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this is an excellent development. let them fester in their own shit holes.

*sorry homie, no one likes to have to scroll.

OR A FEW BARRELS OF OIL FOR X-MAS? PLEASE?

so this has been going around onto every forum in the internet. originally an article in the winter 2004 of 2600 magazine

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^ ok good read thank you,. :) "Do you see just how absurd that is? do you see just how torn and ununifying this seems?" Yes.

While i respect that you believe turkey should not join. Unfortunately it appears for your case that the EU has already from 1997 considered Turkey into possible entry. So perhaps you and people who have similiar viewpoints should lobby more effectively to prevent Turkey from entering if you believe your position to be a good one to take. Perhaps maybe the cultural differences you speak of would be reformed once Turkey enters Europe and democracy and progressive reforms could occur? Or maybe not. Who knows. But either way it appears that Turkey will eventually enter if it does what the EU wants.

there are plenty of facts to invalidate your argument. from official government sources of your own european union. you may find them here: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/turkey/ it appears the EU does not officially care about any "cultural" differences. At least from the writing on the webpages. "The Luxembourg European Council of December 1997 "confirmed Turkey's eligibility for accession to the European Union. Turkey will be judged on the basis of the same criteria as the other applicant States. While the political and economic conditions allowing accession negotiations to be envisaged are not satisfied, the European Council considers that it is nevertheless important for a strategy to be drawn up to prepare Turkey for accession by bringing it closer to the European Union in every field"." http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/turk...n_councils_.pdf "3. The Helsinki European Council of December 1999 stated that "Turkey, like other candidates, will benefit from a pre-accession strategy to stimulate and support its reforms. This will include enhanced political dialogue, with emphasis on progressing towards fulfilling the political criteria for accession with particular reference to human rights, as well as the issues referred to in paragraphs 4 and 9(a). Turkey will also have the opportunity to participate in Community programmes and agencies and in meetings between candidate States and the Union in the context of the accession process." "10. The Copenhagen European Council of 12 and 13 December 2002, recalls its decision in 1999 in Helsinki that Turkey is a candidate state destined to join the Union on the basis of the same criteria as applied to the other candidate states. It strongly welcomes the important steps taken by Turkey towards meeting the Copenhagen criteria, in particular through the recent legislative packages and the subsequent implementation measures which cover a large number of key priorities specified in the Accession Partnership. The Union acknowledges the determination of the new Turkish government to take further steps on the path of reform and urges in particular the government to address swiftly all remaining shortcomings in the field of the political criteria, not only with regard to legislation but also in particular with regard to implementation. The Union recalls that, according to the political criteria decided in Copenhagen in 1993, membership requires that a candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities. The Union encourages Turkey to pursue energetically its reform process. If the European Council in December 2004, on the basis of a report and a recommendation from the Commission, decides that Turkey fulfils the Copenhagen political criteria, the European Union will open accession negotiations with Turkey without delay. In order to assist Turkey towards EU membership, the accession strategy for Turkey shall be strengthened. The Commission is invited to submit a proposal for a revised Accession Partnership and to intensify the process of legislative scrutiny. In parallel, the EC-Turkey Customs Union should be extended and deepened. The Union will significantly increase its pre-accession financial assistance for Turkey. This assistance will from 2004 be financed under the budget heading "pre-accession expenditure". 11. The Thessaloniki European Council of 19 and 20 June 2003, welcomes the commitment of the Turkish government to carry forward the reform process, in particular the remaining legislative work by the end of 2003, and supports its on-going efforts to fulfil the Copenhagen political criteria for opening accession negotiations with the Union. Taking into account progress achieved, significant further efforts to this end are still required. With a view to helping Turkey achieve this objective, the Council adopted recently a revised Accession Partnership, which sets out the priorities that Turkey should pursue, supported by substantially increased pre-accession financial assistance. In accordance with the Helsinki conclusions fulfilment of these priorities will assist Turkey towards EU membership. The Accession Partnership constitutes the cornerstone of EU-Turkey relations, in particular in view of the decision to be taken by the European Council of December 2004." "12. The Brussels European Council of 12 December 2003, welcomes the considerable and determined efforts by the Turkish government to accelerate the pace of reforms, many of which are significant in political and legal terms. The legislative packages so far adopted, the first important steps taken to ensure effective implementation, as well as the progress in addressing many priorities under the Copenhagen political criteria and in the revised Accession Partnership have brought Turkey closer to the Union. Turkey has also made significant progress in meeting the Copenhagen economic criteria. However, further sustained efforts are needed, in particular as regards strengthening the independence and functioning of the judiciary the overall framework for the exercise of fundamental freedoms (association, expression and religion) the further alignment of civil-military relations with European practice, the situation in the Southeast of the country and cultural rights. Turkey also has to overcome macro-economic imbalances and structural shortcomings. The European Council underlines the importance of Turkey’s expression of political will to settle the Cyprus problem. In this respect a settlement of the Cyprus problem, based on the principles set out in section IV. below, would greatly facilitate Turkey’s membership aspirations. The European Council encourages Turkey to build on the substantial progress achieved so far in its preparations for launching accession negotiations and underlines its commitment to working towards full implementation of the pre-accession strategy with Turkey, including the revised Accession Partnership, in view of the decision to be taken by the European Council in December 2004 on the basis of the report and recommendations of the Commission." http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/turk...n_councils_.pdf

Segregating people based on culture will not lead you to economic power. TURKEY> GDP: purchasing power parity - $458.2 billion (2004 est.) GDP - real growth rate: 5.8% (2004 est.) GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $6,700 (2004 est.) GDP - composition by sector: agriculture: 11.7% industry: 29.8% services: 58.5% (2003 est.) Investment (gross fixed): 15.5% of GDP (2004 est.) Population below poverty line: 18% (2001) Agriculture - products: tobacco, cotton, grain, olives, sugar beets, pulse, citrus; livestock Industries: textiles, food processing, autos, mining (coal, chromite, copper, boron), steel, petroleum, construction, lumber, paper Industrial production growth rate: 8.5% (2004 est.) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html "The European Union (EU) is a family of democratic European countries, committed to working together for peace and prosperity." Is Turkey a Democracy? I totally reject your culture argument. Adding another culture to the EU will strengthen your economic block. "Unity in diversity: Europe is a continent with many different traditions and languages, but also with shared values. The EU defends these values. It fosters co-operation among the peoples of Europe, promoting unity while preserving diversity and ensuring that decisions are taken as close as possible to the citizens. In the increasingly interdependent world of the 21st century, it will be even more necessary for every European citizen to co-operate with people from other countries in a spirit of curiosity, tolerance and solidarity." http://europa.eu.int/abc/index_en.htm "The criteria for membership were fixed by the European Council in Copenhagen: democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for minorities; a functioning market economy, and the capacity to cope with competitive pressures; the ability to take on the obligations of membership (in other words, to apply effectively the EU’s rules and policies). " http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/argu...ex.htm#Benefits Does Turkey have those criteria? " recent study of the Commission estimates that enlargement could increase the growth of GDP of the acceding countries by between 1.3 and 2.1 percentage points annually, and for the existing members it could increase the level of GDP by 0.7 percentage point on a cumulative basis. "The Economic Impact of Enlargement", a study by the Directorate General for Economic and Financial Affairs, May 2001 " http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/argu...ex.htm#Benefits "Non-enlargement, or a delay in enlargement, would have costs both for the Union and for the applicant countries: Delay in enlarging the single market, and lower economic growth in the applicant countries, would deprive member states of economic benefits. For the applicant countries failure to join the Union would weaken the incentive for economic reform, discourage foreign investment and reduce economic growth. It could thus create political instability in Europe, and even undermine the process of democratisation, with potential repercussions for the Union. Without enlargement, the Union would be less able to combat the problems of organised crime, illegal immigration and terrorism. Disillusion with the Union in the applicant countries would feed Euroscepticism in the member states. "

How does the USA control OPEC? Can you elaborate? Is it because we own Iraq which can subvert OPEC? Or do we excercise some sort of direct control over OPEC ? Here's a map of europe which may help us. Turkey is directly parallel to Spain from the West to East. So to me it should be in the EU. When it comes down to it i think that to the EU the only thing that matters is adding another 69,000,000 (http://www.allaboutturkey.com/info.htm) new consumers to the EU. Which would definately enhance EU economic power as well as give it nice access border access to Asia. Furthmore if Russia is to be considered part of Europe then, Turkey geographically speaking would have to be considered part of Europe as well. Turkey is extremely close to Greece which is definately part of Europe. So it is silly to say Turkey could not be part of europe. It just so happens to be between Asia and Europe. So I wonder if turkey could belong to an Asian economic union as well as a European one? Turkey: Location: 39 00 N, 35 00 E - Southwestern Asia (that part west of the Bosphorus is sometimes included with Europe and called as Thrace), bordering the Black Sea, between Bulgaria and Georgia, and bordering the Aegean Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, between Greece and Syria. (http://www.allaboutturkey.com/info.htm)

^ nobody. What if everyone in china wants a car? one billion new cars using gasoline? so maybe like you said china will be the lead developer of new energy technology. I dont understand how this thread turned from discussion about Turkey in the EU to talk about energy. weird!!

double post

there was a show on PBS about some country using their geothermal energy sources to go full fossil fuel free by a certain year. and some other country is doing that as well i believe. the PBS show demonstrated people filling up with hydrogen just like regular gasoline. it even showed solid bricks of hydrogen you can insert into a box in your caR AND when its used up you buy a new solid brick of energy. the tech is definately there..its either being suppressed or there isnt a mass market for it yet because fossil fuels are still relatively cheap (and extremely profitable ) for developed countries. theorically speaking non developed countries would be the first to adopt non petrol based energy souces because as the price of barrel increases more and more (which it will based on most projections of peak oil and even without factoring in peak oil, demand will increase no matter what) then they would be able to less aford that energy which would increase the cost feasbility of having a industrial retooling to another form of energy utilization. the only problem is who is going to develop that tech if the non developed countries do not have research money while developed countries do have research money but can still afford petrol.

YOU ARE CORRECT! PETRO-DOLLAR-RECYLCING-CIRCLE. THE BIGGEST LARGEST OPEN SECRET IN MACROECONOMICS. AND IN COLLEGE THEY TELL US THE DOLLAR IS NOT BACK BY ANYTHING ., TAKEN OFF THE BRETTON WOODS CONFERENCE..GOOD THING THE INTERNET EXISTS OR ELSE I MIGHT EXIST IN PROPAGANDA-MATRIX-IGNORANCE AS WELL. and perpetual motion is impossible. I believe Germany leads the field in Hydrogen development?