King Of Hell

Nice one Lox!. Here's mine. I spent a few hours drawing Joker rip-off's and feeling frustrated. I think the reason why I stoped even doing "abstract" stuff was because there was so little of it then in the graf world and what there was I was staring at all day long. It got stale and repetitive. So......int to trash they went. I thought since we were discussing going outside of graffiti for influences, and also the journey of abstracting a previously established form I used my particular graffiti lettering style, and for inspiration I've been all about 1940's and 50's animation lately and have collected a few books on the subject. I some Be-BBop Jazz on the turntable, and spent a few hours just soaking up a few particular artists work, and then reading about them and the people and things that influenced them. I realise this isn't all that "abstract" but I think it would be immature and irresponsible to try to achieve the finish product in an abstraction style the first go around. I thought that since it's an exercise, why not take those first few steps into something that could actually be. By basing it off of my version of a particular established regional style I had a solid foundation to abstract. By not looking at graff as the inspiration I had something else here as gas for my engine. I used Three different sized brushes for different effects like the thin, dotted lines in lots of the backgrounds of the UPA toons. For paint I used latex house paint, all of which were mistints with the exception of the black and red which are pantiers touch bucket latex. Also i used pieces of foam brushes as sponges to get a bit of that sponge brush background look on the early UPA cartoons. I hope you guys like it.I had fun.

On the rules and breaking of....... I always feel like the best examples of "breaking of the rules" comes from people who busted their asses to master the rules first. Other wise the breaking of said rules is meningless. Also the abstraction becomes no an abstraction at all because it isn't infact abstracting anything. Its just a weird drawing. The reason I will always like Jokers work is because his solid understanding of letters is undeniable. His simples are well balanced and fresh. If you look at his simples and then his abstract letters, alot of the time you can see the exact progression. Point to counter point. Simples to abstracts it's two sides of the same coin. When you dont have that base style to abstract what are you trying to acomplish? How are you abstracting? What are you abstracting? Are you ebing abstract for the sake of weirdness? Out of laziness to not put in the work to have the proper foundation? Are you using "abstract" to justify said laziness? Is there real substance behind the squiggle? Bottom line.....You need cake along with the icing. That said, I do agree with Joker about pushing further and loosening up and letting go to further things, but think about that sentence. Loosening up implies that you were tightly bound to something first. Pushing further implies that you are somewhere now. Letting go implies that you are holding to something. The contrast is the key. Without it it's all just a bunch of talking about how squiggles mean shit and that self expression is limitless. Super BJ, that thing is fresh.

Fist off this is essentially "the hipster graffiti" thread with a different name. Just because you call it Avant Garde doesn't mean it is. Second, you've got such a mixed bag in here that there isn't really any cohesive thing tying the photos together. It should have been renamed "Click and Drag: The thread about how I jack flicks from every thread to make my own pointless one." 99 percent of all of this came off of this site and some of these flicks have been overkill posted. If you wanted to do something like make a post of a few flicks and then have open discourse on why they stand out, and then make another psot of a few flicks and then dicussion time again...that would have been different. This is just a useless jumble, and due to some of the stuff in here, I can tell that you don't really have a clue as to what you are even lookiong at half the time. THREAD CLOSED.

I want to beat the living shit out of Scott Weiland. I hate that faggot more than I hate Chris Angel and dudes, that's alot.

Anyone else interested in something like should be emailing raven all day. He needs to see a demand for it.

Go Sox. Pay more attention next time.

"I burned myself, so there's no need for the cops to take credit for catching me," he said during the trial. "I'm a professional." sheeesh.

Those photos were all taken in 1940. The place still looks alot like that today however. Even moreso when I was growing up there.

I won't post the place I live in now because I kind of don't like it anyway. I won't post the place I usually call home because as a city itself I don't really want to live there anymore. I will post my birthplace. Old images though... Unless you know me I will bet that you won't be able to guess where this is. But you can see why I am the way I am.

Ok. as soon as Mr. Poesia, and Mr Heavylox post their submissions we can get the next assignment. Since Seeking has a suggestion for it I say we let him choose the assignment. Dont post it until all the submissions are in though so we can all have the same starting point.

if its on the internet, and not privately locked somehow, then it should be expected to travel.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqMyGM_S2DI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMebclpHbo4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55qUBKjyStY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31mzVMEDZSU "Oh, look it's a big horn" ll

Great work everyone!

I was scanning. Sorry guys. Left the camera at work and my rough sketches. So I drew this from memory and guess what? It blows but at least I participated.

I think you need to relax dude. It's a Horfe thread...Here's some Horfe pics. Nothing here out of the ordinary.

yup

I just chose it because I was feeling like, and we were all sounding like a bunch of antiques. Old dudes. Gotta shake off the cobwebs. Also I like Antiques Roadshow. Alot. ll

Dude, go easy on him. He's old. Soon he'll be just hobbling around aimlessly shaking his fist and yelling at passing cars about how the KGB owns Mitsubishi, "to HELL with the ace of spades!", the many uses of buffalo balls, golf tee's, and "those goddamn Japs!".

Yeah the bananna spiders around here like to chill in one spot for like a month.

yeah i have almost zero interest in the broken cd mosiac, BUT i do think you would make it look good somehow joker. By the way..soesnt have to be a bic pen. just needs to be a green pen. no pencils.