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I think we should talk about this for a second. For the new people on here. You said that they are "legit," and this is short for "Legitimate." Lets look at the dictionary for this one: OTR = On The Run. These markers are NOT legit. OTR did not create the markers they sell. They do nothing but profit off of other peoples NON commercial ideas. This isn't about politics of graffiti. This about survival of a counter-culture that has heavy roots in custom modifications of consumer products, and innovation of new non commercial devices for our... let's say "trade." Writing... Really writing, not just legal piecing, but getting down by getting up is a lot like a labor skill. A trade skill. Not every artist can pick up a can and hit a rooftop. Or drop a styled out tag. Not every big time writer can create a canvased work of art. Some don't care about art. This isn't art. It's vandalism and if you think its not... then you need not be in this game. I'm almost back on point. Writing isn't and was never meant to be in a commercial on TV or on your shoes(unless your boy or yourself did them for you), or even on this internet. It wasn't made to be sold. Copied, and reproduced over and over again for a revenue. It was made out displaced youth. Kids that just didn't fit in. Now the cool kids are the writers. A lot of them have never struggled for the tools to use. A lot have never respected the origins of this whole idea. That's all writing is. It's ideas. Ideas you don't sell. You give away for free and in some cases risk a lot to give your free message(weather its positive or negative). So, not in my opinion... this one I will call fact and let the those without guilt cast the first stone... Small, American, companies like Krink, DED, Oink, Junobo, and MANY OTHERS that are small and created by REAL writers are keeping things real and doing for themselves. You want a LEGIT marker that is refillable? MAKE ONE YOURSELF. If you can't or want something better than you can make, go here: http://www.nycmop.com ^^The MOST legit marker that you can purchase guilt free. I am not bitting the hand that feeds me with this attitude. I am just manning up and choosing the hand I eat from. Stay local, educate yourself, and seriously... don't sell out through buying in. Respect to: Krink. Do Em Dirty NycMops OurInk Junobo Everyone else: Respect the scene that you did NOT create. And support the locals.

I know the answer. It's on the first page. It's ironically on the page before this one. Your assumptions in your above post are incorrect. 1-934-778-7243... again, thats 1-9-FIRST-PAGE.

No problem. It was on the first page of this thread. I just showed pictures of the specific products that I used.

First off, AWESOME! GOOD for you! 2nd... go get the minwax oil based BLUE stain. When you do this mix again, use less thinner and more of the BLUE stainer. The stainer works like thinner but with a staining pigment, thus adding to the color opacity. The DOT 3 is for the ghosting and slight(SLIGHT) corrosion of the surface you are on. Nice work! Also, if it gets too thin... just add more paint. This formula does work this way, which rules!

If you ever mixed your own "jungle green" out of summer squash and true green... (pre montana/molotow/graff paint companies) You would know. I will leave this one floating for a few and see how it turns out. What a messy procedure. Almost as bad as mixing tattoo ink from powder to liquid!

I can't believe you are still talking about this. Go outside for a while... get away from the computer. Do you even know Johnehh personally? What does it matter. Why hate?

^^classic.

The axe transfer... I remember seeing that.

I really appreciate the fact that there are intelligent people on here actually helping out and not fueling off topic fighting. EDIT:^^directed at Junobo, but includes several of you awesome cats in there. You know who you are.

Fuck whatchya herd... If you are teaching yourself to do this: You are one step closer to beast status! Almost there. Just go taller and faster! Hats off to RED. /nosarcasm /nohomo

Or just in your pocket.

Crystal City Va. The main patent office. They rake in the dough big time!

Every time I have gone to there site, its been up and working fine for me. I would say that http://www.durablesupply.com is pretty reliable. [smiling...] /nohomo

One of those, and some Junobo... Perfect combo. Seriously. /nosarcasm

^^Best thing I have heard in a while! Co-signed!

Nah. Just a simple paint mix. Nothing special. But it's up.

Hero

The only reason you would want a kiwi mop, or any mop, instead of the NYCmop is that you might want to use paint instead of ink. Junobo rather than Oink or DED for instance. Everything works in kiwi's, but only ink in the NYC mop. But remember... this NYCmop is the real dopeness from way back. It's solid and just like the classic original mops of the way back days. Super Duty Tough Work!

It's supposed to be a white pigment stencil ink. So it will be really thin... not like paint, but should be almost opaque white. Oink: can you spill some of that on the floor and take a flick? I really want to see this stuff now as well. I have this feeling that it will come out looking like skim milk... but thats just my mind thinking the worst. EDIT: In response to the White Marsh

^^big co-sign! But you can ONLY use ink in it. It's what its made for.

So I was going to gift that rest of that red I posted up to friend around my area, but it was about half full. So I had some yellow that I have been using for ground tags and thought... oh shit... This would make a really great orange! So I take one of my ground bottles and start to squeeze in this awesome yellow... Shake, shake, shake... MOTHER FUCKER! It was totally latex. I knew it was latex and I just wasn't thinking. Now I was waiting for them to totally separate and suction out the two colors separately, but every time I look at the bottle I get all bummed out. I'm just going to start over with something else. I will tell you though... the best part of that paint is bottle. It's a Knob Creek Whiskey bottle that has a plastic and cork cap that fits perfectly in the bottle. I was so stoked to gift it out... Live and learn I guess.

I like how all you have contributed to this thread is trying to call people out like it something people really want to hear. It isn't. If you ain't got something constructive to say, then why bother? You just end up sounding like all the other weak "writer for the summer" toys that annoy this and other threads. No need for an answer.

^^see the red bottle on the right? ^^see the action shot? Met this kid and gave him some of my stuff. Want to know MY recipe??? Start with one of these: Drink the whole thing! Next you want one of these in any red color: Make sure its Oil based and 8oz will do you(doesn't need to be the door paint either). You need some of this: It's super cheap, and you can the smallest amount you can find of any thinner. Next you want this(OIL BASED!!): In this color: Red Mahogany 225 Finally, some of this: Directions... 1.Take the full 8oz tin of the rusto oil based red and pour it into the empty knob creek bottle(not all of it will come out, but thats ok). 2.Next take 1oz of the thinner(+/- .5oz) and put it into the rusto tin that you just emptied. The will break up the paint that wouldn't come out. 3.Put 2oz of the Oil based Minwax red wood stain into the tin with the thinner. Close the rusto tin tight and shake the shit out of it. 4.Open the tin and pour the new contents into the bottle of paint. Close the bottle, and shake the shit out of it. Let it sit, and repeat. 5.Open the bottle and add 1oz of the Dot3 Break fluid(less IS more). Shake! Thats it. If it's too thick, add .5oz of the Minwax wood stainer. Consider this one... a freebie! Good luck. Junobo's mix is way better than this and worth the loot. Oinks ink is ridiculously better than this mix, but it's not red... Yet. DED... same thing... but the man has some shit in store for all of us! ^^Quality shit to buy! I make my own, and I am cool with that. But I still buy these guys stuff as well... for when I want to impress the ladies and shit. Check em all out!

I've seen a lot of setups like that throughout the years. It's like when you find that perfect marker... Nothing works as good as this marker, and its all busted and leaky but you can't stop using it!

^^google oner posts something every page. I'm going to start my own business too. I'm going start a graffiti hot line! If you need help with making a marker, need a tip on what to put in your ink/paint, having problems painting a piece with more than 3 colors in it, need assistance with getting that 3rd letter of your one liner throwie connected without a shitty "loop 'd' loop" going through the whole thing, or you are just lonely and need someone the yell at you... Call me NOW for a free readin'... 1-934-778-7243 Thats: 1-9-FIRST-PAGE!! Why... Because "1-900-Read-the-first-fucking-page-of-the-thread!" was way too many letters to fit in the number slots! 99cents for the first minute, 50cents for ever minute after the first. As always, if you end up crying on the phone, and don't hang up... You get 3 extra minutes for FREE!