I hate FOX News

[baKesPurPs]

fox tells the truth

[Decyferon]

I think it's sad that a lot of innocent people will lose their jobs in this economy just because Brooks wouldn't resign and Murdoch Jr didn't want to take any of the wrap. So instead of 5 arrests there will be 500 job losses and James Murdoch has been given the perfect excuse to set in play the massive cost cutting exercise he wanted.

 

This

 

Is is disgusting that they are penalising all the staff (none of whom were working at the time of the hacking apart from Brooks who was the editor and knew all about it). But will the government do anything about it - no.

 

The weird thing is the phones they were hacking they wouldnt have got any stories apart from people who were hurting a lot spilling their guts to friends/family. I could probably write what they were talking about without needing to hack someones mobile phone.

 

They also hacked the phones of the family of soldiers that died in iraq/afghanistan. Generally just real scum behaviour.

 

Funny how Andy Coulson dropped homself in it, saying in court last year that he knew of no payments being made to police officers, then emails got released showing him authorising payments to police officers! Perjury charge anyone?

[grd]

There won't be any repercussions for those cunts, he ones who will ultimately suffer is the innocent staff of the screws who won't be able to find work in this recession in a dying field.

 

Did you see Hugh Grant on QT last night Decy? He did quite well for a sleb. I'd like to dunk Clifford in a vat of boiling oil.

[Decyferon]

no I missed QT, after watching Newsnight special on the whole thing I thought of watching something more lighthearted so watched Man vs Food lol

 

Although the last few times I have seen Hugh Grant be interviewed I have thought he has come off quite well. Clifford is such a cock I wanna inject him with crokodile and watch his flesh fall off.

[grd]

New Statesman

 

The bugger, bugged - Hugh Grant

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch

 

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After a chance meeting with a former News of the World executive who told him his phone had been hacked, Hugh Grant couldnt resist going back to him with a hidden tape recorder to find out if there was more to the story . .

 

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When I broke down in my midlife crisis car in remotest Kent just before Christmas, a battered white van pulled up on the far carriageway. To help, I thought. But when the driver got out he started taking pictures with a long-lens camera. He came closer to get better shots and I swore at him. Then he offered me a lift the last few miles to my destination. I suspected his motives and swore at him some more. (Im not entirely sympathetic towards paparazzi.)

 

Then I realised I couldnt get a taxi and was late. So I had to accept the lift.

 

He turned out to be an ex-News of the World investigative journalist and paparazzo, now running a pub in Dover.

 

He still kept his camera in the cars glove box for just this kind of happy accident.

 

More than that, he was Paul McMullan, one of two ex-NoW hacks who had blown the whistle (in the Guardian and on Channel 4s Dispatches) on the full extent of phone-hacking at the paper, particularly under its former editor Andy Coulson. This was interesting, as I had been a victim - a fact he confirmed as we drove along. He also had an unusual defence of the practice: that phone-hacking was a price you had to pay for living in a free society. I asked how that worked exactly, but we ran out of time, and next thing we had arrived and he was asking me if I would pose for a photo with him, not for publication, just for the wall of the pub.

 

I agreed and the picture duly appeared in the Mail on Sunday that weekend with his creative version of the encounter. He had asked me to drop into his pub some time. So when, some months later, Jemima asked me to write a piece for this paper, it occurred to me it might be interesting to take him up on his invitation.

 

I wanted to hear more about phone-hacking and the whole business of tabloid journalism. It occurred to me just to interview him straight, as he has, after all, been a whistleblower. But then I thought I might possibly get more, and it might be more fun, if I secretly taped him, The bugger bugged, as it were. Here are some excerpts from our conversation.

 

Me So, hows the whistleblowing going?Him Im trying to get a book published. I sent it off to a publisher who immediately accepted it and then it got legal and they said, This is never going to get published.Me Why? Because it accuses too many people of crime?Him Yes, as I said to the parliamentary commission, Coulson knew all about it and regularly ordered it . .

 

. He [Coulson] rose quickly to the top; he wanted to cover his tracks all the time. So he wouldnt just write a story about a celeb whod done something. Hed want to make sure they could never sue, so he wanted us to hear the celeb like you on tape saying, Hello, darling, we had lovely sex last night. So thats on tape - OK, weve got that and so we can publish Historically, the way it went was, in the early days of mobiles, we all had analogue mobiles and that was an absolute joy. You know, you just sat outside Buckingham Palace with a £59 scanner you bought at Argos and get Prince Charles and everything he said.Me Is that how the Squidgy tapes [of Dianas phone conversations] came out? Which was put down to radio hams, but was in fact Him Paps in the back of a van, yes I mean, politicians were dropping like flies in the Nineties because it was so easy to get stuff on them. And, obviously, less easy to justify is celebrities. But yes.Me And it wasnt just the News of the World. It was , you know - the Mail?Him Oh absolutely, yeah. When I went freelance in 2004 the biggest payers - youd have thought it would be the NoW, but actually it was the Daily Mail. If I take a good picture, the first person I go to is - such as in your case - the Mail on Sunday. Did you see that story? The picture of you, breaking down I ought to thank you for that.

 

I got £3,000. Whooo!Me But would they [the Mail] buy a phone-hacked story?Him For about four or five years theyve absolutely been cleaner than clean. And before that they werent.

 

They were as dirty as anyone They had the most money.Me So everyone knew? I mean, would Rebekah Wade have known all this stuff was going on?Him Good question. Youre not taping, are you?Me [slightly shrill voice] No.Him Well, yeah. Clearly she took over the job of [a journalist] who had a scanner who was trying to sell it to members of his own department. But it wasnt a big crime.

 

[NB: Rebekah Brooks has always denied any knowledge of phone-hacking. The current police investigation is into events that took place after her editorship of the News of the World.]

 

It started off as fun - you know, it wasnt against the law, so why wouldnt you? And it was only because the MPs who were fiddling their expenses and being generally corrupt kept getting caught so much they changed the law in 2001 to make it illegal to buy and sell a digital scanner. So all we were left with was - you know - finding a blag to get your mobile [records] out of someone at Vodafone. Or, when someones got it, other people swap things for it.Me So they all knew? Wade probably knew all about it all?Him [] Cameron must have known - thats the bigger scandal. He had to jump into bed with Murdoch as everyone had, starting with Thatcher in the Seventies Tony Blair [tape is hard to hear here] Maggie openly courted Murdoch, saying, you know, Please support me. So when Cameron, when it came his turn to go to Murdoch via Rebekah Wade Cameron went horse riding regularly with Rebekah. I know, because as well as doorstepping celebrities, Ive also doorstepped my ex-boss by hiding in the bushes, waiting for her to come past with Cameron on a horse before the election to show that - you know - Murdoch was backing Cameron.Me What happened to that story?Him The Guardian paid for me to do it and I stepped in it and missed them, basically. Theyd gone past - not as good as having a picture.Me Do you think Murdoch knew about phone-hacking?Him Errr, possibly not. Hes a funny bloke given that he owns the Sun and the Screws quite puritanical. Sorry to talk about Divine Brown, but when that came out Murdoch was furious: What are you putting that on our front page for? Youre bringing down the tone of our papers. [indicating himself] Thats what we do over here.Me Well, its also because it was his film I was about to come out in.Him Oh. I see.Me Yeah. It was a Fox film.

 

[A pause here while we chat to other customers, and then - ]Him So anyway, let me finish my story.Me Murdoch, yes Him So I was sent to do a feature on Moulin Rouge! at Cannes, which was a great send anyway. Basically my brief was to see who Nicole Kidman was shagging - what she was doing, poking through her bins and get some stuff on her. So Murdochs paying her five million quid to big up the French and at the same time paying me £5.50 to fuck her up So all hail the master. Were just pawns in his game. How perverse is that?Me Wow. You reckon he never knew about it?Him [pause] I dont even think he really worried himself too much about it.Me Whats his son called?Him James. Theyre all mates together. They all go horse riding. Youve got Jeremy Clarkson lives here [in Oxfordshire]. Cameron lives here, and Rebekah Wade is married to Brookss son [the former racehorse trainer Charlie Brooks]. Cameron gets dressed up as the Stig to go to Clarksons 50th birthday party [NB: it was actually to record a video message for the party]. Is that demeaning for a prime minister? It should be the other way round, shouldnt it? So basically, Cameron is very much in debt to Rebekah Wade for helping him not quite win the election So that was my submission to parliament - that Camerons either a liar or an idiot.Me But dont you think that all these prime ministers deliberately try to get the police to drag their feet about investigating the whole [phone-hacking] thing because they dont want to upset Murdoch?Him Yeah. Theres that You also work a lot with policemen as well One of the early stories was [and here he names a much-loved TV actress in her sixties] used to be a street walker - whether or not she was, but thats the tip.Me and Chum MLTVA?!Me I cant believe it. Oh no!Chum Really??Him Yeah. Well, not now Chum Oh, itd be so much better if it was now.Him So I asked a copper to get his hands on the phone files, but because its only a caution its not there any more. So thats the tip its a policeman ringing up a tabloid reporter and asking him for ten grand because this girl had been cautioned right at the start of his career. And then I ask another policemen to go and check the records So thats happening regularly. So the police dont particularly want to investigate.Me But do you think theyre going to have to now?Him I mean - 20 per cent of the Met has taken backhanders from tabloid hacks. So why would they want to open up that can of worms? And whats wrong with that, anyway? It doesnt hurt anyone particularly. I mean, it could hurt someones career - but isnt that the dance with the devil you have to play?Me Well, I suppose the fact that theyre dragging their feet while investigating a mass of phone-hacking - which is a crime - some people would think is a bit depressing about the police.Him But then - should it be a crime? I mean, scanning never used to be a crime. Why should it be? Youre transmitting your thoughts and your voice over the airwaves. How can you not expect someone to just stick up an aerial and listen in?Me So if someone was on a landline and you had a way of tapping in Him Much harder to do.Me But if you could, would you think that was illegal? Do you think that should be illegal?Him Id have to say quite possibly, yeah. Id say that should be illegal.Me But a mobile phone - a digital phone youd say itd be all right to tap that?Him Im not sure about that. So we went from a point where anyone could listen in to anything. Like you, me, journalists could listen in to corrupt politicians, and this is why we have a reasonably fair society and a not particularly corrupt or criminal prime minister, whereas other countries have Gaddafi. Do you think its right the only person with a decent digital scanner these days is the government? Whereas 20 years ago we all had a go?

 

Are you comfortable that the only people who can listen in to you now are - is it MI5 or MI6?Me Id rather no one listened in, to be honest.

 

And I might not be alone there. You probably wouldnt want people listening to your conversations.Him Im not interesting enough for anyone to want to listen in.Me Ah I think that was one of the questions asked last week at one of the parliamentary committees. They asked Yates [John Yates, acting deputy commissioner of the Metropolitan Police] if it was true that he thought that the NoW had been hacking the phones of friends and family of those girls who were murdered the Soham murder and the Milly girl [Milly Dowler].Him Yeah. Yeah. Its more than likely. Yeah It was quite routine. Yeah - friends and family is something thats not as easy to justify as the other things.Me But celebrities you would justify because theyre rich?Him Yeah. I mean, if you dont like it, youve just got to get off the stage. Itll do wonders.Me So I should have given up acting?Him If you live off your image, you cant really complain about someone Me I live off my acting. Which is different to living off your image.Him Yeah, but youre still presenting yourself to the public. And if the public didnt know you -Me They dont give a shit. I got arrested with a hooker and they still came to my films. They dont give a fuck about your public image. They just care about whether youre in an entertaining film or not.Him Thats true I have terrible difficulty with him [points to pap shot of Johnny Depp]. Hes really difficult. You know, I was in Venice and he was a nightmare to do because he walks around looking like Michael Jackson. And the punchline was after leading everyone a merry dance the film was shot on an open balcony - I mean, it was like - he was standing there in public.Me And you dont see the difference between the two situations?Chum He was actually working at this time? As opposed to having his own private time?Him You cant hide all the time.Me So youre saying, if youre Johnny Depp or me, you dont deserve to have a private life?Him You make so much more money. You know, most people in Dover take home about £200 and struggle.Me So how much do you think the families of the Milly and Soham girls make?Him OK, so there are examples that are poor and you cant justify - and thats clearly one of them.Me I tell you the thing I still dont get - if you think it was all right to do all that stuff, why blow the whistle on it?Him Errm Right. Thats interesting. I actually blew the whistle when a friend of mine at the Guardian kept hassling me for an interview. I said, Well if you put the name of the Castle [his pub] on the front page of the Guardian, Ill do anything you like. So thats how it started.Me So, have you been leant on by the NoW, News International, since you blew the whistle?Him No, theyve kept their distance. I mean, theres people who have much better records - my records are non-existent. There are people who actually have tapes and transcripts they did for Andy Coulson.Me And where are these tapes and transcripts? Do you think theyve been destroyed?Him No, Im sure theyre saving them till they retire.Me So did you personally ever listen to my voice messages?Him No, I didnt personally ever listen to your voice messages. I did quite a lot of stories on you, though. You were a very good earner at times.

 

Those are the highlights. As I drove home past the white cliffs, I thought it was interesting - apart from the fact that Paul hates people like me, and I hate people like him, we got on quite well.

 

And, absurdly, I felt a bit guilty for recording him.

 

And he does have a very nice pub. The Castle Inn, Dover, for the record. There are rooms available, too. He asked me if Id like to sample the honeymoon suite some time: I can guarantee your privacy. Listen to the audio now Get the full magazine for just £1 a week with a trial subscription. PLUS get a free copy of Parting Shots by Matthew Parris and Andrew Bryson Post this article to

[CILONE/SK]

Crossfire gets no love, so here are some pics from Iraq.

Saddams Fish

Jack Rabbit in the back of my place

Tongan Army doing war dance

[KILZ FILLZ]

Didn't read whole thread but I'll address your first post.

 

I think that most of our generation feels the same way.

Seems as though the baby boomers are the ones who buy their crap.

Which sucks because we all know seniors vote in droves, so fox will be influencing that for the next few decades....

[CILONE/SK]

B&H, I agree.

 

I will never understand why young people do not vote.

[grd]

Idiots who don't vote really piss me off. Even if they just go and spoil their ballot it's better than being lazy and having the attitude that one vote won't make a difference. People died so they could have the right to vote the least they could do is show up.

[CILONE/SK]

I come across alot of people who can not figure pout the voting process. I try to school them, but I usually quickly see that they have no interest in the process. What bothers me, is that I usually find out that they do not vote because they are running their mouth off about something related to politics and shit they hear on Fox News. When I hand them their ass with facts, they have nothing to counter with, except rhetoric and talking points from Fox News.

 

I wish more people would spend some extra time educating themselves.

[angelofdeath]

 

I wish more people would spend some extra time educating themselves.

 

this is GREAT advice.

you should try to follow it occasionally.

 

<3

[CILONE/SK]

I think you need to take your blinders off and get a more worldly view.

[Balance]

Idiots who don't vote really piss me off. Even if they just go and spoil their ballot it's better than being lazy and having the attitude that one vote won't make a difference. People died so they could have the right to vote the least they could do is show up.

 

Its because voting is illusionary power. 9 out of 10 candidates that spend the most money aka have the most corporate backing win their races (http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/11/money-wins-white-house-and.html.) On top of that, the two-party system consolidates power in the hands of the wealthy. You're voting for one-side of the coin, but its all the same corrupt, elite-serving coin.

 

Generation Y's political apathy is rampant, and honestly you can't blame us to a large degree. People need to wake up, myself included, without question, but growing up in the 8 years of the Bush-Blair Administrations with publicly aired government corruption at a crescendo, the mass psychology of it is undeniable.

 

Yo and fuck FOX too. I really hope the Attorney General Office's investigation dissolves News Corp or substantially hurts them and their stockholders.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-corp-global-investigation-bribery

[grd]

I'll agree they're all pretty corrupt which is why I said even if you just go to spoil your ballot at least you're showing you're not apathetic and making a point. Anyway, I'm Welsh, we don't have a two party system here. I haven't really read your post properly sorry, because I'm too busy laughing at this...

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8646558/The-Suns-website-hacked-by-LulzSec.html

[Balance]

^awesome

[CILONE/SK]

Anyway, I'm Welsh,

 

I thought you were American.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cunt:cool:

[grd]

haha

[JOEMACKSPAINTHXA]

fox's is good 4 one thing not news...hit the mute button and enjoy the view... on those drunken early mornings...

[hitherwiththemule]

most of my fellow white people watch fox news like if their lifes depended on it.

They don't even question the credibility of the things being "reported"

but hey at least I am not one of those lol

 

ahh my race is so passively racist.

[NorteRed]

onion news is possibly the best source for truth

[viperface]

I'm pretty sure Fox News is a comedy show written by a large group of French postmodernists

[Inappropriate_Responder]

[viperface]

Fox News uses Greek riot footage in context of Russian elections.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=617_1323355164

[blk]

Im pretty sure Fox News is the most dedicated and fair source of news this country has to offer. Along with The Onion

[jib25]

Fox is Horse Shit

[McLovin]

[geargff]

Fox news is good for a laugh

[onlinepsychics]

I approach across a lot of people. I can not build sulk the voting course. I attempt to prepare them, but I quickly see. They have no attention in the course .They do not take part in a ballot because they are running their mouth off about something linked to politics and shit they listen to on Fox News. They have nil to answer with, excluding speech-making and discussion points from Fox News.:scrambled: