ph refts all day long. would rather paint with jue, tom, or blur than sintex single dipped ass even if he was floating me free cans of 10 dollar fancy pants paint. In fact. Anybody in the city came at me at the yard saying i ran out of black you got a can so i can finish my shit i wouldnt think twice. Unless it was sintex. He couldnt give me 20 for a can of paper label. Makes the whole tst look bad. It used to be a brand you could trust. I got more respect for Shades.