WHOWHAT Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Originally posted by BMT...SMS+Feb 7 2006, 07:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BMT...SMS - Feb 7 2006, 07:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-CHUY CRISTO@Feb 6 2006, 06:35 PM :burn: :burn: :burn: :burn: :burn: :burn: Quoted post Good Look...... Were's this at. I never got the flick, it rolled out a few minutes later! Quoted post [/b] its got a tm stamp on it..so i would say tennesse maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMT...SMS Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Originally posted by CHUY CRISTO+Feb 7 2006, 05:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CHUY CRISTO - Feb 7 2006, 05:37 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by BMT...SMS@Feb 7 2006, 07:19 PM <!--QuoteBegin-CHUY CRISTO@Feb 6 2006, 06:35 PM :burn:Â :burn:Â :burn:Â :burn:Â :burn:Â :burn: Quoted post Good Look...... Were's this at. I never got the flick, it rolled out a few minutes later! Quoted post its got a tm stamp on it..so i would say tennesse maybe Quoted post [/b] What website is that from.. do you have a bigger picture size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 if there are 'tons' of writers all over the world doing philly styles, but are not from philly, they are biters and suckers, period. yes, i think regional styles should stay regional. unless you're from that area, or taught by someone from that area, you shouldn't be doing it. no matter how much you like radiohead, you're not gonna start speaking with an english accent are you? why would you copy a handstyle that's foreign to you? appreciate, but don't imitate. as for NY, there is no "NY' handstyle. never was. there are people from ny with famous hands, but nothing that defines the entire city. there's no need to defend or explain yourself to me (or anyone else). just take it all for what it's worth and do with it what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkingafter1 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hi everyone. How are you all doing? I am fine. Have a nice day. - KneeCap Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicole mole Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckoff Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 philly hands are for philly writers. no need for outtatowners to try to copy, leave it to the pros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheddar Bob Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 your welcome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antron Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 anyone got any KOSEK XMEN UAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaudius raines Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 no, i completly understand your ideology behind what your saying...... i do get constant insperation from other styles, NOT directly biting it but getting insparation from it, adding my own touch, and essentialy developing it over time.... but realy, thanks for your honesty, and oppinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock&rye Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I realy am not realy in to being a art critic allthow I have thought of a career as one. I do veiw most showings of work. so get some can- control/ undersand the consepes behind your work/ paint graffiti for 10 years and then mabby you wiil be ok with dealing with your operators. seeking needs to learn about influents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaudius raines Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 can control?.... what the fuck are you talking about dude? not to be an asshole but please tell me which photo shows i dont have constant or at least a decent cancrontrol of what i do?...... and as far as concepts go, all of the photos posted were all concepts originaly thought of/developed by myself...... i know i may come off as some toy ass kid but I DO know my history, im not claiming anything, and obviously open for criicisims... but not oppinions.... thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 all criticism is opinion. there's no reason to get upset at anything someone says to you. if they're better than you, learn from them. if they're worse than you, it doesn't matter because there are always still people better than you. there is always room to improve. riku, please tell me about 'influents'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I think it's alright to rock regional styles so long as you don't attempt to claim the shit as your own. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to dabble into putting their own edge on a pre-existing style? Fuck, if you wanna take this approach and apply it to something outside of graffiti just look at music: The Beatles were an amazing innovative band back when they first came out, there's no question about it... but shit really started to pick up once they decided to stop trying to make 'rock' music and decided to just write whatever type style song they could pull off to the best of their abilities by dabbling into all genres. Fuck... look at dudes like Rime who hardly even have a single style. Sorry, I'm walking out the door so that probably isn't worded so well. -Hot air from a faceless bellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 P.S. A "New York Handstyle" is just regular handwriting.. with some flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP635 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Influents, as in, more than one influent. Klaudius has one influent while Rock&Rye has many influents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaudius raines Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 by all means... im not upset, im just seeing some of te criticisims as biased...... and forsure i do see your criticisim as something to focus, and essentialy, improve on...... at least seeking's, seeking has reasoning ....... but not riku.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaudius raines Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I think it's alright to rock regional styles so long as you don't attempt to claim the shit as your own. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to dabble into putting their own edge on a pre-existing style? Fuck, if you wanna take this approach and apply it to something outside of graffiti just look at music: The Beatles were an amazing innovative band back when they first came out, there's no question about it... but shit really started to pick up once they decided to stop trying to make 'rock' music and decided to just write whatever type style song they could pull off to the best of their abilities by dabbling into all genres. Fuck... look at dudes like Rime who hardly even have a single style. very well put.... thank you, i aplaud your inteligence.... pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 unless she was making an esoteric reference to a plant or river, (while simultaneously misspelling 'maybe') the word is 'influence', and i know what it means, but thank you. now, to use it in a sentence... there is a difference between influence, adaptation, and plagiarizing. until you can understand the elements that make a style what it is, you'll never be able to build off it, only bite it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDIAN Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 YOUR SUCH A POMPOUS KNOW IT ALL LITTLE JERKOFF, I BET YOU DONT HAVE ANY FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS TRY TO OVERCOMPENSATE FOR BEING A DORK BY TRYING TO SOUND SMART, GRAFFITI IS SO BELOW YOU I CANT BELIEVE YOU PAINT, IVE NEVER HATED SOMEONE SO MUCH I HAVE NEVER MET AND I KNOW YOU GET OFF ON THAT BUT SINCE ALL YOUR GOING TO DO IS TALK ON HERE I FIGURED WHY NOT PUT IN MY PENNYS WORTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkingafter1 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Yeah Seeks, damn, is that really like all you care about is Graf? I like to Bomb stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khartoum Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 That G-Unit shit is awful; you'd think they'd have some sense of quality being so hood and all. That money love's scribble jams...and gay guys is also priceless. good looking out Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 naw, i'm really into jessica alba and elisha cuthbert too, but nobody asked me about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaudius raines Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 there is a difference between influence, adaptation, and plagiarizing. until you can understand the elements that make a style what it is, you'll never be able to build off it, only bite it. are you syaing that iam bitting?, because the way i see it,IAM building off it.... not one of my letters or letter structures for that matter were bitten, developed from a pre-existing style yes, but not completly plagerised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seeking Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i'm saying what i said: until you understand what makes a style what it is, and what makes it 'good', all you can hope to do is replicate what's been done with it. if you don't think it applies to you, that's fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP635 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 unless she was making an esoteric reference to a plant or river, (while simultaneously misspelling 'maybe') the word is 'influence', and i know what it means, but thank you. Anytime, good sir, anytime.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock&rye Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I do not disagree with your comments yet when I refer to influents I apologies “influence� I mean that there are many aspects to all artist developing style like you said and then having the devout and impulse to act on destroying property and creating on site Inver metal insulation on the street in the name off graffiti! Getting to this point there is many influence be it gang related or oppression, just inspiration, boredom whatever it is. I just wish this kid would look at why he is weighting and not if it looks cool or give a fuck what you think about it seeking. honestly until kids understand that then they will bite shit. It was when I learn about where it came from why I Wright that my life influences invoked my improvement and motivated me to paint good and right. Thank you Sekt for every thing. Detroit influenced me being oppress by my government, fuck me I am going to say it hip hop did it skating, riding bikes and different artist that I admire more for there thoughts work, brilliants and skill have influenced me in so this has to do with the subculture and the over all general style of the streets and if it is enemy thing other than that then you are just coping or biting and yes it does egests yo biting. I have just noted that you use the word a lot! “Biting� maybe its because you like typical cats and 1200 hobos ya that's cool. So with that entire sad rodeo douse not bit neck face it is all something totally different and in my observation rodeo should be selling work for like thousands of dollars. I have to go to earth science class now……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckoff Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 philly handstyles should NOT be attempted by an out of towner to the city oh philadelphia. its not just a style, its part of our culture here. seeking knows what he's talking about, anyone that dosent realize that is retarded. you're straight mocking dudes that have 20+ years under their belts writing in philadelphia using the philly tall prints and wickeds. you're from detroit, dont try to be philadelphia it aint gonna happen. 99.9% of writers do not understand philly hands and they never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock&rye Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 isn't that pretty much what I just said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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