HardyHarHar Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 So what is Bush up to? I've heard a theory that Bush and Cheney are real small government fanatics. They are in favor of corporate rights, not state rights and the recent blunders are actually an attempt by Bush and company to bankrupt the government. A constitutional apocalypse where the rich will be the chosen ones and the rest of us will have to fight to survive. If so, he's doing a pretty good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Among other things .... Its a plan that has been worked on since Clinton took office. You just catching on now that its too late for an easy fix ??? But when you boil the corprate facade off its down to rich people getting richer, a little class warfare to rid the rich of these damn pesky middle classers. A nice depression would be hell for the middle and lower classes but its a liquidation sale for the rich, rock bottom prices !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I was having a conversation with my stepdad today about this. It would be wonderful for the middle class to hate the government, if one were to try and reduce its size. The ironic part is the reliance upon federal government of the middle class. It's rediculous to think that there are such nefarious plans about that completely negate the importance of life, but I believe they are there. The largest problem is the perception that such ideas are merely conspiracy theories. It seems perfectly viable for those in favor of smaller government to enact policies that would outrage the general public at the federalized power. But like you guys are saying, it would only lead to a larger disparity between the rich and everyone else. The strength of this country lies soley in the population and power of the middle class, and as that begins to sink so does the power and perception of this country as we know it. One of the jobs I worked this summer was to create a database of executive management and board of directors for corporations headqaurtered in Houston. And one of the most interesting things was the cross indexing of people as Directors for Corporations whom they will or have had direct business dealings with. Albeit the SEC does not allow for any member of a board to have direct dealings with the company by which they are Director for, it is allowable to have business dealings with a subsidiary. And beyond that, Directors only serve for small periods of time. It is completely realistic, and in fact I found one case where, that a person could become a corporate director, broker a deal for their respective company with the company they are a director for, and then step down as director so that they can have "legitimate" business dealings between both companies. I say all this to show that there are those soley interested in increasing the wealth of the rich. The fact that there are so few people on these boards who reflect the cross section of people providing revenue to these corporations and to the economy in general is astounding. anywho, corporations are the new nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 i hope im reading this right.... but bush and cheney are NOT, i repeat NOT in favor of small government. in any way shape or form. the left socialist type liberals should be praising Bush and Co for successfully spending MORE than any other president in history, even adjusted for inflation. but they simply think they arent spending enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyHarHar Posted July 19, 2006 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 AOD, it takes a little mental gymnastics. I was confused too when it was put to me. The theory goes that Bush is trying to drive the federal government into the ground by spending money on useless projects. Once all the money's gone to Halliburton, NASA, and the Air Force, there will be nothing left to pay IRS auditors, welfare offices, or public transportation. So, the theory says, spending all this money now is a way to bankrupt the government so there will be no spending in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 It's not even that they are spending so much or creating so many federal jobs. Like you said, mental gymnastics. If you can create a sense of repugnance towards the feds within the society itself, eg katrina, domestic policy, wiretapping, foreign policy, than you would be in a more apt position to garner support for limiting the power and funds of the federal government in general. It is not only a combination of fiscal policy but of their actions as an administration in general that would lead to a theory like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 na,bush has outspent everyone, INCLUDING social programs. look at some numbers. this is a hell of theory here guys, but i dont buy into it. i can only wish it is true... that they are trying to overspend, to outrage the public, to bring back a smaller government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyHarHar Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 It is a hell of a theory. I like this one a bit better: George Bush is in the early stages of alzheimers. He's completely aloof. Reagan allegedly had alzheimers in the later years of his office, and that was around the time that the Iran Contra happened supposedly, according to him, without his knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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