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Weight Training - Not Weight Loss

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Poop Man Bob, Jan 22, 2002.

  1. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    This question is a little more specific than Aser1ne's.

    I have no desire whatsoever to lose weight. I'm about 6'1" and weigh upwards of 145 lbs - mostly due to Crohn's disease, this thing affecting my small intestine.

    Anyway, I've started working out (lifting weights) but what to know what to eat that will help spur along the process of putting a few pounds on my frame. I want to stay as natural as possible because of the previously mentioned problem, so no GNC weight gainers or shit like that.

    Plus, any help in the area of weight training would be swello - such as how often to work out, anything basic to do, etc. I've been working out in my apartment complex's shitty weight room, which has little more than a few machines. Bench press, butterflies, shoulder pull-down thing (these are the correct names. Ha.)

    So. Yeah. Help. Please. :cool:
     
  2. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,358 Likes Received: 298
    Eat rich foods that have a lot of carbs. Basically the opposite of what was in the "I'm Fat" thread except for the sodas. To bulk up with some muscle, you would want to lift big weights with smaller reps. Work out every other day. Don't work out everyday. Your muscles need time to repair, they get bigger when they repair after being torn during the workout. To get cut lift smaller amounts of weight but keep those reps high.
    +weight -reps=Big Muscles
    -weight +reps=Cut ,definition
     
  3. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 233
    edited cause popgunwar said much better than i could...
     
  4. uh and yes

    uh and yes New Jack

    Joined: Jul 27, 2001 Messages: 4 Likes Received: 0
    if you want protein and dont want to eat a bunch of meat, opt for beans, cheese, and legumes... all of these have more protein than beef anyway.
     
  5. JoeyLawrence

    JoeyLawrence New Jack

    Joined: Dec 29, 2001 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    ok.... simple.....

    carbs on your day off. lift every other day (unless you want to lift daily, but i doubt you are going to be pounding creatine with some sort of chrons or whatever.) on my day off i pump carbs... tons of pasta, bread, cereal, etc.... on the days i actually lift i do the protein overload. Egg whites for breakfast with a big protein shake. Then a protein bar right before im about to go lift. Then I hit the gym and ride stretch. I then ride the bike or run the treadmill for 15 minutes. This starts up my system ya heard. Then its onto actual weight training. Lift a weight that is easy for you to do 5 reps of the first 3 sets, and then starts to get heavy on the 4th and fifth time. On the fourth time, add 10 lbs, then on the last set take 10 lbs off. this is a fast way to add more weight and bulk up bigger. Always mix up your routine to "trick" your muscles and make them hurt more. fuck i dont wanna type anymore. Protein on days you lift. carbs on days off. dont mix. OH....eat TONS of mashed potatoes and chicken and eggs on days you lift.

    simple. and always stretch good.
     
  6. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 40
    chicken.
    pasta. lots of it.
    carbs.


    when i put on a to of weight, it was basically from a steady diet offast food cigaraettes and beer. seriously, i just got fat and then went from there. fat turns into muscle no matter how you look at it. that was my route, might as well enjoy it.
     
  7. nails

    nails New Jack

    Joined: Nov 21, 2001 Messages: 46 Likes Received: 0
    When I want to put on mass I lift heavy and of course intake more carbs. but I also take Nlarge weight gainer its made by pro lab I think besides taking it as a drink I put it in my oatmeal. I also do dead lifts and its a hell of a way to get a massive back.
     
  8. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    Thanks for the help, duderonomis.
     
  9. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 233
    dont pass off weight gainer formulas as being 'un natural'... they are totally natural, just more of the natural stuff that puts on weight. also, i was on creatine for a while and dont front, that shit hooks you up. i bulked up alot faster after i started that. i didnt notice any side effects or strange shit either, and normaly im a freak about taking stuff so i would have noticed...
     
  10. ODW

    ODW Member

    Joined: Dec 28, 2001 Messages: 462 Likes Received: 0
    i copied this from my reply in aser's post. i hope it helps:

    I work out 6 days a week, here's my routine:

    Monday/ Friday: chest, triceps, shoulders, abs, 30-45 min. cardio
    Tuesday/ Saturday: biceps, back, 30-45 min. cardio
    Wednesday: Legs, abs, 30-45 min. cardio
    Thursday: Rest
    Sunday: 30-45 min. cardio, abs

    for cardio i do the EFX

    Monday workout:
    bench: warm-up set, pyramid sets of 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 reps
    military press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    french curls/ nose breakers: 3 sets x 8-10 reps, 10 presses after each set (this helps build your triceps and lower/ inner pecs)
    incline bench press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    shrugs: 3 sets x 15 reps
    tricep pull-downs: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    cable cross-overs OR decline bench press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    dumbell lateral raises: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    overhead tricep extensions with dumbells:3 sets x 8-10 reps
    abs
    cardio 30-45 min.

    Tuesday:
    barbell curls: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    seated rows: 3 sets x 15 reps
    seated hammer curls: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    lat pull-downs: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    preacher curls: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    reverse crunches: 3 sets x 25 reps
    cardio

    Wednesday:
    squats: warm-up set, pyramid sets of 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 reps
    leg extensions: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    leg abductions: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    calf raises: 3 sets x 20-25 reps
    lunges: 3 sets x 10 reps (each leg)
    abs
    cardio

    Thursday:
    REST!!!

    Friday:
    dumbell bench presses: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    military press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    french curls/ nose breakers: 3 sets x 8-10 reps, 10 presses after each set
    incline dumbell presses: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    shrugs: 3 sets x 15 reps
    tricep pull-downs: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    abs
    cardio

    Alternate Friday:
    close grip bench press: warm up set, 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    military press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    french curls/ nose breakers: 3 sets x 8-10 reps, 10 presses after each set
    close grip incline press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    shrugs: 3 sets x 15 reps
    tricep pull-downs: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
    abs
    cardio

    Saturday:
    repeat Tuesday

    Sunday:
    cardio
    abs

    basically my DONT'S in eating:
    never eat fried food
    no candy whatsoever
    no pop at all, very minimal juice...like 1 OJ for breakfast
    nothing high in saturated fat, i.e. butter!
    no fast food
    just think to yourself before u eat: does this serve any nutrirional purpose, or is it empty calories that will make me fat?

    what i try to eat:
    protein protein protein
    drink nothing but water, skim milk, protein shakes
    ALWAYS eat breakfast, breakfast is seriously so good for you, it speads up your metabolism better that any other natural thing
    i eat very often, i have like 5-7 small, nutritious meals a day...less also speads the fuck out of your metabolism

    supplements:
    the ONLY shit i use is Pro Performance 100% whey protein supplement; no hydroxycut, creatine, or anything else along those lines. i have a very strong ethic about my body, i do everything on my own. i dont want to rely on shit to do it for me.

    well dude that basically does it. i hope u appreciate all this fuckin typing. but for real, my routine works. i dont mean to sound cocky but: im 19 yrs old, i weigh 164 ish, and i bench 300 lbs. i have nothing but dedication for working out though. my whole schedule is designed around working out and i spend 2-2.5 hrs. in the gym on most days. i act as a trainer to my friends that lift and my routine has shown drastic improvements for them. well that's it. good luck dude. remember: effort, dedication, time, and be positive.

    any questions, hit me up on AIM: oldirtywilliams or email: oldirtywilliams@aol.com
     
  11. yokel

    yokel New Jack

    Joined: Oct 11, 2001 Messages: 18 Likes Received: 0
    i've gained 20 pounds since i started taking Cell Tech creatine. I was on a GNC creatine before.
    You don't need weight gainer if you have access to a lot of food. But if you work during the day and shit, then you may want to consider a weight gainer. Weight gainer usually just has a lot of carbs, protein, and calories. I'd say just eat til you can't stop. Eat a shitload of food before you go to sleep. Eat a shitload on your off days.
     
  12. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    I know that a lot of the whey protein and weight gainer formulas are natural ... unnatural was a bad choice of words on my part. I'm just trying to stay away from anything like Creatine because of my previously mentioned condition.

    I was on Creatine for about 4 months before I got sick, and I honestly think it lowered my immune system. I was getting sick all of the time - just colds and sore throats, but they never went away regardless of whether I stopped working out or what not. I suppose, much like everything else, that everyone's body reacts differently.

    ODW, I'll IM you later tonight. Thanks for the info.
     
  13. nails

    nails New Jack

    Joined: Nov 21, 2001 Messages: 46 Likes Received: 0
    the Nlarge stuff that I mentioned before works I went from 200 to 215,
    I was also eating pretty good. And with the heavy lifting I do. It bulked me up good, I dont use creatine just because I didnt notice much of a difference with it. But a lot of other people have.
     
  14. uh and yes

    uh and yes New Jack

    Joined: Jul 27, 2001 Messages: 4 Likes Received: 0
    i forget if you do either of the following:

    dont jog or do coke.
     
  15. ODW

    ODW Member

    Joined: Dec 28, 2001 Messages: 462 Likes Received: 0
    i used to take creatine and the shit worked. but like theres so much speculation on it like kidney failure and muscles turning to water when u get off it, its like u cant go wrong if u go natural. when i got out of the hospital from surgery, i was a lot weaker than before so i figured id start over naturally. that was prolly the smartest choice id made in a while.
     
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