lord_casek Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 lets get back to the quantum computing, new tech, theoretical discussion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/the_worlds_smallest_one_person_helicopter.php the future is here? not quite. but i can imagine mamerro will be all about a personal helicopter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 28, 2006 Author Share Posted August 28, 2006 The design reminds me of the perpetual motion machine that Mr. Garrison created in that episode of South Park. I don't foresee any flying personal transports in the near future, not until they can build some sort of invisible barrier protecting the idiots from running into buildings. Watching "The Island" the other day, I found their vision of elevated trains somewhat feasible. Running only on wires and on multiple city levels. Safety-wise it's feasible, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 yeah, mang...bring back the elevated lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I guess I should throw my hat in the ring. I've used computers for a LONG time...long enough to remember using teletype terminals hooked into a mainframe back in the mid 80's- this was the Los Angeles Unified School District's idea of "tech" when I was 10. More importantly, we also had a lot of Apple IIes laying around, and some IIcs. The more advanced IIcs were mostly used to run a program called LOGO that would draw pretty pictures if you were able to program simple commands that told what was called a "turtle" (really a big-ass cursor) where to go and what to do...shit, I even remember some of the commands, like RT 45 would turn the turtle 45 degrees to the right. FD 100 (I think) would move it 100 pixels forward, and CIRCLER 180 would make the turtle draw a circle 180 pixels in diameter...anyway, I like to read, and I got a hold of the manual for LOGO...and found a command called DRIVE that basically made the turtle move forward, but allowed it to be steered using the arrow keys. Now, this was more fun than typing in lines of code, because it was more like a game, and the results would always be a little more abstract than what you could do with simply entering commands. Eventually, I told everyone about it, and got yelled at by the teacher for it...but, in my mind, I had done nothing wrong- I just simply shared a hidden function of LOGO with the class, and told her so. But by then, I had tired of LOGO, since it really only did one thing, albeit well...I wanted more. Enter BASIC. This was a good thing for two reasons- the IIes were less desirable than the IIcs to most people since they weren't as good for games (yes, we got to play games, but I forget which ones), and they were fairly slow...but, they were great if you were programming BASIC, so I got some books and learned how to make some simple games using GOTO, GOSUB, IF and THEN commands. Sometimes they worked, other times they didn't...but, to me, it was like music- some people could physically write it out on paper and know what it was going to sound like before it was ever played. I wanted to be able to program in the same way, and to some very minor degree, I did just that. I moved out of the district, though, and thus a very large gap develops in the story. Following this, I used an Amiga 512 for a couple years, then I used Macs for a long time...and recognized them in much the same way I would look at a toaster- great tools for getting work done, but not a hell of a lot of fun to mess around with on the code level. I'll add more to this later, I need to go eat something before I pass out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 haha. i remember having an ADAM computer back in 1985(?) we used the BASIC commands to draw houses, etc. sort of like LOGO. in 86/87 i remember my school getting some computers and we played "the oregon trail" for extra credit in geography (social studies is what they call it now). that fucking ADAM company was later bought by apple/macintosh. i think they became a software company for a short time. in 91/92 we got a 250 mhz gateway 2000. bbs's were my thing for the longest time. telnet, mudd games, all that. 93/94 were my "sneaking in to local university campus computer labs to use the interwebs" years. they were fast as fuck. telnet and PINE, bbs'es, the beginning of html coding. so few webpages in the beginning... anyhow, i'm not going to talk about my sordid years after that. lots of learning by breaking things, lots of awake time, caffeine, etc. etc. etc. p.s.: the ADAM had a tape drive to run programs...looked like cassettes. only for data. not many of the younger people realize there was somethign ebfore cd's and floppy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I learned how to crack back when you could get a shell account easily and telnet was the main way of breaking into a computer. Happy hacker taught me all I knew. I grew out of it when the hormones kicked in and talking to girls seemed more interesting then pinging ip's. Since then I have become rather behind the times and couldnt crack a website if I tried. It was interesting and makes for a good conversation starter when I meet old timers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 dude! telnet is still the way to go for backdooring a site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 really? Interesting...I still have my old tutorials around somewhere....heh heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 heres my source: http://www.happyhacker.org/gtmhh/index.shtml Looks like she's been busy since I stopped hacking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 oh and I did a bit of phreaking. I still have the crunch tone on my comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I need a red box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 thats easy. get a dictaphone or any other recording device and record the sounds made in the receiver of the two quarters or download and record those sounds. now you have a redbox. make sure if you're recording that the place is real quiet bc if there is too much other noise it wont work. Im not sure if you can make long distance calls with it anymore I heard phone companies where fazing long distance coin calling out to combat phreakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 you can download those coin tones. not so sure they work anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 blah my bad i was thinking of the one that acts like those phones the guys from the cable company/phone company have. beige box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 blah my bad i was thinking of the one that acts like those phones the guys from the cable company/phone company have. beige box? http://www.nettwerked.net/ http://unixclan.no-ip.org/phreaksite/ yes, it's a beige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 how to hack a diebold voting machine http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/how-to-hack-a-diebold-vot_b_26301.html?p=8#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The more advanced IIcs were mostly used to run a program called LOGO Hahahahahahaha! I knew how to animate in logo. I was one of the first people to have aol, back when it was cool, and my first computer was a 386 NEC. DOS was alright but i was tecnologically advanced because I had win 3.0. I learned how to type on some crap apple with floppies, the floppy kind. The program was mavis becon teaches typing, the first edition. MmmmHmmm....Im not that old but I sure remember the early 90's and the crazy computer shows.:p edit: and my favorite game was Oregon Trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 its all about gorillas. explosive bannanas like whoa. i remember logo. i used to have an 80/88 that i ran solely text based games on. I remember having one called wildcatter, about oil productiong, and submarine. both were based on some simple alphanumeric grid that when called upon a certain region it gave different options about it. it was sweet. if nothing else it got me way comfortable with different GUI's and typing. after the 80/88 i had a 286 and the progressed throughout the years. my dad was IT for as long as I can remember, he always kept me on the up and up. I did less hacking, tried phreaking, but stuck mostly with just working on machines with my dad. I remember when I was twelve, I went on a service call with him. I ended up doing like three hours of work, solved their network issues and set up some programs across the LAN. My dad charged them full price for the hours I worked. It was by far the best working experience I have ever had. Oregon Trail was the shit. Anybody remember the amazon river game? I think it was made by the same people. And did anyone else feel really uncomfortable from the switch from 3.1 to 95 when it happened? I hated the 95 GUI and the lack of the DOS base. I had so many games that were just effed. Aces of the pacific, commander keen, caves, on and on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 i remember when 3.1 and 95 switched over. that was teh sucx0r. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 fuckin right it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 I was running 95 until early 2003, how sad is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 you didn't know what the juarez was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 I did, but I had a 6 gig harddrive and for a while there I only had a 56k. Plus, dropped out of the gaming scene that provided me with connections. Plus, 64 megs of RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Algorithms to Calculate Unusual Behavior http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=24476 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 This is a problem. AI is the next big wave of tech and there are going to be huge social and ethical implications going on. These algorithms fall into this catogory, as it is trying to predict human intelligence by studying human intelligence. Soon, dots will be connected and pieces will fall into place. I've been thinking that the biggest challenge for the hacking community right now would be to get there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i think the first be challenge is to say 'no' to the real i.d. that is what is going to keep 'them' from doing this sort of stuff to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 http://www.google.com/search?hs=IOu&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=cryptonym.com%2Fhottopics%2Fmsft-nsa%2FReplaceNsaKey.zip&btnG=Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Algorithms to Calculate Unusual Behavior http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=24476 this stuff is very spooky, part of me sees this as a potential for stopping un-necessary stuff from happening and preventing innocent people from harm, but another part of me knows that the people who's tenticles will be all over this technology do not always have the best interest of the people in mind. (to put it lightly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 this stuff is very spooky, part of me sees this as a potential for stopping un-necessary stuff from happening and preventing innocent people from harm, but another part of me knows that the people who's tenticles will be all over this technology do not always have the best interest of the people in mind. (to put it lightly). that is putting it very lightly dawood. have you heard about the passive mri's going into airports? it is a type of mind reading, so to speak. by analyzing the patterns in the brain, where neurons are firing at, they can tell if you're lying, hiding something, nervous, etc. it's all very scary stuff. way more scary than 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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