Guest sneak Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Buff testing... the other night i filled up a bog-standard 20mm with some nero only. i went out, got a few reaches... i was in the same area the next day, and one of my tags on a marble wall was attempting to be gotten rid of by some poor worker. i decided to stay and see what would happen, so i sat down and had a cigarette. that one fag turned into a spliff and then another fag. (ie i was there for a long time) and the worker was scrubbing away using a variety of differnet things to clean it. to no avail, when he eventually thought "fuck it" i had a closer look. you couldnt even tell someone had even tried to buff it. thats a nice ink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PALS101 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Not to be a bother. I know its probably somewhere in here but i couldnt find it. All i want to know is how to thicken ink without boiling it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ader47 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 sneak what colour nero was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 it was black... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODS-1 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I propose this thread be locked and edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroya Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 shut the fuck up, you worthless piece of shit. you don't need to reiterate yourself every few posts. if you firmly stand by your opinion, start by editing your own shit out. to make this post less of a waste, nero doesn't look too hot on plain metal. looks like somebody already tried buffing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 RUBBISH, yo brother... you seem to have a good understanding of additives. i think gentian violet (powder) and crystal violet are the exact same thing,... -C__H__CIN __25_30___3 basically the are synonyms for the same molecular structure, right? i stumbled across a good sized bottle of the gentian powder and its green. it turns color after its mixed with an alcohol solvent though(ink for example). is that the same stuff you've been getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 El Producto, email me at jpor0824@yahoo.com.. if its a product you cant find anywhere else i can probabely tell you where to get it.. just tell me what you are lookin for.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted June 7, 2004 Author Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by rinse RUBBISH, yo brother... you seem to have a good understanding of additives. i think gentian violet (powder) and crystal violet are the exact same thing,... -C__H__CIN __25_30___3 basically the are synonyms for the same molecular structure, right? i stumbled across a good sized bottle of the gentian powder and its green. it turns color after its mixed with an alcohol solvent though(ink for example). is that the same stuff you've been getting? Apparently "gentian violet" is the name of the whole family of dues which includes crystal violet, methyl violet, basic violet (Garvey's pigment) etc. They're all pretty much the same from what I can tell. I remember reading on a chemical site a long time ago why there's a greenness to it. If you get the liquid stuff, it definitely has that green glow. Originally posted by zil urbandesignz never responds to emails.. they got a good selection but ive had some bad experiences with them.. from now on i use four the hardway, bombing science, and art primo... stick to them.. I've emailed them twice and gotten fast replies both times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap I've emailed them twice and gotten fast replies both times. hmm... well then i just had bad luck.. they didnt respond to my emails and it took them 7 days to tell me that they didnt have the items that i ordered in stock.. i ordered something from bombing science at 4 AM monday morning and they shipped it 5 hours later... i had a tracking number in another 30 minutes... so for me i stick the ones that i know are good, four the hardway, art primo, and bombing science.. i suggust you do the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap I've emailed them twice and gotten fast replies both times. Hey rubbish..hit me on up aim. zil, i sent you an e-mail..thanks for the help:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap ... They're all pretty much the same from what I can tell. I remember reading on a chemical site a long time ago why there's a greenness to it. If you get the liquid stuff, it definitely has that green glow. yea i've notice the ashy sheen to the liquid but this powder is straight green. i quess i was wondering if that is typical but whatever... it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 why dont u take omens advice and get garvey.. its better than anything u can cook up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 ^^^i have plenty of garvey. infact i have baby-biggie filled with violet garvey right now. i got a handful of marks and mops filled with various inks as well as a box full of different inks, additives, etc. its a part my well rounded diet...why, whatchu' got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by rinse ^^^i have plenty of garvey. infact i have baby-biggie filled with violet garvey right now. i got a handful of marks and mops filled with various inks as well as a box full of different inks, additives, etc. its a part my well rounded diet...why, whatchu' got? i dont mess with inks.. its a pain in the ass and you arent gunna get better than the chemists.. i use nero, garvey, and marsh.. all of them are decent but garvey kicks ass.. i dont mess with it and they still cant buff it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 yea, i wouldnt suggest adding to garvey either, it is near perfect (on metal surfaces). havent used much nero but from what i understand it is great on plastics. and marsh, well thats just asking to be doctored up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted June 9, 2004 Author Share Posted June 9, 2004 Okay, you guys like to keep your Garvey straight and I'm going to sum up exactly why I think it's best mixed. Garvey, while it kills metal, is surprisingly not to great on certain other surfaces. It will actually weather away on something like... Painted wood (bus stops here). When I hit up shit, I don't have time to have a marker with ink for each surface I hit, I like to have an ink that will last on metal, wood, cement, plastic etc. Straight Garvey will stain metal, but not wood or plastic. Now, the ink I add is Marsh; it doesn't necessarrily stain the aforementioned surfaces that Garvey doesn't, but it does have it's staying power. On a side note, I don't really like the stock purple Garvey comes in. When I mix it with black Marsh I get a much nicer, darker, more opaque purple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ader47 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 i had my pen juiced up with some violet garvey and inferno and apparently the stains it left were alot harsher than that of straight garvey on plastic. and it still stained metal nicely. maybe not AS much as straight, but it'll do for me anyday. anyway, im pretty sure i know the answer.. but, i picked up various additives the other day (methylene blue, violet) and was wondering if anyone had any insight on adding them to garvey and/or inferno? ie, better stain etc. i ask because i've only read adding them with corio.. cheers & rubbish i agree, but that electric violet garvey has, wow..but yeh, couldnt agree more - it does need another ink for other surfaces and like you said, fuck carrying around a pen for every surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 does anyone know any sites where i can get some corio??..if you could tell me on here or aim or e-mail or something i would appreciate it AIM: Hoov1er e-mail: whoovie@hotmail.com Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 does the feibings powdery shit work well too..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silkk Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 anyone else find that marsh blue suks and dosent cover good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap Okay, you guys like to keep your Garvey straight and I'm going to sum up exactly why I think it's best mixed. Garvey, while it kills metal, is surprisingly not to great on certain other surfaces. It will actually weather away on something like... Painted wood (bus stops here). When I hit up shit, I don't have time to have a marker with ink for each surface I hit, I like to have an ink that will last on metal, wood, cement, plastic etc. Straight Garvey will stain metal, but not wood or plastic. Now, the ink I add is Marsh; it doesn't necessarrily stain the aforementioned surfaces that Garvey doesn't, but it does have it's staying power. what then, would be the benefit of mixing garvey and marsh other than cosmetic? Originally posted by rubbish heap On a side note, I don't really like the stock purple Garvey comes in. When I mix it with black Marsh I get a much nicer, darker, more opaque purple. ah man... garvey violet is so vivid! on light surfaces you can spot it all the way down the block! i guess everyones got there own flava'. Originally posted by ader47 ...that electric violet garvey has, wow... werd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 I think Marsh, while it doesn't stain hard on non-metal surfaces, does have better staying power against the weather. I have had straight Garv fade on non metals, by the way. I never got my hands on Nero. I think that mixed with Garvey could be very promising... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 ^i dont know if that email ever got to you rubbish, but i wanted to see if you were on fro trading some nero for some garvey.... :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap I never got my hands on Nero. I think that mixed with Garvey could be very promising... Nero is good..but i first started using it aaages ago and on trains it stained really well..but now if you use straight nero it doesnt stain that well, i think they got better cleaner stuff or something sneaky, i hear you on the garvey.. i wanna get me some black garvey:yum: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ader47 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 -flaunts garvey- and yeah - nero and garvey is nice, veeery nice. no one have any info on the additives & garvey in my previous post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 okay, my current stock is garvey, nero and violet flowpen (out of marsh).. some of you swear by adding things to garvey, but i have always liked it alone.. however i have enough garvey now, that i can afford to screw some up.. using any of these, which ones would you mix to make something that stains plastic better than garvey does.. I have never used flowpen ink before, but i did get a free bottle not long ago, so i could try to use that some how.. any advice would be appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 I've gone from frequent post whore to occassional visitor. Try throwing some Nero in with Garvey. Rub also reccomended that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeStSiDe g Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 ey wassup if its been answered my bad but anybody fucked with lincoln leather dye before could u tell me if it stains very hard and leaves a ghost after its buffed...my boy who hasnt been writing that long claims it does and so i bought some and normally id juss see if my shits running but i dont wanna change the shit i use now if it turns out that lincold gets buffed easy....thanks alot for anybody who helps me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightTheBuff Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 i just use leather dye to alter the colors of my inks...i dont really use it to make my shit stain harder. dont use it by itself, mix it with some shit all you really gotta do is crush, almost everything will get buffed sooner or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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