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yo dawood...sorry for the unarticulation these lilttle spurts of my coworkers living the office only leaves a small amount of time for comments...anyhow iraq did have and does have a diverse mixture of people....this guy makes it sound immpossible....and even if they did come, thats what homies are for......like if ameriKKKa went to war only the europeans would fight...anyhow my point is al-queda is working for the elite......and its started to sound like these london guys may not of been aware of who they were working for...but now the real question is who is 12oz working for....like a orphaned child trying to clutch at the feet of its father....12oz is pushing the propaganda of its oppressor in order to fit the role of conformity...oh shit here comes the boss

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25,000 shoot thats being nice, Ive heard estimates of 96,000 anyway i know where the 25,000 figure came in and of that an estimated 35% was at the hands of americans during the inital invasion of Iraq (10% to insurgent attacks from that poing till may). So now we got all these innocent folks with a two day warning that they are bout to get smashed on, trying to figure out something to do. Only thing is borders are being closed and so if your are a foriegner there your pretty much stuck. So what happens you die. lets just say your from syria. Your bro finds out that you got killed, while you were visiting fam, and some more of your fam dies. Guess your syrian brother should just lean back and watch Amerikkka make up lies about WMDs and rationlize the death of his bro. That sounds like some real pussy shit to me. and here i thought graffitti was about being down for your, as well as the fam. Doing what had to be done taking chances and making sacrifices in order to crush, or at least live somewhat independent of the system that uses all types of fucked up lies to prop it self up. Oh wait I forgot im on a site that is out to push "Graff Cool Guyism" not destruction. But thats just really fucking gay. And then yall make stupid ass jokes about flying planes into people and shit. I mean are you really bummed out and if so how do you make jokes about people dying or killing people. "Stop Jihad time" come on yall what do you think an innocent Iraqi (yes they do exist) would think if they read that shit. Especcialy if there mom just died from a car bomb. . I guess its good that America is to busy fighting terrorists to eliminate graffitti completely cause then the 12oz "Vets" couldnt go walking on the fence.....

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The current estimates are that about 50 people lost their lives in the bombings. People are understandably upset and shocked. Muslims sadly know this feeling all too well. Did we not see the attacks on Kabul and Kandahar? Did we not see the carpet bombing of Falluja? Did we not feel the destruction of Jenin? We feel the pain of death and destruction more than most do. Our exposure to this has been so great that we have become desensitised to more deaths in the Muslim world.

 

# The outsourcing of torture to dictatorships by western governments in the name of security.

 

 

# The western backing of tyrant regimes, like that of Mubarak, Musharraf or Karimov that oppress our people and led to thousands of deaths.

 

 

# The pillaging of our resources, the crippling debt interest payments and the global corporate capitalist machine that has contributed to the poverty and deaths of millions.

 

 

# The illegal and unjust detentions without trial and mass arrests we have seen in the UK over the past 2 years.

 

Had Muslim people inflicted this much evil and damage on the western world over the past 80 years it is inconceivable that the west's response would have been so restrained. That is not justifying an act Islam forbids, but it is retaining a sense of perspective in relation to these recent deaths.

 

An Iraqi humanitarian organization is reporting that 128,000 Iraqis have been killed since the U.S. invasion began in March 2003. raqiyun humanitarian organization in Baghdad, Dr. Hatim al-'Alwani, said that the toll includes everyone who has been killed since that time, adding that 55 percent of those killed have been women and children aged 12 and under.

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Why are you so mad at America? Why don't you get your buddies together and erradicate the assholes that are killing your innocents within your own country.

 

The US is trying to help you set up your own government, and you've got a bunch of pricks sending cowards with bombs. You're acting like we want to be in this war.

 

Fuck that I'd rather let you guys handle your own problems on your own....but no now we've got to deal with extremeists too..

 

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Fuck this war

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Originally posted by smooth talker@Jul 20 2005, 12:36 PM

yo dawood...sorry for the unarticulation these lilttle spurts of my coworkers living the office only leaves a small amount of time for comments...anyhow iraq did have and does have a diverse mixture of people....this guy makes it sound immpossible....and even if they did come, thats what homies are for......like if ameriKKKa went to war only the europeans would fight...anyhow my point is al-queda is working for the elite......and its started to sound like these london guys may not of been aware of who they were working for...but now the real question is who is 12oz working for....like a orphaned child trying to clutch at the feet of its father....12oz is pushing the propaganda of its oppressor in order to fit the role of conformity...oh shit here comes the boss

 

feelin that... but its even better when you think the cat next to you is going to get all patriotic on your ass and report you for looking at "unpatriotic" web sites while working.

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Ha Ha, thats funny, the patriot po-po, Like, your not wearing enough red white and blue today Mr Dawood....ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE COMMIE PINKOS, MEATHEAD??

 

GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM YOU TERRORIST!!

 

uh, I'm from Boston Mass.

 

WELL WHY THE HELL ARE YOU A MOOZLUM , BOY?

 

(ha, ha, I think I would laugh at him)

 

And had Allâh willed, He could have made you (all) one nation, but He sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. But you shall certainly be called to account for what you used to do. (An-Nahl 16:93)

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Hey Salafi, it's convenient you left out the percentage of the Iraqi civilians that died because of your "freedom fighters" targeting mosques, markets, and most recently a group of children. Ignorance is bliss.

 

The attacks on Kabul and Kandahar? I'm sure you can appreciate the Taliban's regime better then all of us, since you are a muslim woman. Not being able to work, reveal your face, go outside without a male escort, and being sold to other muslim men in exchange for land and grain must have been a real picnic. For some reason I don't think you ever lived in Afghanistan during the time the Taliban was in power. It must be nice to condemn our actions against their regime from a nice air conditioned room, enjoying all of the rights your given here in America, and never having to experience the hell it is top be treated like cattle. Please see statement above regarding ignorance.

 

You've gone from simply twisting the facts to blatantly lying with "the carpet bombing of Falluja." We told the inhabitants of that city weeks beforehand of the oncoming attack, so the only people left were foreign fighters waiting to die. Then, we went building to building, room to room, simply to avoid civilian casulties, even though it resulted in heavy losses of our troops. And the men like Zarqawi, who are so willing to send others to die on his behalf, simply run off with his tail between his legs when death knocks on the door, and it's time to put his ideals to the test.

 

You called me disrespectful in another thread, and I very well may be. But you continually try to explain away, and by doing so trivialize the deaths of countless people. In the case of the Iraqi civilians you even try to use their deaths as a tool against my government, even though the insurgents are the ones targeting them. That is beyond disrespectful.

 

Have fun in fantasy land, kids.

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Originally posted by Dawood@Jul 21 2005, 01:41 AM

Ha Ha, thats funny, the patriot po-po, Like, your not wearing enough red white and blue today Mr Dawood....ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE COMMIE PINKOS, MEATHEAD??

 

GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM YOU TERRORIST!!

 

uh, I'm from Boston Mass.

 

WELL WHY THE HELL ARE YOU A MOOZLUM , BOY?

 

(ha, ha, I think I would laugh at him)

 

And had Allâh willed, He could have made you (all) one nation, but He sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. But you shall certainly be called to account for what you used to do. (An-Nahl 16:93)

LOL same here ahkee

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all right so this shit gots me fucked up...pretty much a great example of how when ever you start talking bout the QUEDA....iraq gets brought up....really these are two seperate entities...yet almost with out faliure always swim in the same conversational pools...now similarites are obvious but very superfical...other than region of the world the QUEDA, a very small religous group, has nothing to do with IRAQ, a country of its own filled with millions of people land of great riches....now some QUEDA probably chill in IRAQ but thats just way to convienent for this administration...specially after leaks of 8,000 QUEDA troops being flown out of Afghanastan under the guise of a pakistani rescue, by USA helicoptors(yes, this is documented in many different ways). So how do we always end up in the same place...Ill tell you why...The elites media megaphones has succesfully manipulated our brains into being hateful people that truely dont care about people dying and other atrocities being done unless its in our own backyard....Good thing they had us all sign our draft papers...this ensures they can always just take us out of our back yard to the battle field.....dont forget about the tens of thousands of would be graffitti writers that died in vietnam..and for what....to fight terror and instill democracy...give it up you fucking cowards....

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Al Queda and Iraq WERE seperate entitys. Now it is used as a place for Al Queda to launch attacks on US forces, but more often civilians.

 

"specially after leaks of 8,000 QUEDA troops being flown out of Afghanastan under the guise of a pakistani rescue, by USA helicoptors(yes, this is documented in many different ways). "

 

Whoa dude, your blowing my mind!!! 8,000 troops, that's alot! Well, since the CH-47 is the main helicopter used for personnel transport, that seats roughly 30, that means 267 choppers were used! That's a pretty big operation to keep under wraps, no wonder geniuses like you got the big picture!((sarcasm))

 

Now, to shoot your theory to shit, let me explain the "Cell" system that AQ has embraced. Al Queda is divvied up in many different groups, each one capable of working without eachother and without leadership. That means a massive number of Al Queda "troops" (this is in quotations because I wouldn't consider a poorly trained, misguided group of young men actual soldiers) could never be rounded up. Not to mention that 8,000 is a absurd number to have in Afghanistan alone. But please, let us all in on your well documented sources. I'd love to know.

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