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^^^haha...yeah, ....scientists you can keep your fine and dandy "science"!!!

The media does cater to sensationalism, I don't doubt that, and if Ted Turner was caught with a prostitute I'm sure CNN would cover it just like every other station. But, what I don't think these larger corporations are willing to do is investigative reporting on touchy subjects which, A) might effect legislature concerning their subsidiaries B) might upset some of their corporate partners C) might cause a public uproar and shift US policy ...for instance, I highly doubt NBC will ever be able to afford to upset the pentagon in any way, seeing that GE is granted billions in gov't contracts every year...they pretty much do what they are told. In fact the line between big business and politics is so blurred that US foreign/domestic/environmental policy is generally in the same interest as GE/Ted Turner/Rupert Murdoch/CBS... ...it's understood what is acceptable to do investigative reporting on, thats why all these scandals and appearent cover-ups are only headlines for a week before they get shoved out of our memory and hardly ever mentioned again. So, yeah the TV news will report what the public wants to hear, but they understand very clearly when to drop it and move on to the next big story. Like the tax cuts...or cheney's secret energy meetings...or Bush's deep ties with ken lay... or what Bush's siblings do... or his grandfather... or Bush's dad's involvement in Iran/contra... or all the missing money in Iraq... or the gas pipeline in afgahnistan... or why Bush allowed Osama's family to fly out of the country on Sept. 12... Or the shotty elections... I can't say what direct connection some of the media giants have to all these scandals but I'm sure there is some reason why they won't investigate any further than whatver the status quo was. In some cases it's probably public image matter, that they don't want to make waves and lose conservative advertisers... But I agree you have to get your news from multiple places, the TV is where you can get your daily dose of sensationalism and a quick blurb about what happened today.

well... Maintstream media might be biased towards the green. Believe it or not I think there are some media sources truely concerned with being unbiased, but they aren't the ones on TV. I'd venture to say most americans (at least most of the republicans) get their news from the TV. But...the mainstream media is also owned by multi-nat'l corporations who have vested interests in how the american public interprets news. So in a sense they are driven not just by money, but by their own investments...ie. iraq, defense industry, environmental regulations. I'm not sure how it breaks down anymore...G.E. owns nbc/msnbc and viacom is a subsidiary of some other corporation...I forgot..but these corporations make serious amounts of money when we go to war or when so and so gets elected or when environmental regulations are lifted... therefore they under report them or spin the story in favor of some corporation and fail to mention their parent company also owns said corporation. But then the media makes us really mad about gay people and liberals and demonstrators and when celebrities break up. So then really confused people log on to internet forums and bitch about welfare abusers and the liberal media and why our new strategy in iraq will work....haha.

What movie about the one guy from germany are you talking about? And you think washington couldn't keep a secret?...I'm not saying anything about conspiracies here but, I assure you "washington" has plenty of secrets.

^^yeah, really....thats more or less the point I was trying to make a week ago... "domestic spying" has been going on for a long long time. All the CIA has to do is get a warrant from a judge. And then they can spy on akhbar or timothy or whoever the warrant is for, whether they are a citizen or not. The law says a warrant must be issued before they can spy on someone...not that the person must be living here illegaly before they can spy on them. I'm sure after 911 it's much easier to obtain a warrant anyways. I guess the Bush administration finds it easier to just go ahead and break the law...and then later on they will explain to us why it doesn't matter and how that law was what caused 911 in the first place. So it's not a question of wether the gov't can keep an eye on suspicous people(they already do) the question is should they be able to break laws behind our back and spy on EVERYONE without anyone knowing. And that is a good point, we're not going to be able to stop terrorism completely. So these laws will keep getting more and more invasive. Another point, how many domestic acts of terrorism have been commited? All the abortion clinic bombings, timothy mcveigh, altlanta's olympic park, or what about all of the race crimes in this countries past. Isn't that good enough reason to put everyone under 24 hour surveillance.

You're simplifying what I said to support your argument. We're not talking about just any "dang ole towel head" (although that is a very clever slur)....we're talking about someone who was suspected of having direct ties to al-queda...and was being watched years before 911 even happened. So this guy was in new york city(which alqueda had attacked once already) he was leaving the country and returning frequently, and you're saying that a judge wouldn't have issued a warrant to keep an eye on an al-queda foot soldier? I'm not really that opposed to what Bush has actualy done here...It doesn't surprise me that they want to monitor int'l calls, especially calls to middle eastern countries. It's the principle though, that they are breaking the law behind our back, and tightening the noose around the public's privacy. If you're so opposed to big gov't you should be concerned that they granting themselves the power to monitor your every move. And it's all being done in the name of patriotism. You want to be protected by the gov't? Then tell them to stop conquering other countries and creating massive amounts of future terrorists in the process. Or maybe you want more war and violence because you get off on it...lets go kill some towel heads. yeah.

If we were tracking Zacharious Moussaui years before 911 and we knew he was linked to al-queda...I'm sure once he entered and re-entered the country (EVEN IF HE WAS HERE LEGALLY) a court would have granted a warrant to keep him under surviellance. I think it was still legal even way back in 2001 to spy on americans IF they recieved a warrant. And I'm sure they could have gotten a warrant issued to watch an al-queda operative. So, your wrong. The CIA could have been watching the terrorist cells legally...and even if they were watching illegaly, I assure you someone, anyone, could have bent the rules and swept it under the rug just to keep an eye on al-queda(sp?). But, no, of course your attitude seems to be it's not Bush, or our gov'ts fault. It's the goddamn liberals fault 911 happened. Use some common sense. EDIT: after reading my post I'll take back my statement that you're wrong...you are most likely wrong. ha. But seriously...though.

Man... ...fox news doesn't lean a little too far to the right. Fox news is not a news agency. They don't "lean" either way. Fox news only exists to benefit the republican agenda. End of story. Most other major news agencies don't report liberal news, especially tv news agencies. I wish I could drill that through peoples heads. Liberal news might really discuss what happened in the 2000 and 2004 elections. They might discuss the Bush family history. They might discuss what the tax cuts are doing to lower and middle class america. They might investigate the official story of 911 and why so many things don't add up. Or maybe why corporations these days have more rights than humans do. Or look into which social programs are being cut in order to pay for an illegal war based on (lies) bad intelligence, in which a lot of the contracts have been awarded to our vice presidents company. Or bush's dui in texas, or cocaine habit in college, or the fact he was a fucking cheerleader. Why don't they do some reports about how walmart is putting so many small business' under and the gov't hasn't stepped in to stop it. Or the fact that a few mega-corporations own 90% of the media and control what most americans are exposed to. ..blah blah blah. I know a few of these stories have been glossed over during a 3 minute segment on 20/20...but a lot of this should be headline news night after night with real investigating going on.

Freedom. Iraq is free now.

I wonder if just being a member of the NRA increases your chances of suicide and or death by firearm. Modern day militias are really pointless. If guns aren't needed for self protection then why do you guys keep using this milita argument for owning guns? Are you guys gonna defeat the dea/fbi when they kick your doors in? Or is the point that if we all had guns we would all be safe from each other and the gov't? I agree guns are cool. They look cool, they are capable of shooting bullets (which is really cool) and they are made to kill things. That IS cool. And if we all had one we could resort to our guns when we feel threatened, I can't think of a better scenario....americans scared shitless by their gov't and stockpiling automatic rifles with an endless supply of bullets. So that one day...when our gov't has the strongest most deadly military ever, we can rise up.... ....and then die. yay. And in the meantime, while we stock our ammo and guns we'll be tricked into voting republican (so we can keep our sacred guns) and allow our gov't to strip us of REAL NATURAL RIGHTS.

I don't want to find where you've been stealing ideas from. I don't want to read your posts.

Man...calm down. First of all you just (mistakenly) inferred something about me and why I'm even posting...appearantly to strengthen your argument... Second, I was refering to your entire demeanor...the fact that you're so charged of conservative anger and libertarian ideals. Political propaganda(liberal or conservative) usually tries to spark some sort of distaste for the opposition. And the reason I'm coming out of the woodwork is not because you hurt my feelings(wtf? don't flatter yourself) it's because I don't pay attention to crossfire anymore b/c it's a waste of time...and I seriously advise you to stop coming in here to vent on your political views you'd probably start feeling better in general if you quit reading books like "Curious George and the Iranian funded militant group Fatah's adventure in the Caspian Region." ...but whatever kid. Keep on proving those liberals wrong...and buying those books so you can regurgitate something in your next post.

Sorry, dude, you are the one spitting out rhetoric. You are obviously way way into politics and reading....I can tell you probably read a lot of political material, that is true right? If you're not reading this stuff you must be listening to it on talk radio. Really man, it's so obvious that you haven't actually formed you own opinions, you just eat up everything you read. And then you spit back out on a forum.

Also, for all intents and purposes the rich guy living off of robbing people is statistically non-existent. The only segment that approaches this description is that of middle-class adolescents. The rest of criminals are generally in the lower income brackets. Quoted post [/b] I think "the rich guy living off of robbing people" was a reference to people like Ken Lay/ Neil Bush...Cheney....and other CEO's who continously rip off the american public by commiting white collar crime resulting in millions upon millions of dollars being stolen. Where as a poor guy robs a convenient store with a gun and steals $1,000 gets 10 years. To me large scale white collar crimes committed by people who are already multi-millionaires is much much more hienous than crimes most poor people commit (with the exception of murder, child molestation, rape) I also think, when you have a drug lord killing another drug lord...or most gang violence for that matter...is different than some psycho killing an old lady. Those dudes knew what they were involved with, and the people tookie may have killed were probably murderers themselves who would have killed him given the chance. So I strongly disagree with the death penalty in this case. I do support it in other cases but I also think a lot of innocent people have been wrongly executed.

Kabar is a scared old man who has the political attitude of a unich(sp) He's taken the path of least resistance. It must help him sleep easier.

^^true, but it almost seemed more like they wanted to lash out at the city in general for letting such a racist and twisted display of the first ammendment take place. It sucks that they couldn't just beat the shit outta the nazi's, I guess the nazi's practically had a police escort.

Your first paragraph hits the nail on the head. But in the second paragraph you seem to confuse the two parties.... It's the republicans who just engaged in an uneccesary, expensive, war that we are losing...not to mention the reasons for war were based on lies, and the real reasons are extremely obvious when considering the ancestry of our president. If thats not the most fucking irresponsible thing our gov't has done in the last 4 decades, then I don't know the definition of irresponsible. Not to mention this war is extremely immoral too. but whatever. I guess clinton was waay more irresponsible and immoral when he got his dick sucked.

well, you're right, unfortunately politics revolve around power and money. (not democracy, voting, justice, equality, freedom, liberty or anything else) But at the beginning of this thread you're spewing out rhetoric as if one party (republican) is not as guilty as the other. When in reality, in the case at hand, it is the republicans who are guilty. So what you're doing here with this thread is just continuing a retarded fucking cycle of name calling. But then later on (after the spin of the media has died down and you're not constantly exposed to the rhetoric you were regurgitating a couple weeks ago) you come to the conclusion that it's just politics as usual.

yeah, it says they banned the use of the machines. That doesn't mean the votes weren't tallied on diebold or es&s software.

So...it looks like dude has definitely been involved in something illegal (I really doubt anyone would make these allegations up) ...why can't the right wing just accept that he might be guilty of very very serious crimes? Why is it automaticaly a partisan issue...if the situation was reversed would the right wing be screaming "See how corrupt the democrats are."

It's funny they have PR firms working for them. B/c they just rig the elections in the end. I guess they know they are going to win regardless, they just have to make it look semi-believable that anyone would vote for them. It's been rumored that Bush was coached to pronounce words wrong and appear less intelligent than he is to acheive the good ole boy image. that should be really insulting to anyone that voted for him. Obviously they were targeting the under educated sector...people easily swayed by stuff like "he wants to take yer guns away" "abortion, is it murder?" "gay people are an abomination of marriage" "jesus loves america" When I see those W stickers I have to get a look at the dipshit driving, so I know what it looks like to be brainwashed. (unless it's a $50,000 car they have no reason to vote for the devil)

ohh, you liberals and your little conspiracy theories. You mean to tell me that the voting industry is controlled by republican funamentalists? So what your saying, is that we don't actualy live in a democracy? That we live under a totalitarian regime who stole control of the country...no, I refuse to believe that.

The cops that actually pulled the triggers should be relieved of their duties. Those dudes must be going through some real serious mental problems now. After that I don't think they should ever be assigned to anything remotely similar to this situation.... ..Imagine blowing someone's brains out at point blank range in a moment of panic, and almost instantly realizing it was all a mistake...(an unfortunate yet preventable mistake) At most these guys should sit behind a desk at their little scotland yard office for the rest of their career.

This goes all the way back to W's great grandparents.... 1897: Long-established Union Pacific Railroad (UPR) bankrupted. 1898: Edward Henry Harriman & legal partner, Judge Robert Scott Lovett, buy UPR for $110 million, a deal brokered by New York-based Kuhn Loeb investment bank house, of which Felix Warburg was a partner.During this period, Samuel Prescott Bush was president of the Buckeye Steel Castings Co. 1914: With war looming, Percy A. Rockefeller took control of the arms manufacturer, Remington Arms & appoints Samuel F. Pryor as CEO. 1918: Robert Scott Lovett (above) now president of UPR. Samuel Prescott Bush (above) made director of the facilities division of the US War Industries Board under its chairman Bernard Baruch & his assistant, the banker Clarence Dillon. Nov.1919: George Herbert Walker forms W.A.Harriman & Co. bank - with Walker as president & chief executive, & Averell Harriman (son of Edward Henry Harriman - above) as chairman (He was to become US Ambassador to the USSR [‘43 - ‘46]; US Secretary of Commerce [‘46 - ‘48]; & Governor of NY State [‘55 - ‘59]) 1920: Averell Harriman & George Herbert Walker of W.A.Harriman & C0. gain control of the German Hamburg-Amerika Line after negotiations with the latter’s chief executive, William Cuno, & Max Warburg of the shipping line’s bankers, M.M. Warburg. The American holding now known as the American Ship & Commerce Corp. (ASCC). Samuel F. Pryor (above) of Remington Arms had been involved in the deal & now served on the board of ASCC. (Cuno was subsequently to become a heavy contributor to Nazi Party funds). It should be noted that Averell Harriman was chairman of UPR from 1920-1946. 1922: Averell Harriman set up a branch of W. A. Harriman & Co. in Berlin under the residency of his partner, George H. Walker. Oct. 1923: Fritz Thyssen’s contributions to the Nazi Party began with a donation of 100,000 marks (ref: his book “I Paid Hitler” ‘41). Prior to ‘24: As revealed in a US government memorandum dated Oct. 5 ‘42 to the Executive Committee of the office of the Alien Property Custodian: “W. Averell Harriman was in Europe sometime prior to 1924 & at that time became acquainted with Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist”, and they agreed to set up a bank for Thyssen in New York. It adds that the Thyssen agent “H. J. Kouwenhoven..came to the United States..prior to 1924 for conferences with the Harriman company in this connection”. 1924: W.A.Harriman & Co invested $400,000 in setting up Union Banking Corp. (UBC) in New York to act in partnership with the Thyssen-owned Bank voor Handel en Scheepvart (Bank for Trade and Shipping, BHS) in Holland. The UBC was now in a position to transfer funds back & forth between the US and Thyssen’s companies in Germany - his Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel) in particular. Prescott Sheldon Bush Snr. (son of Samuel Bush, & son-in-law of George H Walker) joins the Harriman - controlled US Rubber Co. 1926: Prescott S. Bush Snr. made Vice-President of W. A. Harriman & Co. The Wall Street banker, Clarence Dillon (an old colleague of Prescott S. Bush Snr.’s father, Sam Bush - see above), of Dillon Read, set up the German Steel Trust with Thyssen & partner, Friedrich Flick, whereby Dillon Read would handle the Trust’s corporate banking in return for two Dillon Read representatives being on the board of the German Steel Trust, whose chief executive was Albert Voegler, another German industrialist who was to help Hitler into power. He (Voegler) also held directorships in the BHS bank, & the Hamburg-Amerika Line. The UBC was by now in partnership with Friedrich Flick’s vast steel, coal & zinc conglomerate operating in Germany & Poland - the Silesian Holding Co. Walker, Bush, & Harriman now owned one third of Flick’s conglomerate, calling their holding the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corp. 1930/’31; As admitted by Fritz Thyssen during interrogation in Sept. ‘45, he arranged with Rudolph Hess for the transfer of “about 250-300,000 marks” via his (Thyssen’s) Dutch bank BHS to the Nazi Party - adding it was “about the sum I’d given before”. In total, he had donated & loaned more than one million dollars to the Nazi Party. Jan. 1 ‘31: W. A. Harriman & Co. merged with the British-American investment house, Brown Brothers, resulting in Prescott S. Bush Snr., Thatcher M. Brown & the two Harriman brothers being the senior partners of the new Brown Brothers Harriman firm. A board member of Brown Bros., Robert A. Lovett (son of Robert Scott Lovett [above] & Asst. Sec. for Air [in WW2]; Under Sec. of State [‘47 - ‘49]; Dep. Sec. of Defense [‘50 - ‘51]; Secretary of Defense [‘51 - ‘53]), an American whose father had served on the War Industries Board of WW 1 with Sam Bush [above]), became another partner in the newly- merged firm. Prescott S. Bush Snr. now ran the New York office of the the newly-merged firm, while Thatcher Brown ran the London end. vCertain pertinent facts about Brown Bros. are worthy of note here: Montagu Collet Norman, governor of the Bank of England & well-known Nazi sympathiser, was not only an ex-Brown Bros. partner - his grandfather had also been boss of Brown Bros. during the American Civil War when they (Brown Bros.) were shipping 75% of slave cotton from the southern states of America to British mills. 1932: As reported by the US embassy in Berlin to Washington not long before Hitler’s taking over of power, questions were being raised as to who were the financial backers behind the Nazi Party electioneering & their 300,000 - 400,000 SA & SS troops - adding that the American-owned Hamburg-Amerika Line was funding propaganda against the German government’s attempts to disband these troops! Jan. 1933: Hitler assumes power in Germany. Mar. 7 ‘33: Prescott S. Bush Snr. notified Max Warburg (above) that he (Warburg) was to be the American Ship & Commerce Line official representative on the board of the Hamburg- Amerika Line. Warburg had been a long-time advisor to Hjalmar Schacht (German Economics Minister & a close friend of Montagu Norman), & was an executive in the Reichsbank. A further pertinent connection: Max Warburg’s brothers ran the Kuhn Loeb investment bank, which had handled E. H. Harriman’s buy-out of the Union Pacific Railroad in the 1890’s (above). Mar. 29 ‘33: As revealed in Moshe Gottlieb’s book “American Anti-Nazi Resistance ‘33 - ‘41”, Max Warburg’s son, Erich, cabled his cousin, Frederick Warburg - who was a director of the Union Pacific Railroad - instructing him to use his influence to stop all anti-Nazi propaganda & activity in America. Mar. 31 ‘33: As a result: the American-Jewish committee (within which the Warburgs had much influence) & The B’nai B’rith (which subsequently became known as the Anti-Defamation League) issued a joint statement counselling “that no American boycott against Germany be encouraged”! May. 20. ‘33: As reported in the New York Times: on Hitler achieving power, an agreement to coordinate all trade between Germany & America was reached in Berlin after negotiations between Hitler’s Economics Minister, Hjalmar Schacht (above) & John Foster Dulles. As a result of this, the Harriman International Co. - under Oliver Harriman (Averell’s first cousin) - formed a syndicate of 150 firms/individuals to conduct all exports from Germany to America. It should be noted here that the two Dulles brothers, partners in the corporate law firm Sullivan & Cromwell, had acted for many Nazi enterprises during & after this period, including I. G. Farben, developer of the nerve gas, Tabun; SKF, supplier of 60% of its bearings to Germany; & the Schroeder Banking house, of which Allen Welsh Dulles became a director of its New York branch - a post he held until 1944. (Further pertinent details of the Dulles brothers: J. F. Dulles became Secretary of State [‘53 - ‘59]; A. W. Dulles became CIA Deputy Director for Plans [‘51]; Deputy Director of Central Intelligence [‘51 - ‘53]; & Director of CIA [‘53 -’61]). Sept. 5 ‘33: North German Lloyd Co. merged with Hamburg-Amerika Line in Hamburg. Nov. 4 ‘33: American Ship & Commerce Corp. (owners of Hamburg-Amerika - see above) installed long-time Harriman executive, Christian Beck as manager of ‘freight & operations’ in North America for this newly-merged company, now known as Hapag-LLoyd, whose chairman was Emil Helfferich, a Nazi. Nazi security guards accompanied all shipping so engaged in this trade. Sept. ‘34: At the US Senate Nye Committee hearings, it was revealed that Samuel Pryor, executive ctte. chairman of Remington arms & founding director of both the UBC & the American Ship & Commerce Corp., had joined in a cartel agreement with I. G. Farben, the German chemical/armaments conglomerate (see above). It was further revealed that the Nazi troops (noted above) were “nearly all armed with American guns”. Dec. 7 ‘41: Japanese bomb Pearl Harbour - US now in World War 2. Aug. 28 ‘42: Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the US government - via Leo T. Crowley, the US Alien Property Custodian - ordered the seizure of all property of Hapag-LLoyd. Oct. 20 ‘42: Leo T. Crowley, the US Alien Property Custodian - seized the stock shares of the Union Banking Corp. of New York, whose shareholders were: Chm./Dir. E. Rowland Harriman (of Brown Brothers Harriman); Pres./Dir. Cornelis Lievense (banking functionary for the Nazis); Treasurer/Dir. Harold D. Pennington (of Brown Brothers Harriman); Dir. Ray Morris (of Brown Brothers Harriman); Dir. Prescott S. Bush Snr.(of Brown Brothers Harriman); Dir. H.J. Kouwenhoven (Dir./Chief foreign financial exec. of German Steel Trust & the man who had brokered the deal between Fritz Thyssen & the UBC); Dir. Johann G. Groeninger (Industrial Exec. in Nazi Germany). These seized shares were described in the Vesting Order as “shares held for the benefit of members of the Thyssen family, property of nationals.. of a designated enemy country”. Oct. 28 ‘42: US government seized 2 Nazi front companies - the Seamless Steel Equipment Corp. & Holland-American Trading Corp. - both run by the UBC. .Nov. 17 ‘42: Nazi financial interests (only) in Silesian-American Corp. (above) seized, leaving US partners (UBC) “to carry on the business”. Jul. 2 ‘45: As revealed by the US Treasury Dept. in hearings before a 79th Congress committee: the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (see above) had produced the following proportions of Nazi Germany’s total output: Pig iron 50.8%; Pipe & tubes 45.5%; Universal plate 41.4%; Galvanised sheet 38.5%; Heavy plate 36%; Explosives 35%; Wire 22.1%. 1954: George Herbert Walker Bush Snr. (son of Prescott S. Bush Snr., grandson of Samuel Bush & George Walker - see above) now president of Zapata Offshore (oil drilling company). He had previously joined Dresser Industries & subsequently co-founded the Bush-Overby Development Co. (both in oil). ‘71 - ‘72: George Herbert Walker Bush Snr. made US ambassador to UN. 1972: George Bush Snr. made chairman of the Republican Party National committee. ‘74 - ‘75: In aftermath of President Nixon’s resignation, President Gerald Ford appointed George Bush Snr. to head the US Liaison Office in Beijing Jan. 30 ‘76 - Mar. 9 ‘77: George Bush Snr. Director of CIA. 1979: During Jimmy Carter’s presidency, & as a result of the Sandanista rebellion led by Daniel Ortega, the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza fled the country. Jan. 20 ‘81: Ronald Reagan now president with George Bush Snr. his Vice-President. Defeat of the left-wing Sandanistas became an immediate aim of the Reagan Administration, & this was to be implemented using secretive methods (which were later to prove illegal) under the control of the Special Situations Group, whose chairman was Vice-President George Bush Snr. (who had wrested this post from Secretary of State Alexander Haig early on). Enter Lieutenant-Colonel Oliver North who served on both the Inter-Departmental Group on Terrorism & the Terrorist Incident Working Group - both under Bush. They were to set-up, finance & arm an anti-Sandanista militia, the Contras, using neighbouring Guatemala as a training ground. 1983: Contras begin offensive against Sandanistas in Nicaragua. Apr. ‘84: US congress refuses to authorise $24 million aid to Contras requested by Reagan. Sept. ‘84: The small oil company Arbusto Energy Inc. founded by George Walker Bush Jnr. (eldest son of George H. W. Bush Snr.) in the mid-70’s proves to be an unsuccessful venture & is bought out by another oil company, Spectrum 7 Energy Corp. George W. Bush Jnr. is made president of Spectrum. Oct. ‘84: Congress cuts off any funding & support to the Contras. John Ellis (‘Jeb’) Bush, the 2nd eldest son of George Bush Snr. - & a real estate developer - had been acting as the Reagan administration’s unofficial link with Contra & Nicaraguan exiles in Miami. He also put the right-wing Guatemalan politician, Dr. Mario Castejon, in touch with Oliver North, which led to Castejon & Henry Whaley ( a former arms dealer) proposing that the State Department supply medicines, field hospitals & light aircraft to the Contras. This proposal was passed to the CIA via TGS International, a firm owned by Ted Shackley, who had served as Associate Deputy Director of Operations in the CIA under George Bush Snr. (‘76 - ‘77). Dec. ‘85: Congress partially lifts ban on Contra aid, & authorises $13 million in aid - plus $27 million for ‘humanitarian’ aid. 1986: Behind-the-scenes machinations of the US Administration becomes public knowledge with the revelation of the illegal ‘Arms for Hostages’ scandal - known as the ‘Iran-Contra affair’. The Spectre 7 Energy Corp. (above) proves to be another unsuccessful venture for George W. Bush Jnr. It is sold to another small oil company, Harken Energy Corp., a deal whereby the partners in Spectrum received $2 million worth of shares in Harken, & George Bush Jnr. was made director & consultant of the Harken - with the added bonus of $600,000 extra shares. Oct. ‘86: US Congress lifts remaining ban & authorises £100 million aid to Contras. 1987: In a CBS interview with Jane Wallace, Michael ‘Mickey’ Tolliver, a pilot involved in the trade of drugs, revealed details of one flight he had made involving the Contras: he had flown to Honduras with a cargo of 28.000 lbs of guns & ammunition, & after a 3-day rest there he had returned with a cargo of 25,360 lbs of marijuana - landing at the US Airforce Base in Homestead, Florida, where the cargo was unloaded! He had been paid $75.000. Mar. 11 ‘88: Robert McFarlane (Reagan’s National Security Advisor ‘83 - ‘85) found guilty of criminal charges of witholding information from Congress about secret aid to the Contras. Mar. 16 ‘88: John Poindexter (National Security Advisor from ‘85 - ‘86) & Oliver North (National Security Council - see above) both charged with conspiracy to defraud the US Government - but trials delayed. Late ‘88: US Federal Regulators shut down Silverado Banking Savings & Loan co., due, primarily, to non-repayment of questionable loans they had made. Neil Bush (3rd son of George Bush Snr.) had been director of Silverado from ‘85. Jan. 20 ‘89: George Bush Snr. inaugurated as president of US. May ‘89: Oliver North convicted on 3 counts, & in July ‘89 is fined $150,000 - plus a 3-year suspended jail sentence. June ‘89: President George Bush Snr. imposed economic sanctions on China as a result of Tiananmen Square killings. Soon after these sanctions were imposed, the President’s older brother, Prescott Bush Jnr. of the consultancy firm Prescott Bush Resources, was hired by Asset Management International Financing & Settlement at a fee of $250,000 for consultation re-its (Asset’s) joint venture with China to set up the latter’s internal communications network. (This involved $300 million worth of Hughes Aircraft satellites - a key component of the deal). Concurrent with this, Prescott Bush Jnr. was also acting as middleman for the buying-out of Asset Management by West Tsusho, a Tokyo-based investment firm controlled by the Inagawakai branch of the Yakuza, the well-known politically influential Japanese Mob. For this he received a $250,000 ‘finder’s fee’ & promised an annual retainer of $250,000 for the next 3 years - as consultant. Nov. ‘89: US Congress passed additional sanctions specifically barring the export of US satellites to China - unless the president found the sale “in the national interest”. Dec. 19 ‘89: President George Bush Snr. lifted the sanctions, citing “the national interest”. 1990: Orlando Bosch, an anti-Castro Cuban, leader of the Coordination of United Revolutionary Organisations, who had masterminded many bombings in Cuba & a Cuban airliner over Barbados on October 5th ‘76, had finally been imprisoned in ‘88 in Miami for firing a bazooka at a Polish freighter in Miami harbour. He is now paroled after John Ellis Bush has lobbied his father’s administration for his release from prison. Jan. ‘90: Somewhat surprisingly for a small company, Harken Energy Corp. clinches a deal with the Gulf State of Bahrain, whereby the latter gives Harken exclusive right for oil & gas exploration. The report of the Office of Thrift Supervision into the failure of Silverado Banking revealed that Neil Bush (see above) had failed to disclose to Silverado Banking (on whose board he sat) his business connections with Ken Good & Bill Walters who had defaulted on $132 million in loans from Silverado. Good had given Neil Bush a $100,000 loan to invest in the commodities market. Neil Bush had Silverado write a letter of recommendation to Argentina, where Good International - in partnership with Neil Bush’s oil company JNB Exploration (which he had founded in ‘83) - was exploring for gas & oil. Bill Walters had contributed $150,000 to the initial capitalisation of JNB, and - through his bank Cherry Creek National Bank -had extended a $1.5 million line of credit to JNB (from which he, Bush, had drawn a salary of $500,000 over the next 5 years). Apr. 7 ‘90: John Poindexter convicted on 5 counts, & sentenced to 6 months imprisonment - but convictions of both North & Poindexter subsequently ‘set aside’. June 22 ‘90: George W. Bush Jnr. sold $848,560 of his Harken shares - & one week later the company announces a $23 million loss for the past quarter, & loses a further 60% of its value over the following 6 months. As the ‘News & World Report’ noted at the time: Bush Jnr. had recently been appointed by Harken to study the possible economic restructuring of the company! Aug. 2 ‘90: Iraq invades Kuwait. Mar. ‘91: Asset Management (see above) goes bankrupt, & the following year West Tsusho filed a $2.5 million suit against Prescott Bush Jnr. for not protecting their $5 million investment in Asset Management. Apr.19 ‘91: US Government declared Neil Bush a bankrupt & imposed sanctions on him for violating ‘conflict of interest’ rules. 1992: Caspar W. Weinberger (Secretary of Defense ‘81 - ‘87) indicted on 5 counts of lying to Congress. Dec. 24 ‘92: President George Bush Snr., having just been defeated by Clinton, pardons all those principal players (above) in the Iran-Contra scandal. 1998: George W. Bush Jnr. governor of Texas (for the second time); John Ellis (‘Jeb’) Bush governor of Florida. Jan. 20 ‘2001: George W. Bush inaugurated as president of the USA (with not a little help from his brother ‘Jeb’).

You're right! He wasn't born in texas...but he's spent most of his life there. Hell, he runs a ranch there, so he must be a cowboy. Gets his hands dirty out in the fields...yeehaw! Drives his ford f250 and chops wood when he's bored then he milks cows and does some boot scootin boogie, heyah! heyah! And sometimes he shoots his guns just to exercise his goddamn rights. yehaw! .....aaaannnddd, then he executes retared people in the gas chamber.