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  1. I'm not sure if we're disagreeing here or whatever but just to clarify what i was saying:

     

    Im too lazy to find the actual "latest" number on statistics, but a lot of cancers, diabetes, heart attacks, and various diseases diet related.

     

    agreed. and yes. thank you for clarification.

     

     

    not sure if this is true...........but a plant based (hopefully organic) diet with very limited fat can reverse and/or prevent most diet related diseases.

     

     

    that includes no/limited oils.

  2. there wont be a farmers market because they arent going to want to pay the fees...

    i cant be responsible for what i eat if the government tells me i cant eat it cuz it's dirty...

     

     

    i get some items from a locally, organic, hand made facility near my house. they grow cabbage and make things like cultured kim chee for example. they are an extremely small operation. sometimes they dont even go to the farmers market because they ran out of product for that week. they use a fermentation process instead of using vinegars. their facility is so clean, and so well organized - they pass with flying colors with the health department AND they get a strict third party auditor to come in to see how they are doing food safety wise. they pay a lot of money for that on top of their overhead costs...not to mention farming costs! they are certified organic by the government (which is realllllllllllly expensive too). with this bill passing, they will have to potentially ditch the fermentation process (because it creates a bacteria - the same that is found in yogurt but stronger, which by the way, is extremely good for you) AND pay way more fees then they think they can.

     

     

    THAT SUCKS. thats going to happen to so many small vendors/farmers. they cant compete with the big industrial guys (who are filthy and definitely need more food safety regulations). but for someone like me i sure as hell aint buying ANYTHING from safeway. its either sprayed with chemicals (produce) or genetically modified (pre packaged items)...And I can tell you its about 90% of their products. I'd rather go to a local producer and pay them.

  3. "Kevin?" C'mon son. "Manufacture" is an industry term for the production of things for sale. Im not manufacturing lemons in my back yard. Im growing them. And they need to pass government regulated food safety before obamacare goes into effect. Diet related death and smoking accounts for 20% of all deaths in america (biggest cause of death in america, second only to smoking. All other causes of death combined dont even come close). Also obesity rate is 33%.

     

    heart attack, cancer (excluding lung), and diabetes all kill more americans then tobacco use.

     

    people need to eat better. not from gigantic dirty farms that genetically alter their produce to be cheaper, chemical resistant and spliced with other allergens or inorganic substances.

     

    for example: monsanto seed for a certain tomato plant included a fish gene. a lot of people are allergic to fish...anaphylactic shock is not a healthy thing...

  4. You need to quit your job at Whole Foods.

    They feed you just as much bullshit as the news does.

     

    whole foods hasnt said anything about this yo. at least not to me yet... whole foods is definitely anti gmo and big farms thats for sure, but i read this bill and realize our food is going to dramatically change, for the worse. its hard to understand if you dont know the agro business, or food retail industry at the present.

     

    it talks a lot about regulating imported food. Ok great, but there are a lot of weird things about imported foods. for example, you cant get raw cheese from another country unless it has been aged for 9 months. well i can guarantee you that the affineur's from italy who make regulated, region and name ontrolled, certified organic parmigiano reggiano vendor (who has been in the family buisness for hundreds of years) has extremely healthly/certified cows compared to if an industrial farm here who provide us with fresh raw cheese.

     

    that's just an example. the vendors from other countries aren't going to want to pay extra fees and annual dollars to get audited more than they already do (and they do....except for maybe, china). a bottle of wine from france could go up from $15 to $35 just to cover the costs - especially if the grapes are from a small farm.

     

     

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  5. manufacturing produce = grow per the government's terms.

     

    among that it will criminalize seed saving - so you will HAVE to buy new seeds every time to grow...and Monsanto has a monopoly in the US for seeds - 99% of theirs are GMO as well because they want to patten them all. I personal try to stay away from as many GMO products that I can.

     

    ‘(3) CONTENT- The proposed rulemaking under paragraph (1) shall-- [<-Struck out]

    ‘(A) include, with respect to growing, harvesting, sorting, and storage operations, minimum standards related to soil amendments, hygiene, packaging, temperature controls, animal encroachment, and water; and [<-Struck out]

    ‘( B ) consider hazards that occur naturally, may be unintentionally introduced, or may be intentionally introduced, including by acts of terrorism. [<-Struck out] ftw?

     

    "harvesting"

  6. Nobodie's going to arrest you for growing your own tomatoes.

    You need to reconsider whatever source you got that info from.

     

    STRAIGHT FROM THE BILL MOTHER FUCKER

     

    The HHS will require registration and payment of a fee by any "person (excluding farms and restaurants) who manufactures, processes, packs, distributes, receives, holds, or imports an article of food. Individuals who partake in food handling without official registration are subject to a maximum 10 year prison sentence."

     

     

    an 'article of food' includes tomatoes....

  7. Move to Canada, problem solved.

     

    we apparently own that too...

     

    http://www.percyschmeiser.com/

     

    "For 40 years, Percy Schmeiser has grown canola on his farm near Bruno, Sask., about 80 km east of Saskatoon, usually sowing each crop of the oil-rich plants with seeds saved from the previous harvest. And he has never, says Schmeiser, purchased seed from the St. Louis, Mo.-based agricultural and biotechnology giant Monsanto Co. Even so, he says that more than 320 hectares of his land is now "contaminated" by Monsanto's herbicide-resistant Roundup Ready canola, a man made variety produced by a controversial process known as genetic engineering. And, like hundreds of other North American farmer, Schmeiser has felt the sting of Monsanto's long legal arm: last August the company took the 68-year-old farmer to court, claiming he illegally planted the firm's canola without paying a $37-per-hectare fee for the privilege. Unlike scores of similarly accused North American farmers who have reached out-of-court settlements with Monsanto, Schmeiser fought back. He claims Monsanto investigators trespassed on his land -- and that company seed could easily have blown on to his soil from passing canola-laden trucks. "I never put those plants on my land," says Schmeiser. "The question is, where do Monsanto's rights end and mine begin?"

     

     

     

    I love this poor poor man....

     

    edit, he had to pay thousands of dollars to Monsanto....

  8. i just want to be able to grow food on my own property and eat it without the government getting all up in my business.

     

    organic or all natural small farms is the way to go...smart farmers and gardeners KNOW how to keep it safe and legit. the government just wants us to use GMO seed so they can get more $$$

     

    they dont give two shits about our health or what we eat. they care about how big their wallets are.

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  9. So this could easily go into the crossfire thread, but I know a lot of you would be interested in knowing a bit more about this particular bill that just about to go to the senate.

     

     

    It's s.510 aka The Food Safety Moderization Act aka The government will "regulate any food grown, sold, bought, or traded in the USA". What that means: YOU CAN'T GROW SHIT IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD OR YOU CAN GET ARRESTED AND/OR FINED!!!!!!!!!!! What bullshit is that???

     

    "This new bill will place a great deal of authority over farmers, and even freelance gardeners simply growing fruits and vegetables in their own backyards. Practices such as saving seeds for use the next year would be prohibited and doing so could result in a federal offense, punishable by fines and prison time. Some speculate that the practice of saving seeds is being banned in order to give seed companies, such as Monsanto, a monopoly over the seed industry."

     

     

    You know heirloom tomatoes? Those would be illegal. And if you don't know about Monsanto, look into it - completely evil. They basically genetically modify seeds, patten them, then sue your ass if they find it on your land, even small farmers. Most higher up's from Monsanto end up on the senate, donate money to congressmen, and end up being apart of the FDA or USDA. Not to mention their food is unsafe and can resist most chemicals - which isn't natural.

     

     

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    Any thoughts about this? Honestly, I want the government out of my life as much as possibly, and definitely not into my food...

     

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDA_Food_Safety_Modernization_Act

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