LIVERWURST* Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush again called Democrats "irresponsible" on Saturday for pushing an expansion he opposes to a children's health insurance program. "Democrats in Congress have decided to pass a bill they know will be vetoed," Bush said of the measure that draws significant bipartisan support, repeating in his weekly radio address an accusation he made earlier in the week. "Members of Congress are risking health coverage for poor children purely to make a political point." In the Democrats' response, also broadcast Saturday, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell turned the tables on the president, saying that if Bush doesn't sign the bill, 15 states will have no funding left for the program by the end of the month. At issue is the Children's Health Insurance Program, a state-federal program that subsidizes health coverage for low-income people, mostly children, in families that earn too much to qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to afford private coverage. It expires September 30. A bipartisan group of lawmakers announced a proposal Friday that would add $35 billion over five years to the program, adding 4 million people to the 6.6 million already participating. It would be financed by raising the federal cigarette tax by 61 cents to $1 per pack. The idea is overwhelmingly supported by Congress' majority Democrats, who scheduled it for a vote Tuesday in the House. It has substantial Republican support as well. But Bush has promised a veto, saying the measure is too costly, unacceptably raises taxes, extends government-covered insurance to children in families who can afford private coverage, and seems like a move toward completely federalized health care. He has asked Congress to pass a simple extension of the current program while debate continues, saying it's children who will suffer if they do not. "Our goal should be to move children who have no health insurance to private coverage -- not to move children who already have private health insurance to government coverage," Bush said. The bill's backers have vigorously rejected Bush's claim it would steer public money to families that can readily afford health insurance, saying their goal is to cover more of the millions of uninsured children. The bill would provide financial incentives for states to cover their lowest-income children first, they said. Many governors want the flexibility to expand eligibility for the program. So the proposal would overturn recent guidelines from the administration making it difficult for states to steer CHIP funds to families with incomes exceeding 250 percent of the official poverty level. Rendell said thousands of children will lose health care coverage if Bush doesn't sign the bill. "The administration has tried to turn this into a partisan issue and has threatened to veto. The health of our children is far too important for partisan politics as usual," he said. "If the administration is serious about solving our health care crisis, it should be expanding, not cutting back, this program which has made private health insurance affordable for millions of children." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I am undecided on this issue. I read a whole bunch about inequities in the system itself. I think with some overhaul the program should be expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 These kind of things are band-aids on a gaping chest wound. If the inherent inefficiency of the private insurance companies is not taken out of the picture, our health system will just become more and more expensive and therefore more and more unusable by more and more people. With that said, given the current system, expanding opportunities for young people to get health care is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 war = $50 billion a year proposed expansion of the Children's Health Insurance Program = $7 Billion a year Bush's stupidity = priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPS! Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Ha best visa rip off ive ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVERWURST* Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html Bush vetoes expansion of kids' health insurance program WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday vetoed legislation expanding a children's health insurance program by $35 billion over five years. Kids pull wagons full of petitions this week asking President Bush not to veto insurance legislation. Bush exercised the veto at 10 a.m. ET before leaving the White House for a trip to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to discuss the federal budget and taxes. Democrats quickly took to the floor of the House of Representatives to condemn the veto of the bill that received bipartisan support. "The president has rediscovered his long lost inner fiscally conservative self," said Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Oregon, in a mocking tone. "After an orgy of borrowing, spending and misspending on many dubious things, his target? Ten million low-income kids." More: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 kids don't need more healthcare.... what they need is to be forced into military service starting at the age of 6.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 exactly, kids are too damn healthy these days anyway. And they don't kill enough people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When I was I kid, we all had Polio, TB and the Plague, but we still killed foreigners! We would just cough up infected blood on them and bash their brains in with our canes! Kids today are just soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 exactly, kids are too damn healthy these days anyway. And they don't kill enough people. actually I have a solution to many of americas current problem.... I say say stop sending sweatshop jobs overseas... No really, if we bring back sweatshops to this country it would be a good thing... It would revitalize our economy, and we could stop buying all those crappy chinese products... If kids worked in sweatshops and went to school, they wouldn't have any time to join gangs, commit crimes, and terrorize old people.... If your kids worked in a sweatshop think about what you could buy with that extra income.... or even better you could just buy a bunch of foriegn wives to pop out kids, and start your own sweatshop and make more money.... Children will be instilled with a good work ethic, and if we have forced military service starting at the age of 16 for 4 years it would be even better... then we could invade even more countries full of darkies and steal their natural resources.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 dear god that is insane. creative i must add, but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 dear god that is insane. creative i must add, but.. No it is not insane... why do you think china is beating us economically.... india is going to be beating us economically.... I think we should build more jails as well... We should then put all the homeless in jail... and make them work.... They are just using resources being homeless.... and isn't it more humane to give them a place to live, 3 meals a day, and job training them to let them starve on the streets.... I think this is a great solution for our homeless problem.... Oh the great part about this is that the homeless will actually generate revenue, and resources for us to use, while paying for the cost of employing, housing, feeding, and supervising them.... Oh added bonus, if they are in good health, we can harvest organs and no one is going to complain..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 we tryed that. didnt work. and even if conditions were to exceed those of the past, modern society would have a lot of complaints about it. im all for it, but still kinda crazy. i sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 actually I have a solution to many of americas current problem.... I say say stop sending sweatshop jobs overseas... No really, if we bring back sweatshops to this country it would be a good thing... It would revitalize our economy, and we could stop buying all those crappy chinese products... If kids worked in sweatshops and went to school, they wouldn't have any time to join gangs, commit crimes, and terrorize old people.... If your kids worked in a sweatshop think about what you could buy with that extra income.... or even better you could just buy a bunch of foriegn wives to pop out kids, and start your own sweatshop and make more money.... Children will be instilled with a good work ethic, and if we have forced military service starting at the age of 16 for 4 years it would be even better... then we could invade even more countries full of darkies and steal their natural resources.... BRILLIANT!!! (especially the foreign wives idea. I like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVERWURST* Posted October 6, 2007 Author Share Posted October 6, 2007 http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/06/radio.addresses.ap/index.html If you're following the story: WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush signaled a willingness Saturday to spend more than what he had recommended for a popular children's health program, but provided no specifics on how much higher he would go. The president on Wednesday vetoed legislation that would increase spending for the State Children's Health Insurance Program by $35 billion over five years. Bush has called for a $5 billion increase. Several Republicans in both chambers have sided with Democratic lawmakers on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 BRILLIANT!!! (especially the foreign wives idea. I like that) thanks... I knew you were down... free bomshot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 ha, ha..you know Bomshot? Thats my partner from waaay back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmitochondriax Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 war = $50 billion a year proposed expansion of the Children's Health Insurance Program = $7 Billion a year Bush's stupidity = priceless $50 billion a year? Try 10 billion a month. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/19/AR2006041902594.html It's definitely more now, this article is more than a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoeWhan Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Bush hates everyone. I though everyone knew that. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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