you would have to do some bashing. theres no way around it. sanding the ridgs down is a good idea. be careful sanding or cutting any model train equipment. a lot of this shit is made in china and may have lead based paint. if possible do it outside and wear a mask or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 those baby ridges are 57 footers. and i have found 60 foot extended height kits. but i just dont know if that'd cut it that tropicana photo is interesting though, with UP power on the head end. haha. b40-8, thanks man! let me know what you find, i'd be stoked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Didnt yield any results at the local hobby store. I would say the 86 foot car might be the best bet. Cut out the doors and fill in the sides with putty to make is smooth like real reefers. They are excess height already and the same basic design, probably would prove to have the least amount of reworking. I think i may give it a shot myself and see how it turns out. In the new garden railways there is a demo on kitbashing, though its a boxcar to passenger car, still would prove to have some valuable info i bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakn'da'law Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 kitbash maybe....alot of work......... i say better bet is just using a walthers cryogenic 70' reefer shell, they may even make unmarked shells still. or just use one of their older kits and sacrifice the logo for a trop or icicle decal project. i got a lambweston with arcticar decal 70' off ebay and for a great price..im pretty sure the person who originally made the car had a blank shell i have a mcaine arcticar id like to alter.....hmmmmmm!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I wasnt aware that they made those shells. Thats why i suggested that he kitbash a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 that articar is a banger! send it my way and ill do it up for you bro. but yeah, i cant find 70' shells anywhere. quite a bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereo Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Walthers makes 70' reefers here are some model numbers 932-5451 Arcticar 932-5452 Simplot 932-5453 McCain 932-5454 Carnation 932-5455 Cryo-Trans 932-5456 Universal Foods 932-5450 Undecorated http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/walthersfreightcars/id126.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakn'da'law Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 ^^^ thats what im talking about.......someone should make a lambweston/inland valley....whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 ha ha yessss, stero comin thru wit the goods. does anyone have one of these? i see they were produced around 1993. ironically, i got raided painting one of those in 1993. thats pretty trippy~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereo Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 iv got the one pictured above, and a simplot and regular cryo on the way.I let ya get one of the cryo's if ur interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q41Juice Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 i would be very interested. PM me with a price and we'll see whats good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereo Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 alright. if zed don't want it il pm ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 i appreciate that but nah i alreade spent too much this month on trains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 i never knew cryo's had the numbers up top too. cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko SprueOne Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I don't have a story like Zed's but that is an attractive piece of plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B40-8 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 i never knew cryo's had the numbers up top too. cool. they dont, the model is inaccurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 the plot thickens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed_Eastwood Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HoCT...eature=related pretty fucking ill G scale layout... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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