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^ i can read the N...everything else.....no flow at all...look above..and read MORNHARD's rant...then practice things like this.....

 

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NOT THIS (says murc)

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but this...

04-18-2006knice.jpg

 

notice letter structer...veerry important.....

noooww get to work!

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How about you all shut the fuck up, stop bitching and give creative, helpful criticism and then, build on that? And if you get helpful, creative criticism, take it as that and learn from it.

 

The problem here is there are two problems...

 

1) stuck up assholes acting like they are the shit

2) some toys who can't take helpful criticism and whine like little bitches

 

If you don't fall into one of those two catagories, keep on doing your thing. If you do, check yourself...

 

Now, here's some constructive criticism...

 

C Da Skill: I give you credit for going simpler than most. Keep going that route. Right now your 3D has no vanishing points and is not consistent on all letters. Read this:

http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~demo5337/Group6/welcome4.html

 

dashsuperstud:

I can't see your shit... it's too small and blurry... don't make it HUGE but try to get a clearer image.

 

otaku:

The "O" is off a bit but mainly because you have the letters overlapping a bit except for that one. Bring it closer to the "T" and it will look good. This is a solid start. Keep drawing that and work on that 3D and try to master it but don't change those letters at all. You need to be able to draw them exactly the same over and over from memory. People should look at your sketches and say, "Why the hell do you keep drawing the exact same thing over and over?" and you can just respond with "Practice makes perfect."

 

This leads me to an important secret of graffiti, and something I wish somebody had told my ass when I was a toy:

 

A REAL WRITER DOES THE SAME LETTERS OVER AND OVER. Sure the pieces look different but here's an example:

Look at this piece by Cope:

http://www.graffitinet.com/img/graffiti/usa/newyork/trains/cope2_0new_45462683n.jpg

Now look at this one:

http://www.sixcentz.com/blackbook/cope.jpg

 

They look pretty different, right? But in reality, they are THE EXACT SAME LETTERS.

 

There are subtle differences. In the orange one, the "E" has a little part that is kind of poking into the "P" and the "O" has a little serif on the top. But look at the shape and layout... notice how similar they are.

 

EVERY TIME A WRITER DOES A PIECE, HE IS REDRAWING LETTERS HE HAS DRAWN A MILLION TIMES, and I don't mean the letters themselves as in what letters of the alphabet they are... I MEAN THE LETTER FORMS. The shape of them. He draws his "C" the same way every time. He draws his "O" the same every time. So on and so forth. It's the little touches... the extensions, the connections, the colors, etc. that he changes. Maybe, as he progresses, he comes up with more than one set of letters. Like two different ways to draw "C" and "O" and all the other letters in the name. Those are his styles. THINK ABOUT THIS.

 

What it means is that he has to practice those same letters over and over until he knows them. Think of your letter forms like cartoon characters. Bart Simpson is always drawn the same way in every episode. He wears different costumes, is in different situations and has different expressions, but he always looks the same. Your letters are like that. You have to understand how they work with each other, memorize how they are, then master it before you can start tweaking it over time to get wilder or more unique.

 

If you can't understand this concept or don't have the patience for it, QUIT RIGHT NOW. YOU WILL NEVER GET ANY BETTER AND WILL EMBARESS US REAL WRITERS. If you have the patience to keep practicing, LIKE YOU HAVE TO WITH ANY ART FORM, then keep at it and post the results here.

 

That concludes my lesson for today. Go out and hit the books and think about the shit I just said because it WILL help you. Trust me. I used to be a toy just like you.

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knice realli like ur first one...2nd and 3rd not too hot

 

hah..thanx....the 2nd is awful..the 3rd is decent..just showin structer tho...

 

Ive pretty much done plenty of simple block letters but needed something to fill my time and didnt find it too horribly bad

 

problem is..i cant read it... its all:scrambled: ....i didnt think that 2nd one was that bad until i posted it up and got destroyed a while back...

point is...u may have done plenty of simples and block letters..but if pieces like that are still coming out...go back to simples

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And before anyone starts dissing, here's an example of my shit for comparison to see I'm not some toy spouting off with no skill:

four_page_trash.jpg

 

I'm not showing you that to put you down. Just to understand that I can burn hard, and you might want to take my words as helpful advice and not act like an idiot in response. I'm trying to help you guys.

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And before anyone starts dissing, here's an example of my shit for comparison to see I'm not some toy spouting off with no skill:

four_page_trash.jpg

 

I'm not showing you that to put you down. Just to understand that I can burn hard, and you might want to take my words as helpful advice and not act like an idiot in response. I'm trying to help you guys.

yo your wack as fuck dude dont ever say shit like that ur letters are fuckin garbage, you dont burn at all and you are a fuckin toy and no one should take ur advise, u might want to start postin on here and get some help your self, dont act so cocky when ur toy your self
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And how can you not see shit?

 

This is what I'm talking about... I didn't post my shit to put anyone down. Just to show that I do have a little skill. I knew people were gonna diss anyway because they are jealous fools... I expect that. But hey, if my advice is not appreciated, lots of luck fellahs. Have fun!

 

SATIRE * IOF CREW * SEVS CREW

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Thanks maza.

 

 

 

 

Oh... and for the record... I did a search of that little bitch Live Fat Die Young's posts... he's a fucking troll.

See for yourself:

http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/search.php?searchid=71153

 

All he EVER does is talk shit. Bitch even talks about battling but never posts a letter.

 

I suggest you all do like me... pull up his profile and add him to your ignore list.

 

I've already wasted too much time and energy on this fucknut. Ignore everything on this page and read the paragraph I wrote on the last one. There's helpful info there.

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