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golden west boxes re-stamped

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Guest killtoy

seen about a dozen stamped SP and a couple stamped something else i forgot. but nothing else on the trains were buffed or stamped. only the black boxes were maintained. good news in my book. anybody else catch any stamped with new markings? :) :confused: :idea:

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1. Golden Wests -

 

As was stated earlier (sort of), Golden West Service was a project by Greenbrier and SP to rebuild old SP cars (including its new aquisitions, DRGW and SSW) and bring them up to pace with service demands, as well as polish its image a little with shippers and the public. Greenbrier would rebuild the cars and lease them back to SP to cover the expenses.

 

As this was being put together (93) the ICC (now the surface transportation board) was in the process of "deprescription" of car hire rates. Car Hire rates are the established rates that a shipper pays to the owner of the car. "Deprescription" involved changing the way those rates were established, from the previous set formula, to a more market oriented price system that fluctuated. Shortline railroads were given a 10 year "grace period" from these changes, during which they would still use the old formula for car hire rates.

 

In order to "protect" these new cars from the deprescription, SP entered into an agreement with a few shortlines (GVSR, VCY, CRLE) where they would pay them a small amount of money on a regular basis to use the shortline's reporting marks to register these cars. This is where the whole " legal shell game" thing comes into play. Lots of paper work and leasing agreements so SP can save a bunch of cash.

 

Now jump to the present day. ten years from 93 brings us to 03, and as the exemption comes to a close, Union Pacific (who bought SP years ago) has decided that it's going to renumber the cars back to their original numbers so it can stop paying the shortlines for the use of their reporting marks. Its not saving money by being exempt anymore, so why should it? I've seen some VCY's showing up here with fresh stamp cubes and SP reporting marks lately. They dont even seem to be buffing anything else (ie Load Limits), just the minimum required to keep them on the road and legal.

 

So in summary....nothing is changing but the numbers. some pannels may eat it if they decide to re-stamp loads cause they were completely covered...but that happens anyways. Hope that clears everything up....

 

 

 

 

 

 

thats from the other post I bumped up.

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one of my favorite freights...i love seeing them coming down the line, you just know there all gonna be hit with nice old west coast stuff..:king:

 

80% of my site is golden west service cars

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in the last few weeks I've been seeing about 1/3 of golden wests restamped SP/SSW. man, those UP boxcar lines have some character these days...

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Guest krowteN
Originally posted by fr8burner

one of my favorite freights...i love seeing them coming down the line, you just know there all gonna be hit with nice old west coast stuff..:king:

 

80% of my site is golden west service cars

 

yeah i know the feeling. my ears stand on end when i see them shits coming too. as of late though they have been pretty clean or just covered with a bunch of trash, which i like to see trash at the bench. i mean bad graffiti is better than no graffiti. i just always hope for an old porn or some old awr stuff.

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i agree

 

Originally posted by fr8burner

one of my favorite freights...i love seeing them coming down the line, you just know there all gonna be hit with nice old west coast stuff..:king:

 

80% of my site is golden west service cars

 

yo i checked your site, major error under bus. besides that cool. peace!:D :D

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Guest krowteN
Originally posted by podrido

hey i know you..... and i know you too

 

 

long live the panthars

 

long live the 'black pantars' god damnit!

and the next time you fuck that up, im gonna sent bobby seal and angela davis over there to shoot your white ass!

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Guest killtoy

hey brother!

 

he's not white... he's a goddamned mexican. :mexican:

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As I mentioned in the other thread about this, the reporting mark change is basically a paper transaction. These cars should continue to run the same routes.

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Guest krowteN
Originally posted by killtoy

he's not white... he's a goddamned mexican. :mexican:

 

white cracker, mexican spic or black nigger, fuck em all!

i got some cats that will git mideval on his rainbow ass!

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