Pistol Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by mapo returns im actually not concerned at all. I'd suggest otherwise, as you're the one insistent on continuing the discussion. And you asked for someone who wasn't a career politician. I gave you one, and, like I suggested, you still weren't happy. If you wanted to specify "political outsider," you should have done so previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob deer Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I dunno about you, but I'm scared of actor politicans. they're fucking actors for christ sakes. I'll vote for george carlin though. now that would be some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapo returns Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by Poop Man Bob I'd suggest otherwise, as you're the one insistent on continuing the discussion. And you asked for someone who wasn't a career politician. I gave you one, and, like I suggested, you still weren't happy. If you wanted to specify "political outsider," you should have done so previously. Youre the one who initially made the point of saying that some candidates are legit and some arent. not me. I asked what makes one candidate legit and others not? How do you make the distinction? You have yet to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by mapo returns I asked what makes one candidate legit and others not? How do you make the distinction? You have yet to answer. Perhaps you should read my posts. I addressed that previously: "I'm sure there are a number of candidates out there who received little to no press who have good policy ideas and are well-qualified for the position, thus making them 'legitimate' in my eyes - regardless of whether or not they are career politicians. " Therefore: 1) Good policy ideas 2) Well-qualified for the position I'm sure this won't satisfy you, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapo returns Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by Poop Man Bob Perhaps you should read my posts. I addressed that previously: "I'm sure there are a number of candidates out there who received little to no press who have good policy ideas and are well-qualified for the position, thus making them 'legitimate' in my eyes - regardless of whether or not they are career politicians. " Therefore: 1) Good policy ideas 2) Well-qualified for the position I'm sure this won't satisfy you, either. well i guess that makes them legit to you. but good policy ideas is very subjective. some might find one idea good while another person finds the same idea bad. a tolerant person would not just rule people whose ideas they didnt agree on as being illegitimate. well-qualified means what? what type of things make someone well-qualified to be a politician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 well qualified means having expierience with dealing with issues of the job... in this case governor, which is a polictical office meaning you should have some polictical background. you should have expierience dealing with economic issues, immigration issues, health issues, and so forth. at the least be able to express your ideas openly and not in a pre-formatted setting or regurgitating the same non-sense over and over. arnold does not have these qualificationsor skills and most of the legitimate by definition, legally qualified, canidates lack these also. this should make them logically non legitamate for office. how can someone with no prior expierence in a job field now become the governor of the 5th largest economy in the world??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 if arnold wins the democratic party needs to find a new canidate for the next election to get the office back i believe. I think since bustamante is associated with the whole gray davis fiasco that that will always be a strike against him. they need to find a new 'face' that can win with his/her popularity!! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 well qualified means what?? it means you don't know shit if you don't know those definitions: well2 Audio pronunciation of well ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wl) adv. bet·ter, (btr) best (bst) 1. In a good or proper manner: behaved well. 2. Skillfully or proficiently: dances well. 3. Satisfactorily or sufficiently: slept well. 4. Successfully or effectively: gets along well with people. 5. In a comfortable or affluent manner: lived well. 6. In a manner affording benefit or gain; advantageously: married well. 7. With reason or propriety; reasonably: can't very well say no. 8. In all likelihood; indeed: You may well need your umbrella. 9. In a prudent or sensible manner: You would do well to say nothing more. 10. In a close or familiar manner: knew them well. 11. In a favorable or approving manner: spoke well of them. 12. Thoroughly; completely: well cooked; cooked well. 13. Perfectly; clearly: I well understand your intentions. 14. To a suitable or appropriate degree: This product will answer your needs equally well. 15. To a considerable extent or degree: well over the estimate. 16. With care or attention: listened well. 17. Entirely; fully: well worth seeing. qual·i·fy Audio pronunciation of qualified ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kwl-f) v. qual·i·fied, qual·i·fy·ing, qual·i·fies v. tr. 1. To describe by enumerating the characteristics or qualities of; characterize. 2. To make competent or eligible for an office, position, or task. 3. 1. To declare competent or capable; certify. 2. To make legally capable; license. 4. To modify, limit, or restrict, as by giving exceptions. 5. To make less harsh or severe; moderate. See Synonyms at moderate. 6. Grammar. To modify the meaning of (a noun, for example). it fucking means someone has spent a majority of time thinking about, understanding, and working in public office or service. mapo, you are just playing yourself out with this moronic debate. i can see you are just instigating poop man, but in the process you have painted yourself devoid of all meaningful commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by nomadawhat if arnold wins the democratic party needs to find a new canidate for the next election to get the office back i believe. I think since bustamante is associated with the whole gray davis fiasco that that will always be a strike against him. they need to find a new 'face' that can win with his/her popularity!! :rolleyes: Well, I don't know about that... before the recall even happened, it was known that Davis and Bustamante hadn't spoken to each other in a few months. I also think he's been totally successful in distancing himself from Davis' policies... Another thing about all this is that, at the time of his election, Davis was kind of a stop-gap solution to Cali's energy probs... and he solved those by selling the collective soul of the state for a few 'magic beans' that turned out to be plain old Lentls... And I think Bustamante has kept his hands pretty clean regarding that issue. *basically opting to steer clear of making decisions while allowing Davis to make decisions he 'disagreed with'... (this could be his achillies heel) Also, we should consider Arnold's ability to govern, which I don't think will be stellar. Basically, imho, the Republicans are showboating with a face everyone knows in an attempt to steal the last election and give them a boost in the next. Barring a stellar performance, I doubt Arnold will be encouraged to go for round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 bustamante has all that going for him now and he looks as if he can not garner enough support to win this election. too many people only look at the cover of politics, not enough dig down to the facts. thats why i think even being associated with the davis term it would be a huge blow to his chances. i think that people will want to move ahead, and bustamante may give them a feeling of moving back by association, which is hurting him now as well. so i think it would be best to get a new and qualified nominee(not saying bustamante is not). but hell, maybe there will be another recall in the next year and bustamante may being the only legitimate democratic option at that time. if arnold does become governor, he will have his hand held the whole way, and with his somewhat moderate views, he and his puppet masters may be able to challenge for office again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Well, one of Arnold's addresses today featured a live perfomance by Twisted Sister playing his campaign theme song 'We're Not Gonna Take It'... It's tough to compete with Dee Snider and such an organized 'Glossy' campaign but, with a year or so to reconvene his forces and focus on Arnold's possible political 'ho-hummery' I think Bustamante will be in a good position to challenge again... I'm a pessimistic, so, I expect Arnold to win but, the polls are still neck and neck and (if there is a God) some of the republican candidates will act as spoilers to pull Bustamante over the top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by Smart I'm a pessimistic I'm a old italian stereotype, what's a matta you?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 'neck and neck' may be a little optimistic for a pessimist. but i read they are pulling closer now. and don't get me wrong i think arnold's probable run in office will be less than ho-hum and much less than satifactory, but to those that are right of left, the majority I would think, it could unfourtanetley be enough to give him a chance at re-election. but i am putting the carriage in front of the horse here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 right, not 'still' neck and neck... but closing to neck and neck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by !@#$% i can see you are just instigating poop man, but in the process you have painted yourself devoid of all meaningful commentary Ding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by mapo returns well i guess that makes them legit to you. EXACTLY! That's what you asked for, and I responded accordingly. Originally posted by mapo returns but good policy ideas is very subjective. some might find one idea good while another person finds the same idea bad. a tolerant person would not just rule people whose ideas they didnt agree on as being illegitimate. well-qualified means what? what type of things make someone well-qualified to be a politician? I'll let others' responses serve as my own. I've grown tired of your attempts of playing Socrates. The only thing you've proven is that you can further nitpick any response I give and ask a few more questions. Anyone can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Originally posted by Pistol If any of you photoshop heads could make a pictures of Arnold with a Hitler stach it would be appreciated. oh yeah and Arnold is a fuckin' prick. well not quite, but something close. I have been seeing this wheatpasted all over the city. http://www.robbieconal.com/images/artburns/artburns_large/58_illustration_arnold.jpg'> art by robbie conal stolen from RonnieConal.com this one is all over too: http://www.robbieconal.com/images/posters/...45_flower_L.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Catch22 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) declared California in a fiscal crisis Thursday and invoked emergency powers so he could impose $150 million in spending cuts without the Legislature's approval. "I was elected by the people of this state to lead. Since the legislative leadership refuses to act, I will act without them," Schwarzenegger said Thursday in announcing the decision. The cuts, expected to come largely from social service programs, free up money for city and county governments that have lost more than $300 million since the governor voided an unpopular tripling of the state's car tax. Among the cuts announced so far are a .5 percent drop in support for the University of California and California State University systems, closing a migrant farmworker housing center and decreased funding for the Department of Motor Vehicles. Schwarzenegger had proposed suspending a civil rights measure that guarantees care for the disabled, but administration officials said he changed his mind. Schwarzenegger said he would cut about $150 million by the time the emergency powers expire on June 30, the end of the fiscal year. Repealing the car tax increase was Schwarzenegger's first official act as governor after voters ousting Democrat Gray Davis (news - web sites) in a recall election, but the actor-turned-governor has yet to replace the billions of dollars the tax would have generated for local government services, particularly police and fire services. The same budget agreement between Davis and the Legislature that increased the car tax gave the governor the one-time power to cut this year's budget without legislative approval. Some legislators said Thursday they were surprised by Schwarzenegger's emergency declaration and said it is the wrong way to react to budget problems. "I think a lot of us are worried about where he's going to get the money from," said Democratic Assemblyman Joe Nation. "I don't think you get yourself out of a hole by digging deeper — his action just means that there will be more devastating cuts down the road." Way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old*824 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by Pistol No because he's a liar, has no experience, has no actual blueprints to improve California, dodges debates, wants to tax Indian casino's 1 billion dollars to save California's problems made by Sacramento, fails to answer questions with legitimate answers. Oh yeah KILL WHITEY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 mapo, your a fucking retard. it amazes me how stupid you are. gary coleman cant run because hes a handicapped minority. there, ill be the ignorant white guy in this topic. hate on me and bash white folks. yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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