the.crooked Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 That is what I am sayin. Thank you CA, thank you. The one fuckin realist voice I have heard on the subject. Fuck everyone's human idealism. props. partly cus i owed them to you anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 what ever happened to players that used alcohol to step there game up. i used to drink whiskey before my games and i always did awsome. you didnt worry so much, and you played like it was still fun. well david wells might pitch for some team next year... I am pretty sure he just does lots of coke and gets wasted before every game... Manny is constantly fucking stoned, its how he hits so good... but other then that I don't think many players get fucked up anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 And barnden donnelly is the only current red sox player listed and the sox just non-tendered him... so he doesn't even play for the sox anymore.... Eric Gagne is a Red Sox player. They might have traded him after the season was over, I'm not sure. But he sure played (like shit) in 2007. If you look at the report, you'll notice that the Sox are not the only team that does not currently have a player mentioned in it. There are, I believe, two people that Mitchell talked to, in the presence of federal agents. Their information is limited to the teams they worked with. Another thing, the Red Sox new management is very observant about steroid use. IF you read the parts about Gagne and Donnelly, you will see that it is noted that Theo Epstein, the GM, was very concerned about whether or not the two were still on the juice, and questioned the people who worked around them when they traded for both. Considering that both pitchers sucked, especially Gagne, while playing for the Red Sox, it can be assumed that they were forced to stop the steroid use once coming to Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i think you should let the use steroids they get paid millions of dollars to uphold a superhero status why not? baseball is so boring i want to see balls being hit out of the park all day What a load of bullshit. If baseball is boring, then don't watch it. There are millions of us who love the game, every aspect of it, and hate the fact that it has been tarnished by illegal steroid use. It is a game about natural abilities, just like every other sport, NOT about unnatural abilities. The beauty of sports is when a player has so much natural ability that they excel above others in sports. It is what makes those of us tear up when we hear Lou Gehrigs' retirement speech and what makes us remember Willie Mays' over-the-shoulders catch more than any other catch. It's what made names like Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, Joe DiMaggio, and Hank Aaron house-hold names. What you want is to cheapen the sport so that it amounts to a bunch of people shooting up drugs to hit home runs. That is what is truly boring, and pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Totally in agreement with F666. Team sports in general have been getting 'cheapened' or watered down. However you want to put it. Whether it be making stadiums smaller(Baseball) or making it more difficult to play defense(Football, Hockey and Basketball). A premium has been placed on entertainment, the show boating and raw athleticism rather than the fundamentals and perfection of a sport played. But after all it is just entertainment in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Who says it is about natural talent? Is that in the rules of the game? or just something YOU specifically assume of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Uhm. Because it is against the rules to use the substances they used to get an edge. There are plenty of major leaguers that will tell you people are like Clemens and the others mentioned above are a cancer to the sport. Eating it away. I would love to see a similar investigation into the NFL and NBA, see what happens then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 What you want is to cheapen the sport so that it amounts to a bunch of people shooting up drugs to hit home runs. That is what is truly boring, and pathetic. It cheapens a game when they pay millions of dollars to people just to hit a couple of balls and catch em every now and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fondles Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 who watches baseball, i mean really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Jefe Uno Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 ... I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Me too. And here is an article about the Hall of Fame: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/12/17/hall_of_fame/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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