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*Bowling For Columbine

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OK, maybe theres another thread about this.

I saw it last night, its fresh as fuck, the direction and the editing is smart and in my opinion it hits the nail hard without being cheap. That dude has a great sense of humour and also proves he has the balls to actually backup what he sais. That film revealed to me things about america and gladly summed up a lot of my thoughts about your politics...I remember Kabar speaking highly of the NRA, i would really want to hear what he has to say about the film. Charlton Heston has the IQ of a square wheel, Canada is awesome or it appears to be so. And i wouldnt want to believe that Americans are like this but it appears that the majority is...

 

 

btw, "Its a wonderfull world" by the Ramones sounds dope

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Guest krie

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Guest sneak

some ppl wanted me to go see it last night. i thought no id rather fuck the girl friend:crazy:

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Guest BROWNer

i saw it a bit back...

its pretty good, but..IMO sometimes michael moore has a bad

habit of coming off like he's giving you the inside

scoop while glassing over the 'other side' of the story.

he also leaves things up to the audience that i'm not

sure should be left to them...example: in the film

he talks about how many deaths by guns happen

in a bunch of countries. he starts out with a few

and you're just waiting for the US numbers, and then

BOOM, there's the US figure, absurdly high. what he

fails to mention is that the US population is much

larger than most of the comparitive countries'

populations. its an effective but misleading way of

presenting a chunk of the whole. other than that i think he's pretty

bang on with most of it. charlton heston is a scumbag

and hopefully everyone that sees it will see him for what

he is. i thought the stuff about him throwing gun rallies

right after two massive tragedies was the lowest and even

disgusting that he claims he had no knowledge of these events

even happening.

i think deep down he knew it was low.

and throughout

the movie i was really hoping he would shave that

grotesquely sorry excuse of a beard off.

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Originally posted by BROWNer

in the film

he talks about how many deaths by guns happen

in a bunch of countries. he starts out with a few

and you're just waiting for the US numbers, and then

BOOM, there's the US figure, absurdly high. what he

fails to mention is that the US population is much

larger than most of the comparitive countries'

populations. its an effective but misleading way of

presenting a chunk of the whole.

 

I remember the numbers preety much and i have the impression that you can add all european countries and canada's population and still have significant smaller numbers...but in anyway i think its a detail that you speak off, in my opinion his data seem fair and well rounded to me...i'm not american so i might be missing stuff but i didnt have the feeling i'm being misleaded

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Guest BROWNer

i mention that becuz, first, when i was watching it occured

to me that he was not stating this, and secondly, after we

left the theatre a group of adults behind us mentioned the

figures but not the population difference. plus its a fairly

large point in the movie, which is 'americans have a massively

large gun death rate compared to every other civilized country'.

even if its apparent to most, you shouldn't glass over that

kind of stuff.

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yall are funny....

 

 

bottom line, the world is not going to be a safer place if guns are banned....

 

 

think about it, if the police and army have all the firepower, whos going to keep them in check?? if guns are banned, only criminals can have guns....we cant keep drugs or illegal aliens out of our country, how are we going to keep guns out??

 

conceal carry permits are a blessing........

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Guest imported_Tesseract

Brown, i kinda lost you there...dictionary help...'glass'?

 

Choser..i dunno man, as not being american i dont really feel valid enough to speak...point is that in europe for example we aint got guns, the police does...there are other ways of 'checking'. Criminals have guns in europe but not many either...One thing i can say for sure:

 

When guns are banned its harder to find them, top notch criminals may have so, but top notch criminals dont use them as a crackhead or an angry retarded teenager does. People here get stabbed and beaten, there is violence everywhere. But less guns=less deaths its to easy to kill.

 

In the end i think its a matter of different culture, how you deal with things

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Originally posted by Tesseract

btw, "Its a wonderfull world" by the Ramones sounds dope

 

Not when you hear it three times every fucking day.

 

I could sit and recite that entire movie for you right now.

 

:mad:

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Guest imported_El Mamerro
Originally posted by Tesseract

Canada is awesome

 

You had me until that part...

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Guest imported_Tesseract
Canada is awesome or it appears to be so.

 

I think the whole sentence does more justice:)

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. michael moore manipulates every thing in his docu. so that only he can look smart this takes away the credibility from some of the points he makes that are actually valid....

he puts people in positions where nothing they can do will allow them to really speak their mind, he decides who will be his villains and heroes.

 

-did charlton heston shoot that little girl?

-did the lady at kmart sell eric harris and dylan klebold their bullets

-was the los angeles police man not just doing his job?

 

michael moore is a self centered fat obnoxious egomaniac and you can really see that in his film. it's a documentary about guns but the last shot of the movie is him bowling a strike.

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Originally posted by faggotassguy

 

fat

 

You had a valid argument until you brought the fact that he is fat into it. At that point you turned into a whiny 12 year old girl and you have lost all credibility in your argument.

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Originally posted by Tesseract

Brown, i kinda lost you there...dictionary help...'glass'?

 

 

He meant GLOSS...as in GLOSS over the stuff that would have weakened his argument.

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Guest BROWNer

actually i did mean glass:dazed:

but thanks for the correction mr. ass.

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Originally posted by socrates

You had a valid argument until you brought the fact that he is fat into it. At that point you turned into a whiny 12 year old girl and you have lost all credibility in your argument.

obese?

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yeah I saw it, overall i'd agree it was definately a good movie but i kinda feel what faggotass was saying about his presentation. In particular I disagree with the part where he's at Terry Nichols' tofu-farm and makes the guy out to be a moron for advocating armed resistance. Instead he mentions Gandhi? Shit, Gandhi was a nice person and all but in terms of improving the lives of india's people his pacifism didnt cut it. Indians are still pretty much slave labor for the west and their government has them in a nuclear cold war with Pakistan. Same goes for Martin Luther King--black people today are still just as segregated and in poverty, they form 70% of the prison population...so statistically speaking theyre no better off now then they were in his time. I really wanna smack these people who think they are undermining the system by doing "hunger strikes" and shit, dont they know that pacifism will never be enough to overthrow a violent regime?

 

Anyways, the gun issue is where i part ways with most "liberals". As Moore himself admits, its not simply the fact that we have guns that makes us so violent--Canada has guns easily available too, but they arent nearly as violent. Americans are more violent because they live in a system where lots of people's basic needs arent being met, so you have all this anger and jealousy. That said, it's still a good movie... I especially liked that animated "US history" part. :lol:

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Guest socrates
Originally posted by faggotassguy

obese?

 

His weight has absolutely nothing to do with the movie he could be all the things that he listed but why did he include his weight problem? I guess margret thacher did nothing becuase she had a shitty hair cut.

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Guest TEARZ

good topic

 

there's a lot about michael moore that is problematic.

i like him, but i admit this...

my girl called... hold on, i'll write back later...

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