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Passenger trains.

Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by El Sodoma, Mar 30, 2003.

  1. El Sodoma

    El Sodoma New Jack

    Joined: Sep 26, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    Is this board all about freights or can anyone here paint clean trains in their city?
  2. if you carouse through the flicks i am sure you will find a few of what you are looking for.
  3. El Sodoma

    El Sodoma New Jack

    Joined: Sep 26, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    Nah, I'm not looking for flicks, I'm looking for discussion.
  4. BigJoe

    BigJoe Banned

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 2,803 Likes Received: 43
    yeah for some reason most US writers seem to have frgotten their roots..
    freights are cool for some reasons but its not half the fun of a passanger train.
    dosent pack the same kinda punch.
  5. porque

    porque Senior Member

    Joined: May 5, 2002 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 0
    ...there have been about fifty threads on this topic already...dig one up and read to your hearts content...
  6. alsar

    alsar New Jack

    Joined: Apr 1, 2003 Messages: 7 Likes Received: 0
    Come round my area, the trains round my hood are clean as. im like the only person into serious graff around here. 1 of u guys should come and do some murals 4 da coulncil:rolleyes:
  7. se_FOUR

    se_FOUR Senior Member

    Joined: Aug 27, 2002 Messages: 1,796 Likes Received: 1
    yanks=freights...Generalising again huh
  8. BigJoe

    BigJoe Banned

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 2,803 Likes Received: 43
    yeah straight up dickbreath, got a problem?
  9. Cracked Ass

    Cracked Ass Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 24, 2001 Messages: 7,898 Likes Received: 47
    Some folks are dumb as rocks, but I'll try one more time:
    1.Advertising on the Net that you've done transit is a great way to get yourself busted in the US. So if people are doing transit here, you won't be hearing much about it.
    2.Fifteen or twenty years ago, things changed, and cleans stopped running (hence the name "cleans"). The "roots" and "tradition" you refer to consisted of getting up on subway cars, and seeing your stuff run in front of all the people. With a strong buff on transit these days, you must choose one or the other. Transit heads are respecting the tradition of getting up on subway cars at any cost even if nobody sees it. Freight heads are respecting the tradition by getting up on a train system where people will see it run, even if it's not a subway.
    3.As I understand it Euro freights are kind of lame, a lot different from the North American setup, so you guys might as well stick to passenger action.
    4.Aside from the fact that a lot of graffiti heads are dicks when I finally meet them in person, I have respect for anyone hitting trains of any kind, because trains and graffiti go together. I hope we can agree on that at least.
  10. hobbesv2

    hobbesv2 Member

    Joined: Oct 21, 2000 Messages: 651 Likes Received: 0
    i know, right? man o man. some of us really suck at life

    and the meeting people thing seems like such an integral part of the frieght scene. so much socializing. i mean this is a _message board_ - we're all catty little girls. plus the flick trading and shit...geez. i'm not complaining, mind you. i like it like this. but in a way it's amazing we've been able to sustain this mess considering what fundamentally asshole human beings i've met writing graffiti.

    then again...i've also come to know some of my best friends.

    if there's any interest in this imma go start a topic. feel free to beat me to it
  11. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    in the jersey/ny area, the current 'charge' for ONE panel on a transit train is roughly $250,000.
    the way they look at it, they have to pull that car out of service to go to the buff, thus losing out on any potential revenue.

    obviously they're not going to get a fine like that to stick, but thats what they claim as 'damages'.

    this is why people dont talk about it, its not worth the risk. infact, there are even people over here who paint the piece, get their flic, then go over the whole thing so its unreadable, just to avoid the heat.
  12. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    just out of curiousity...have you been to america in the last 10 years???
  13. El Sodoma

    El Sodoma New Jack

    Joined: Sep 26, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    I heard it was hot but that's gnarly...
  14. BigJoe

    BigJoe Banned

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 2,803 Likes Received: 43
    yeah i had heard this from ppl in NY, thats pretty hardcore but surely you could just change your name too, i know ppl in brisbane( where the laws are quite harsh too) who have never done the same name on a citytrain twice...either way as long as you get the flick its all good..
    the other thing is i think if less ppl were focused on frieghts more subways and such would get done..graffiti is a really monkey see monkey do activity thats why tehre is such a focus on not letting graff run in city systems, but from the looks of most freights i have seen and scoped in the flesh they are about as easy as a wall and shouldnt have such an emphisus placed on them..
    In my opinion a healthy graffiti scene is where the goal is to do the most hardcore action first then subsequently stlye or anyother concern..
  15. vynlone

    vynlone Member

    Joined: Dec 4, 2001 Messages: 783 Likes Received: 0
    The British train and underground systems have a very heavy buff but as lots of writers hit large amounts of transit the buff can't keep up with the damage. Insides , outsides, leanouts, backjumps all get buffed very frequently and its pretty rare to see heavily bombed cars run. But some does run and when it does its better than any freight car. Saying that US freights can be equivalent to country wide fame so its not all bad.
    :D :D :D