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government conspiracies

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by 0scarmire, Mar 7, 2004.

  1. 0scarmire

    0scarmire Member

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    Give your views on any government conspiracies or anything weird you have ever seen heard or even felt...
  2. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Member

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  3. westy

    westy Guest

    Somebody once told me about a ray gun that the military has which heals fatal wounds (back to normal) on contact. I guess our military technology is some 150 years advanced.
  4. effyoo

    effyoo Elite Member

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    you were stoned and thats bullshit.
  5. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

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    Voodoo spirits get credit for Aristide's flight
    By Marcus Warren in Port-au-Prince

    President Jean-Bertrand Aristide did not flee Haiti because he lost his nerve. Neither did the United States blackmail him. No, the most satisfying explanation for the country's recent upheavals is that the spirits were offended and taking their revenge.

    Voodoo, an exotic synthesis of African, Caribbean and Roman Catholic beliefs, with freemasonry mixed in too, pervades every facet of life in Haiti, so its role in the downfall of Mr Aristide is, for most, beyond dispute.

    Just as its flags, murals, shrines, rum, rattles and images of madonnas and saints lurk, invisible from the outside, in slum temples, the religion underlies each momentous event in the nation's history.

    The rise and fall of Mr Aristide, its first democratically elected leader and an ordained Catholic priest who adopted as his symbol the cockerel, a voodoo icon, illustrates this. Mr Aristide, whose library contained many books on the national religion, was guilty of the voodoo equivalent of hubris and then struck down by its version of nemesis, several voodo priests said this week.

    Comparing himself to the heroes who won Haiti's slaves freedom from the French two centuries ago was a fatal mistake, they said, one that the heroes, by now spirits themselves, punished.

    He has yet to learn his lesson. Even from his African exile he was still quoting Jean-Jacques Dessalines, a giant of the struggle for liberty, complaining, that his enemies "had chopped down the tree of peace".

    Desperate to cling on to power, he also dabbled in what voodoo priests and priestesses called sorcery and the black arts, very different from the benign voodoo they claim to practise.

    The priests and priestesses were still reluctant to mention the president by name, but their disapproval shone through their careful choice of words. "There are some sacrifices that when you make them you pay for them very fast," said one of Haiti's best known priestesses, Gladys Maitre.

    Another, a designer of beautiful, sequined voodoo flags, suggested that the normal contract between man and spirits had, in Mr Aristide's case, been broken.

    "Some of the spirits are like politicians," said Silva Joseph. "They want something from you but they don't ask for it. And they perform a service for you to keep you in their power." Perhaps it was finally over for Mr Aristide, not when the Americans persuaded him to step down and flee the country last weekend, but a few days earlier, when Sister Ann, his voodoo priestess, left.

    Whatever the immediate cause of Mr Aristide's departure, it provoked a hair-raising outburst of violence and bloodletting on the streets. Here too, voodoo was everywhere.

    With the capital in the grip of armed gangs of looters, my guide through the mayhem, a former New York banker who is also a voodoo priest, wrapped a red scarf around our rear-view mirror.

    An evil spirit had crossed our path and we were at even more risk than the time when a thug had pointed a pump-action shotgun at the car, Jean-Daniel Lafontant told me later. Mercifully, the scarf's magic seemed to work.

    "Don't go down there," a voodoo sister, whispered at us the next day as we debated whether to venture into one of the most dangerous slums. We took her advice.
  6. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

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    So, who did fry those car locks?
    By Roger Franklin
    Inside America
    March 7, 2004

    Even in a town where the lovestruck can select from a roster of Elvis lookalikes to marry them at 4am, what happened three weeks ago in Las Vegas was pretty strange, even by the locals' standards. Late on the morning of February 21 - nobody is too precise about the exact time, initial location, or actual identity of the first caller - someone rang a locksmith and complained the remote-control locking system on the caller's late-model car was refusing to respond. The old-fashioned key, linked to the same circuitry, wouldn't work either, so could the locksmith send over a technician to fix whatever had gone wrong?

    A couple of minutes later, another locksmith's phone rang. Different caller. Same problem.

    By the end of the day, the best estimate is that police, fire brigade, locksmiths, car dealerships and tow-truck services had received at least 200 calls from motorists, and many who are still puzzling over the February 21 incident put the figure as high as five times that.

    "Maybe it's those little green men," joked Mike Estrada, a spokesman for the US Air Force's Nellis Air Base, about 160 kilometres north of Vegas. He was referring to the fabled Area 51 military research facility, which sits smack in the middle of Nellis's bombing range and where UFO buffs, conspiracy theorists and nutters of all persuasions have long maintained that the Pentagon picks apart space aliens and their crashed flying saucers.

    This time, the likely culprit, according to some, was a top-secret test of equipment intended to fry an enemy's circuitry. Is this the biggest exercise in paranoia since a drug-addled Hunter S. Thompson mistook the desk clerk at Circus Circus for a man-eating lizard? Only if you label veteran Pentagon watcher and weapons analyst John Pike, director of the Washington-based Global Security think tank, as a fruitcake, which he is not.

    "As a working hypothesis, the idea that a military test of some sort was responsible isn't that far-fetched," Pike told The Sunday Age last week.

    Still, being a man of science, Pike advocates checking the most likely explanations first. Trouble is, none of them pan out. Solar flares and static electricity have both been ruled out.

    Thus, by default, speculation returns to the rumoured goings-on at Nellis. And there, even though the evidence is circumstantial, the trail that begins in the desert is littered with tantalising clues. Take what happened in March 2001, when the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson returned to its home port of Bremerton in Washington State. Car locks went crazy there, too, although in a much smaller area.

    Could the US military have used Vegas as a covert test site for jamming and blocking technology before rushing it to Iraq for deployment in the field to stop remotely controlled bombs? Pike has his doubts, pointing out that while it would be relatively easy to fry 1000 car locks, the military would need to protect its own equipment at the same time.
  7. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

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  8. 0scarmire

    0scarmire Member

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    Bush destroyed the twin towers because the US is surrfering from Peak Oil so he blamed it on osama than got everyone worrying about terrorism and said Saddam is the head of terrorism just to go in Iraq and take there oil...
  9. Big Bruno

    Big Bruno Senior Member

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    ^^ that is fucking great!

    p.s. Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper
  10. 0scarmire

    0scarmire Member

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    Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper. Bill Cooper, former United States Naval Intelligence Briefing Team member, reveals information that remains hidden from the public eye. This information has been kept in Top Secret government files since the 1940s. His audiences hear the truth unfold as he writes about the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the war on drugs, the Secret Government, and UFOs.

    Bill is a lucid, rational and powerful speaker whose intent is to inform and to empower his audience. Standing room only is normal. His presentation and information transcend partisan affiliations as he clearly addresses issues in a way that has a striking impact on listeners of all backgrounds and interests. He has spoken to many groups throughout the United States and has appeared regularly on many radio talk shows and on television.

    In 1988 Bill decided to "talk" due to events then taking place worldwide, events which he had seen plans for back in the early 70s. Since Bill has been "talking" he has correctly predicted the lowering of the Iron Curtain, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the invasion of Panama. All Bill's predictions were on record well before the events occurred. Bill is not a psychic. His information comes from Top Secret documents that he read while with the Intelligence Briefing Team and from over 17 years of thorough research.

  11. ounceaddict

    ounceaddict Banned

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    sept. 11 was done by the jews
  12. 0scarmire

    0scarmire Member

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    Some crazy ass theorys
  13. why write?

    why write? Veteran Member

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    the earth is flat.....
  14. villain

    villain Veteran Member

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    I think I know the answer to this one. The southwest has been picking up the titles for car theft capitals as of late and it has been known for sometime in Detroit that you can bypass car security by shorting the alarm. This could be an instance of techie car theives experimenting with EMP or something. It would be interesting to see if in fact the car theft levels did rise.
  15. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

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