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metallix, October 20, 2001 in Brick Slayers
The redbirds have been with us for a long time. The first delivery of R-26's and R-28's came in the late 1950's. Their original color was olive green. They were painted red when they went for general overhaul in the late 1980's. The then TA President, David Gunn, called them silver foxes because of the color of their roofs. The following is a list of the cars that we now refer to as redbirds.
R-26 7750-7859 built by AFC. Original color: Olive Green.
R-28 7860-7959 built by AFC. Original color: Olive Green.
R-29 8570 8805 built by St. Louis Car Co. Original color: Tuscan Red.
R-33 8806-9305 built by St. Louis Car Co. Original color: Tuscan Red.
R-33s 9307-9345 built by St. Louis Car Co. Original color: Blue.
R-36 9346-9769 built by St. Louis Car Co. Original color: Blue.
and some older pictures..
great post. put up more if you have them.
Watery grave for retired subway cars
By FRANK ELTMAN-- The Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) -- Next stop ... Delaware!
After more than four decades of service, a tired fleet of New York City subway cars known as the Redbirds is being retired and shipped to Delaware -- where they'll go right into the ocean.
The first 20 cars were loaded onto a barge on their way south to build an artificial reef in the Atlantic Ocean. In all, 400 cars are expected to be sent.
"They served New York well," said Al O'Leary, a spokesman for the city's transit system. "Now, in their second life, they're going to be used to help rebuild a marine ecosystem on an otherwise barren ocean surface."
Starting Tuesday, the subway cars will be sunk at a 1.3-square-nautical-mile reef site with a depth of 80 to 90 feet. The site is about 15 miles south of Cape May, N.J.
Although other large items such as barges, military tanks, ships and parts of bridges have been used to build reefs, this is believed to be a first for such a large number of subway cars.
The project was approved by the National Marine Fisheries Service and the Army Corps of Engineers. Before the cars are sunk, they will be cleaned according to protocols established by the U.S. Coast Guard and approved by the Environmental Protection Agency.
"All floatable materials will be removed. We'll clean off all the grease and oil. There will be no doors, no windows, no rubber," O'Leary said. "We want nothing washing up on any shores."
Graffiti, once the bane of the city subway system, was removed from most trains about a decade ago.
The Redbirds have carried passengers to and from some of the city's most notable events, dating back to the 1964 World's Fair, and continuing through last year's Subway Series between the Yankees and Mets.
Not everyone is mourning their demise.
"That's where they belong -- down in Davy Jones' locker," said Curtis Sliwa, founder of the Guardian Angels, the self-appointed protectors of the city subways.
"They weren't clean, the air conditioning didn't work and you'd sit there and swelter," Sliwa recalled. "And then you'd have marauding gangs of thugs coming through."
The Redbirds -- painted a dark red during a renovation years ago -- are being replaced by a new generation of high-tech cars that are brightly lit, with electronic message boards and automated public address announcements.
O'Leary said it will cost the transit system $1.6 million to send the retired cars to Delaware, a savings of $10 million to $13 million if the cars were disposed of in a landfill.
The artificial reefs will help increase biodiversity, providing a protective habitat for reef fish and invertebrates, said Jeff Tinsman, reef project manager for Delaware's Division of Fish and Wildlife. They will also expand recreational fishing and diving opportunities, he said.
Despite assurances from the EPA, some environmentalists have reservations about the plan. Ocean City, Md., officials initially agreed to take some New York subway cars, then backed out over environmental concerns. New Jersey has postponed a decision about using subway cars to bolster reefs.
"One of our concerns was and still is about the stability and longevity of the subway cars," said Kristen Milligan, a staff scientist with New Jersey-based Clean Ocean Action. "We're also concerned about the effects of contaminants and pollutants."
EPA officials said asbestos would not be present in high enough concentrations to harm aquatic life or people.
One of five Philadelphia subway cars that were submerged off the coast of New Jersey to form "artificial reefs" for fish.
Photograph by Herb Segars One of five Philadelphia subway cars that were submerged off the coast of New Jersey to form "artificial reefs" for fish.
heres an excellent article from scientific american :
GHOST YARD GHOST YARD
thats some good ish right there kid..
Man something about this pic creeps me the fuck, it makes me scared looking at it, i have no idea why.
suburbian bum, i stared at that picture before, i couldnt figure it out either. theres something to it, hmmmMm
im happy im feeling glad i got sunshine.. in a bag. get it right sucka what you know bout del the funy homosapien? oh yeah nice flicks too
bump .. . shit threads go down so fast..wtf .
bump for the kick ass flicks.
that site is cool where them flicks came from I emailed the fools on numerous occasions tryin to buy one of those scrap cars to make a diner out of it . They get sold to the Japanese for scrap . I also went down to that Brooklyn scrap yard years ago and hit them shits before they got shipped out on the boat . I wonder if the retired 123's & 456' wil show up in them scrap yards to get last licks ?
id love to get those flix..let me know the scrap yard locations ? firstname.lastname@example.org
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theres lots of stuff here. pics of the redbirds getting dumped off barges, picts of them getting scraped. also, pics of damage dont to stations near the wtc. crazy shit
man its just like new jerz to think that dumpin trains off the coast is a GOOD idea, stupid armpit of america haters...
"And then you'd have marauding gangs of thugs coming through."
im sure that was becasue they were redbirds, and the new cars will take care of that problem (relly sarcastic voice):rolleyes:
ooops i did it again
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