don't associate hipsters and scene kids with punks and ..thanks but yea uh I think there are people who are in it for a minute and don't know the history about style and thats why graff is going down the tubes I know dudes who listen to straight up reggae and are dope at graff. Its not about the music you listen to, it's about the work and dedication, and time you put in like anything else, thats just my 2 cents.