Porcelain Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 its the effort that counts. if you swing enough, you are bound to hit something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Butter Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 at least you didnt get shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 its the effort that counts. if you swing enough, you are bound to hit something But you can only swing at the balls that are thrown for you. Not too many people are willing to work at McDonalds for $5.50 an hour. Shit's gotta change. We need industry to return to this country. More real jobs for the have nots + no more lead contaminated toys + less people having to resort to hustling and robbing niggas to get by = win/win. /nocrossfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 true true. but its the spirit that comes with it. america has a bunch of sore loosers. but we do need more jobs. and with the current housing problems we have right now. please correct me if im wrong, but i heard some shit that, we are ganna loose 1.7 trillion dollars in homes or some shit. and 500,000 jobs will be lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire15 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Correct me if im wrong... but uhhh... Im getting the fuck out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Didn't feel starting a new thread, but it could be worse: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2007/12/08/2007-12-08_a_train_victim_talks_may_go_to_cops.html#video Go to the end of the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Oh yeah related to this thread i read this on the chronicle website today Nearly half of all murders in Oakland go uncharged for lack of a willing witness, so a shooter knows he has about a 50-50 chance of getting away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Awesome. I'm taking a couple people to Oakland with me and shoot them fuckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 a good movie to watch: the spook who sat by the door walnut creek: possibly one of the wackest cities in ca? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I was born here Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Oh yeah related to this thread i read this on the chronicle website today http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/08/MNS1RBLQ5.DTL Good read. I definitely made some connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Didn't feel starting a new thread, but it could be worse: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2007/12/08/2007-12-08_a_train_victim_talks_may_go_to_cops.html#video Go to the end of the video. ^Real talk... homeboy's a fucking pussy. Fuck that not hitting girls bullshit. If they wanna act up like they men then treat them as such. That's one example of an instance where "don't hit girls" goes right out the window. I woulda jawed the shit out of each and every one of them dike ass bitches one after the other. Full throttle. Fucking nut ass dikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Some bitches should get stitches. I have friend who stays in the NY and says this is happening more. He got harassed by some kids when he was jogging and they got mad at him like he did something wrong. Them fucking Bebes kids man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/08/MNS1RBLQ5.DTL Good read. I definitely made some connections. 115??? Yall only got 115 murders this year??? Yall know that 115 is a pretty low murder rate right? Fucking media! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 We top 25: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 That study also reaks of bullshit. How the fuck we have a higher murder rate than countries like Samolia and Iraq etc??? Fuck outa here. Yall gotta stop falling for this shit. Every major city in the US is bitching about the murder rate being insane lately. Fact is, is that it's half that of what it was in the early 90's. If you don't believe me, look it up for yourselves. The media is just trying to use fear tactics to sway everybody into backing the comming police state. As if we're not already there as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 115??? Yall only got 115 murders this year??? Yall know that 115 is a pretty low murder rate right? Fucking media! :lol: Dude...there's only 400,000 people in Oakland. Plus, those murders are concentrated in three neighborhoods. I used to live in one of those neighborhoods. If you still live where you used to live, then your west side of town is like our west side of town. Our east side of town is like your south side. According to folks I know who lived in both places. That's just to give you a point of reference. How many people have been killed this year where you're at? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 That study also reaks of bullshit. How the fuck we have a higher murder rate than countries like Samolia, Iraq etc??? Fuck outa here. Yall gotta stop falling for this shit. Every major city in the US is bitching about the murder rate being insane lately. Fact is, is that it's half that of what it was in the early 90's. If you don't believe me, look it up for yourselves. The media is just trying to use fear tactics to sway everybody into backing the comming police state. As if we're not already there as it is. somalia barely has a functioning ogvernment i doubt theyd round up a commitee to see how many murders are being commited same with iraq kinda shits in chaos and people have better things to be doing that figuring out their murder by capita rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
count chocula Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 fools be die'n n shit foo hella coo we be crazy cuss cuss straight stewey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 somalia barely has a functioning ogvernment i doubt theyd round up a commitee to see how many murders are being commited same with iraq kinda shits in chaos and people have better things to be doing that figuring out their murder by capita rate ^Exactly. But still, America today is tame as fuck compared to 10-15 years ago. And people got a short term memory and actually believe this media hype bullshit. And they're all shaking in their boots and praying for a stronger police dominance. Just like the government and media wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 DAO: I know that shit is on some BS. Most studies/statistics are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 DAO: I know that shit is on some BS. Most studies/statistics are. ^True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Dude...there's only 400,000 people in Oakland. Plus, those murders are concentrated in three neighborhoods. I used to live in one of those neighborhoods. If you still live where you used to live, then your west side of town is like our west side of town. Our east side of town is like your south side. According to folks I know who lived in both places. That's just to give you a point of reference. How many people have been killed this year where you're at? Just curious. If you're talking about Philly, last I heard it was 300 something. And that was a few months back. And that's still tame as shit compared to the early 90's. And there's alot more people living in Philly now than there was then. Out of curiosity, you think you could dig up oaklands murder rate any year from the early 90's? Just to compare it to now? I remember bringing this up in another forum and somebody actually looked it up and the murder rate in I think it was 1990 in Philly was 500 something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 ^Exactly. But still, America today is tame as fuck compared to 10-15 years ago. And people got a short term memory and actually believe this media hype bullshit. And they're all shaking in their boots and praying for a stronger police dominance. Just like the government and media wants. This is partially true. But, check it out- 415,492 divided by 115 is about one murder for every 3,600 people. Where you're at, it's 1,517,550 divided by 373, or 1 murder for about every 4,060 people. That's just statistics, it doesn't mean shit's more wild here or less wild there. It means that it's roughly 10% more likely to get killed on the streets of Oakland. I looked up the numbers online, they're out there if you want to check my math. Both cities obviously have it bad. It's a tragedy anyway you look at it. I think the reason a lot of this shit is happening is that more money is being spent on national defense and incarceration than on education, health care, or job development. But, that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuff Tone Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I've been robbed before, comming out of this place i guess they saw my camera and had to have it, but the camera was one of these and those fucks got me for my camera back in 03 oh yeah plus 10 bucks, they made out like bandits that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I was born here Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 For the record, I never said anything about murder quota before this. I don't think it's anything to boast about either. http://www.urbanstrategies.org/programs/csj/oak_homicides.html According to this, 148 last year. That's a fair sized decrease compared to this year. Maybe violence in general has been declining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 If you're talking about Philly, last I heard it was 300 something. And that was a few months back. And that's still tame as shit compared to the early 90's. And there's alot more people living in Philly now than there was then. Out of curiosity, you think you could dig up oaklands murder rate any year from the early 90's? Just to compare it to now? I remember bringing this up in another forum and somebody actually looked it up and the murder rate in I think it was 1990 in Philly was 500 something. Yeah. It peaked somewhere around 150 in 1993, I think. But, Oakland was SO fucking crazy back then. Thank crack for that. Same with Philly. Same with DC. There's a town called East Palo Alto across the Bay that had the highest per capita rate for a few years running in the 90's. I used to buy dope there. It was fucking SICK. Dirt roads, chickens in the street...most of the streets were dead ends, and the dealers would park nose-in. If shit went down or they felt like jacking someone, they'd back the cars up and block people in and open up on them. It's calmed down a lot since then, but that was all crack-related too. I'm looking for the actual numbers right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 This is partially true. But, check it out- 415,492 divided by 115 is about one murder for every 3,600 people. Where you're at, it's 1,517,550 divided by 373, or 1 murder for about every 4,060 people. That's just statistics, it doesn't mean shit's more wild here or less wild there. It means that it's roughly 10% more likely to get killed on the streets of Oakland. I looked up the numbers online, they're out there if you want to check my math. Both cities obviously have it bad. It's a tragedy anyway you look at it. I think the reason a lot of this shit is happening is that more money is being spent on national defense and incarceration than on education, health care, or job development. But, that's just me. I think you're missing my point. I'm not trying to say that one city is badder than the other, I'm just saying that shit today aint nearly as wild and murderous as the media is trying to make it out to be. Or at least not as crazy as it was when you and I were coming up. I can't speak for Oakland, but I know FOR A FACT that Philly is tame as shit nowadays compared to how it was when I was a teenager. And from stories I've heard, you couldn't even walk through most neighborhoods in the 1970's if you weren't from there or at least with somebody from there. I'm just saying that the media is hyping shit WAY beyond what it is. And they're doing the same headlines in alot of cities across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Same with Philly. Same with DC. There's a town called East Palo Alto across the Bay that had the highest per capita rate for a few years running in the 90's. I used to buy dope there. It was fucking SICK. Dirt roads, chickens in the street...most of the streets were dead ends, and the dealers would park nose-in. If shit went down or they felt like jacking someone, they'd back the cars up and block people in and open up on them. It's calmed down a lot since then, but that was all crack-related too. palo alto is weird....you have million dollar homes (close to downtown)...then you go over the freeway and BAM!...ghetto!... you have stanford there....and you have tongan crips.. thats weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fondles Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 people are hard these days what can you do? hahaha, you got that wrong my friend. People these days are soft as baby shit. Technology and evolutions in our consciousness have changed the world considerably. Consider how society functioned back in 200 B.C. or even 1200 A.D. Shit was raw as fuck then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Freeways are a good way to divide those who have and those who don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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