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^^^ that dude is trying to get fame for nothing!!! He was trying to claim being Stay High before Wayne came back into the picture after 25yrs... the guy keeps telling stories and the holes keep coming through... He can not provide one single shred of evidence to prove his claims all he has is his words, like we should believe him on that, saying he started in 1966, BULLSHIT!!! Show me a photo, ANY photo from 1966 that has a modern day graffiti tag in it with a number after it... This guy is a wanna be!!!!

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^^^ that dude is trying to get fame for nothing!!! He was trying to claim being Stay High before Wayne came back into the picture after 25yrs... the guy keeps telling stories and the holes keep coming through... He can not provide one single shred of evidence to prove his claims all he has is his words, like we should believe him on that, saying he started in 1966, BULLSHIT!!! Show me a photo, ANY photo from 1966 that has a modern day graffiti tag in it with a number after it... This guy is a wanna be!!!!

 

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sorry to break it to you bro. 1966 stevie wonder down to earth album.

 

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I'm not convinced that there is only one StayHigh 149. The fame of Wayne StayHigh came largely from the 80s generation of writers, based on a time period probably going back to the mid 70s. It's not comprehensive history, which it can NEVER be. There's always going to be a story or a viewpoint that's as true as anything else, which has never been heard. Who's to say it couldn't be? There is no master narrative of graffiti, just the myths/legends that keep the same people getting paid over and over. No question that the StayHigh149 that was famous was the most up, and that appears to be Wayne.

 

I love how people look for one absolute truth out of a "movement" that never was organized... a bunch of kids, many of whom were hanging by a thread, poverty and/or drugs, and the ones who survived are expected to have total recollection of it all AND be unbiased? That's asking for too much. There is no single "correct" history.

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I'm not convinced that there is only one StayHigh 149. The fame of Wayne StayHigh came largely from the 80s generation of writers, based on a time period probably going back to the mid 70s. It's not comprehensive history, which it can NEVER be. There's always going to be a story or a viewpoint that's as true as anything else, which has never been heard. Who's to say it couldn't be? There is no master narrative of graffiti, just the myths/legends that keep the same people getting paid over and over. No question that the StayHigh149 that was famous was the most up, and that appears to be Wayne.

 

I love how people look for one absolute truth out of a "movement" that never was organized... a bunch of kids, many of whom were hanging by a thread, poverty and/or drugs, and the ones who survived are expected to have total recollection of it all AND be unbiased? That's asking for too much. There is no single "correct" history.

 

 

the only absolute truth is this guy wayne made the name stay high famous. did this guy (in the youtube interview) write stay high 149 first? possibly. did wayne bite it from this guy? possibly. but not probably. it is recorded in subway art and in jack stewarts original dissertation that he lifted the stick figure from the saint tv show. also in jack stewart's dissertation stay high (wayne) is described as a tall slender black kid that was much older than his contemporaries (in his early 20s in 1971). how could a 20 year old mistake 2 JHS kids as being under cover cops. not to mention the countless writers from this era that acknowledge wayne as the original. im sure every name of every famous writer was written by some neighborhood kid local tagger before the person who made it famous wrote it...but that does not mean the famous one bit it from the local yocal. with the strong drug presence in the late 60s and early 70s in the bronx and harlem it is definitly possible someone else wrote stay high during this time. but if all this guy has is his word on you tube, no primary or secondary evidence to back it up (photos, credible interviews, documentation etc.), even understanding your "absolute truth" arguement it is still a hard pill to swallow.

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