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not that i think formal education has anything to do with someones level of knowledge (and i would hope you agree) but to humor you, i am a high school graduate. ill probably go back to school at some point but for the time being my mental enrichment comes from reading and surrounding myself intelligent, challenging people. how about yourself?

well, at the moment i cant get the video to load but from reading the description it sounds like it mainly focuses on antiquated examples of eugenics which are no longer practiced. as for its current view of "eugenics", again, i think you and many others need to revisit the definition of eugenics which ive posted below. eu·gen·ics –noun (used with a singular verb) the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, esp. by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics). from my knowledge and as this definition states, eugenics has always focused on reproduction, whether through sterilization of those deemed undesirable or incestuous practices meant to continue a noble blood line. THIS IS EUGENICS. eugenics is not abortion, eugenics is not advances in medicine, eugenics is not sexual education. improvement in quality of life is not equal to improvements in the qualities of humans....do you get what i am saying in the least? your definition is completely skewed!

what? im not good at heart? because of my signature (which is a joke) i cant comment on issues in which i am more educated than 99% of people here? im trying to figure out what youre saying here but its hard. you articulate yourself like a teenager.

holy fucking crap. are you joking? so lets say there is some grand design. it would be certainly be led by the people who have been in power for centuries, those people being christians. so, if those christians were using abortion to develop their "master race" wouldnt they be supporting abortion? opening clinics that dont condemn women for seeking an abortion? things of that nature? maybe planned parenthood is some type of puppet organization that only targets faith based abstinence only programs as a front while ushering in the socially inferior through the back door. seriously dude. you really have to stop with this "abortion is eugenics" shit. if you honestly view things like abortion, birth control and sexual education as some sort of grand exercise in race thinning then you need to stop reading infowars for a little while and get a handle on the real world that the rest of us live in. this garbage is making your 9/11 thread look intelligent. ps - i was going to get into the whole bill and melinda gates quip but dont even know that i want to dignify that. concern for health and well being does not equal some eugenicist plan. fucking christ man, come on.

you could look at it that way but personally, i would be (and am) hard pressed to find another way to act when tackling such an idiotic issue as religion. if you stand back and look at it, compared to the leaders and followers of the religion he attacks he actually carries himself very well. ps - if you think dawkins is a dick you should check out sam harris. that guys is great.

if it says "hate and kill people who dont believe what you believe" then ill probably believe it. anyway, fuck this. someone finally came up with something as absurd at the virgin mary in french toast. great. take it to the trailer park where i dont have to hear about it.

pretty funny

dogfighting is almost as cool as talking shit while waving guns around. nice job vick. now everyone has officially confirmed youre an insecure piece of shit who cant keep a handle on his boys. also, you were a shitty qb. every WR on your team is celebrating right now.

eddie griffin is stupid funny.

yes, they do. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/15723886/to_catch_a_predator_is_nbcs_primetime_dragnet_the_new_american_witch_hunt/5

seriously, your acting like there are no nuances to this candidate and i have to be either 100% against him or 100% for him. im not glossing over the positives. if you want me to jump in the circle jerk with you guys i can certainly talk about how much i like his views on foreign matters but i think this thread has quite enough positivity. im simply trying to point out the fact that he isnt this golden god that this rabid internet fanbase is making him out to be. hes a politician and has been for quite sometime. id be careful not to forget that.

so we both agree that quran is the direct word of god, correct? being that this is the direct word of god it would be reasonable to assume that a "real muslim" would follow the direct words of god as he himself has laid out. now with that said, here are a few of your gods words and wishes.... (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them." (Koran 69:30-37) "(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat." (Koran 5: 33-34) "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is forgiving, merciful." (Koran 22: 19-22) "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid will be poured down their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning." so, according to your "tolerant" and peaceful religion, you should be torturing me right now. do you see what my point here, even slightly? these are just a small segment of the many intolerant, militant passages in which god himself sanctions violence against non-believers. who are these "scholars" that posses such little understanding of their own religion that they can, with a straight face, write an article like the one above? it seems to me that the quran is an excellent textbook to those people who are currently committing atrocities against fellow muslims and non-muslims in the middle east and other areas around the world. this is the issue with religious moderates. how can you choose to practice those attributes of religion that are acceptable in our society while discarding those that are consider archaic by todays standards? are you not doing a disservice to your religion and god himself by altering his word to fit your life? it seems to cheapen it to the point where you may as well be an athiest with good values and morals. again, dawood, please note i am not singling out your religion. the last thing i would want anyone to see me as is selectively intolerant. i could duplicate what i have just done with other religions as well.

you put it best..."he has a different mind due to his beliefs". that is what i am wary of. as i said earlier, his actions lead me to believe he makes some political decisions based the teachings of his religion. maybe not nearly as many as george bush and his horrible administration of religious zealots, but the underlying views are there. now, if i happen to strongly disagree with the teaching of said religion, which i do, then it would stand to reason that i am not going to be very supportive of anyone who i feel could use those "values" in their decision making process. its that cut and dry. if he actually kept his faith to himself then he wouldnt be publishing insulting articles like the one above, he wouldnt be in support of bigoted policies such as "dont ask, dont tell" which only exists to cater to the moronic homophobia of christians (please, show me a homophobic atheist), he wouldnt be voting for vouchers for parochial schools....see what my big problem is here? as i said above, he is a smart guy with some good ideas but im not going to trumpet him as the great savior in this race because, in my eyes, he has glaring flaws. as far as another candidate who i feel would be a better choice? how about kucinich since we are on the topic of long shots. maybe even nader if he decided to run. look, you guys dont have to agree with me but your all sitting here acting like you cant understand why im not throating this guy. i honestly dont get it.

im not really 100% sure how ron paul can introduce legislation which states life begins at contraception and then turn around and "leave it up to the states". do you see why that would strike me a being completely suspect and contradictory? i think his strategy is quite intelligent and makes him stand out amongst the other candidates but deep down he is still a republican and is still pumping their social, faith based agenda. the website below does a good job of showing the transparency of his seemingly hands off approach when it comes to social issues he does not agree with. http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm my favorite jewel is his vote to ban gay adoption in DC, a state he has nothing to do with!!! how am i supposed to believe he will leave social issues up to the states when its documented that he has taken an active role to force his bigoted beliefs on others. as far as not supporting ron paul due to his faith, i would feel the same were he muslim or a member of any other absurd religion. im personally suspect of anyones ability to make a decision if they freely admit the believe in words of the bible and a god who takes an active role in our life. its insanity and i think the fact that this regard we hold for the sanctity of peoples religious beliefs is cowardly and harmful. in my mind it is just as important a factor as someones political record. faith is a very strong force and i dont believe that it can exist in a person without affecting their decisions. i was definitely in a reactionary, irrational mood when i stated that i wouldnt be listening to ron paul. i will be listening to ron paul because he has some good ideas. im just not willing to blindly jump on the ron paul bandwagon because of this adherence to the constitution that he is pimping these days. im just not convinced it is that cut and dry for him.

smash X 2.... ....that is all.

awesome, two self absorbed rappers debating. i think i would rather have my face chewed off by a dog.

if there is a category for "creepiest mustache" ill own.

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first of all, thank you for the kind assessment of my character via internet. i always find those cute, especially when it comes from someone whom im disagreeing with. second, im not saying that ron paul have ever done anything unconstitutional. what i am saying is that from what i have seen it seems that each time he pulls this "leave it to the state as the constitution would have it" card, the majority of the current states rulings are in line with his views. abortion, marijuana, stem cell research...if left to the states this is not a battle ron pauls side would be on the losing side of. to restate myself in a less combative tone, i find it a little dubious. that coupled with his obvious religious undertones and what seems to me to be a willingness to bring faith based beliefs into politics makes me very wary of this whole ron paul celebration that is going on, regardless of how solid many of his views are. if you want to say im wrong, say im wrong, but please refrain from personal jabs at my intelligence. its fucking garbage.

i didnt realize that having a pathetic, black hole of a life could get you so much money. wow.

wow...that was all over the place. really good and really bad.

id get over it if he were my neighbor or a co-worker but he is running for the highest office in our nation! are you kidding? anyway, christianity (and obvious disdain for anyone who may be uncomfortable around his religion [also, quick note, it is suspected and in some cases confirmed that many of the founding fathers of mr pauls great christian nation were in fact athiests and diests. whoops!]) aside this leaving it up to the states is fucking garbage. i know you guys are dazzled by mr. government of the people here but you need to realize statements like that are made as to not set off the radar of people who could be turned off by such an idiotic stance. his websites statement pretty much proves my point.... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/ Life and Liberty The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle. In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. wow, so either he was really lucky and never saw a potentially life threatening situation in all of his 40 long years as a doctor, he was putting the lives of undeveloped beings above those of living, breathing women, or the majority of doctors are wrong and situations like this simply dont exist. amazing. In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, HR 1094. wait...its seems like that would essentially turn abortion into murder huh? no, no. hes taking a passive role. its the people decision after all....just as the founding father would want it to be. I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. yes, once again, quite passive. he is obviously more concerned with leaving it up to the state than he is about his cause. luckily it still works out for him since many states are working to ban abortion or place increased, unreasonable restrictions on the practice. I have also authored HR 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.” Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken direct action to restore protection for the unborn. As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion. Many of you may have read my book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected. Much can be understood about the civility of a society in observing its regard for the dignity of human life. as your naive statement proves casek, he is playing you guys hard and i have no doubt this is and isolated incident. ill be interested to see how the reaction to him changes as time goes on and the newness wears off. also, if you dont consider a self proclaimed hardline pro-lifer someone who is against womens reproductive rights then who exactly would be?

what you guys are saying could be true were it not for the books your respective religions are rooted in. when i have more time i definitely want dive into this but that is going to have to wait until tomorrow. in the meantime, dawood, id like you think about the various passages in quran and the various muslim traditions practiced in the middle east that promote violence, oppression and intolerance for other people and other religions. i think you may have even noted some of these passages in another thread where we had a similar discussion. my short point being is that for islam and christianity to be peaceful religions you cannot adhere to "the direct word of god".

how come nothing on college humor is ever funny? oh yeah, its for frat boys. i forgot.

chris farleys apartment was a shit hole